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[jono]

not destroyed along with the worlds satanic empire at armageddon. (thats what i am taking from it anyway. this isnt abt heaven, at least i dont think this is what TS is implying. if he isnt talking about heaven, then it also is in line with biblical teaching.)

how many will be 'saved' will be dependant on how many 'want' to be saved is what he is getting at.

Yes, but if you look at it in the right context:

Last but not least: Jesus compared the end of the world with the days of Noah, and the days of Lot—in both cases, the vast majority rejected the solemn warnings, and were destroyed.  Jesus never taught that the whole world would be converted and saved, at the end of time.  That is a pleasing fable, designed to keep people sound asleep until it is too late: "... the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them ... and they shall not escape." (1 Thessalonians 5:2,3).

It's pretty clear it implies spiritual salvation.  :icon_e_wink:

Also, I think there is some confusion here... There are some different interpretations on when the actual events of Armageddon will take place: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon).

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

not destroyed along with the worlds satanic empire at armageddon. (thats what i am taking from it anyway. this isnt abt heaven, at least i dont think this is what TS is implying. if he isnt talking about heaven, then it also is in line with biblical teaching.)

how many will be 'saved' will be dependant on how many 'want' to be saved is what he is getting at.

Yes, but if you look at it in the right context:

Last but not least: Jesus compared the end of the world with the days of Noah, and the days of Lot—in both cases, the vast majority rejected the solemn warnings, and were destroyed.  Jesus never taught that the whole world would be converted and saved, at the end of time.  That is a pleasing fable, designed to keep people sound asleep until it is too late: "... the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them ... and they shall not escape." (1 Thessalonians 5:2,3).

It's pretty clear it implies spiritual salvation.  :icon_e_wink:

Also, I think there is some confusion here... There are some different interpretations on when the actual events of Armageddon will take place: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon).

agree with you. and i believe that spiritual will equate to physical salvation.

re: armageddon. yes several interpretations. i prefer to use the bible to prove and disprove them. i appreciate you and i have difference here. also, when feeling, better will answer your PM.

:smiley_abuv: you Jono! 

[jono]

agree with you. and i believe that spiritual will equate to physical salvation.

re: armageddon. yes several interpretations. i prefer to use the bible to prove and disprove them. i appreciate you and i have difference here. also, when feeling, better will answer your PM.

:smiley_abuv: you Jono!

I would never proclaim to know the exact meaning of Revelations and the eschatology of the bible.. This is some really heavy stuff which scholars have been trying to figure out for over 2000 years..

:computer-losy-smiley:

But yes, I also think there are some more reasonable interpretations than others...  :icon_e_wink:

What, you are sick?? Sorry to hear that... Hope you'll get well soon!  :icon_e_smile:

[MJonmind]

Aussie, I hope you're feeling better soon!

Iamamjbeliever

The world is doomed anyway

That's what Katherine said when Pierce Morgan was interviewing MJ's brothers and her.

[diggyon]

The world is doomed anyway

I guess this is right. Sometimes I feel that all our trying to save humanity might be in vain because the Antichrist is coming anyway. It's mentioned in the holy books. This is the earth's fate. We cannot change it. So hoping to be saved from the evil of the Antichrist until the real Christ comes back is the only thing we can do.