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[Stipe]

Hi guys and gals,
I couldn't find the link to this subject today but I know there is one so forgive me for writing it here:
We all know Michael was so very thin in TII, too thin. When he appeared on stage the guy whom Michael hugged said "He was ripped- huge back muscles like a Premiership footballer"
The Michael we see on TII certainly was not ripped(like a body builder full of muscle), quite the opposite!
Here's the interview if you didn't see it, this is Dermot talking about introducing Michael onto stage that day, it was pre-June 09 so I'm sure the mood would have been more somber if it were after. Oh he calls Michael Jakko but Dermot is a lovely guy, I'm sure he didn't know it would have offended Michael to say that word I'm
Certain:

Dermot O'leary talks about Michael Jackson

Dermot O'Leary talks about Michael Jackson - YouTube

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[Andrea]

I can't watch the video right now because I'm at work - will watch later.

About Michael's thinness in TII/O2.  My own little theory on that is MJ lost the weight for his 'role', for his art,  much like how actors will lose weight for a movie role.  I do believe a huge aspect of this hoax is a movie and Michael wanted to appear sickly or too thin or whatever so that when he 'died' people would say "well look at how thin he was - he couldn't have been healthy".  I honestly don't think it would take much for him to lose the weight, do the O2 appearance, film the scenes for TII, then gain back what he lost.  Just a theory I've had for a while.

[Stipe]

Hi Andrea,
That's certainly a good point, he would want to look ill if he was planning a sudden death hoax, but my point is- the O2 guy was NOT skinny he was really big shoulders and muscly. I was doubtful it was Michael and I know a lot of fans can't agree- he just didn't act like the Michael we know and love!
The truth will prevail :)
xx

[Andrea]

Ya I see what you're saying Stipe.  I think the jacket he was wearing contributed to the big-shoulder look but I thought he looked quite thin there.  I personally think O2 Michael is real Michael acting like a fake Michael (I and others have this before) but who knows really.  I believe he was creating his own illusion as he always has done and is still doing.

And agreed, the truth will prevail. ;-)

[Stipe]

Hi Hun
Dermot says when Michael hugged him he 'had huge back muscles, was ripped and not what he expected at all' which kind of added to my belief with Michael being so frail looking around that time.
Heard that Michael was gonna do the O2 but he slipped getting off the bus so they had to rush an impersonator in??!! The arrogant kind of nod towards the crowd- Michael was always the opposite of arrogant so again it added to my belief. All I can say is, if it was our Michael......he sure was acting different!
L.O.V.E. xx

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

@Stipe..... concerning O2 speech, we all came to the conclusion that was Michael on stage but pretending not to be himself but an impersonator, I think he did that in the whole hoax, TII, etc... Although Michael is very thin he has a wide shoulders and fibrous muscles as the most of African-American men does. Concerning his skinny condition, we all heard Lou Ferrigno saying in his interview that Michael ate few, besides he fasted once a week, and everybody knows MJ likes to be very thin as he said he tried not to eat much sweets or dairy in order not to look round.   :moonwalk_:

[Stipe]

Hiya
Also  Michael asked if the telepromter was on, I've seen Michael do long speeches needing no TelePrompTer or notes......why would he ask for that when he said such few words? I'm
NOT disagreeing with you I'm just saying my thoughts out loud :)

I respect any beLIEvers point of few-after all we're a family x

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

@Stipe.....that's why Michael was pretending to be an impersonator, you have said it and almost agreeing wit me because Michael asked about the teleprompter when Michael never uses it before.   :moonwalk_:

[Andrea]

I think Michael wanted everything about the O2 announcement to be 'bizarre'.

[hesouttamylife]

And before he gave that salute he looked squarely to his right at someone with a stern appearance  on his face.  I only wish I knew who it was.  Like he was throwing dem bows and specifically sending that person a message, lol.

[Stipe]

Maybe-I'm totally open to this subject-on the fence about it but yeah, ere were some folk Michael clearly disliked-maybe it was them!
So most friends here do think it was our Michael?!
What do you think of Pearl Jnr? Did you get her DVD?

[bec]

i agree with andrea on this subject, as always.

i have no idea how to take pearl jr. she may be playing a designated role, similar to karen faye, or she may be a clueless independent. either way, her info is not accurate nor reliable, so much so i cannot disregard the possibility that it may be strategic.

[msgitm]

Pearl Jr. is full of herself.  Notice how she makes the viewers believe that Michael is giving all these clues to HER personally.  I think not.

[Tink]

Pearl Jr. is full of herself.  Notice how she makes the viewers believe that Michael is giving all these clues to HER personally.  I think not.

That, I agree with.

[Stipe]

I started off having total respect for Pearl Jnr, but as time went on I did notice although she gave credit to the beLIEvers yes she makes out there are hidden clues/messages specially for her.
Totally agree with you!
I do like the fact that she's not sucking up to the Jacksons though and is prepared to
ask them straight out questions.
I found Pseudocide very interesting, the bit about Jason Malachi.
Haven't read it all yet though