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Bec, i want to remind you that NONE of us here or anywhere in the world (apart from MJ of course) knows for sure what this hoax is about. 
No kidding. You're the one saying

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This hoax is absolutely not for entertainment purposes only 
when you have no idea if that is true or not, just like you said.

I've been saying for 4 years that entertainment is the best way to educate people. But everyone stops at the word "entertainment" and jumps on the flame wagon.

I believe the numerology is MJ's signature and something he does because it is important to HIM.
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Yes Snoopy and Everlasting, but ...... I've talked about this before - he can't go taking money, no matter what good a cause it is for, if it's given on the assumption he's dead, when he's not .......

unless, a) AEG are 'in on it' and have agreed to the 'storyline',

or b) MJ is staying dead forever, thus never to be exposed as a fraudster and his family (and anyone one else who's in on it) are prepared to keep quiet and live with it on their consciences for the rest of their lives,

or c) Katherine doesn't know he's alive and this trial is genuine (and everyone else meanwhile is prepared to keep quiet and live with it on their consciences for the rest of their lives),

or d) he's dead, and the hospital can be built in his memory with Murray in charge (that was the plan wasn't it?).

I have to agree that he can't take the trial proceeds to fund a hospital, because that would be fraud, though the proceeds from the entertainment part (movies, media, books etc) about the trial(s) and the hoax could be used for a fund eventually.
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It's all for L.O.V.E.

Guys take a look at these tweets:


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

Jackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery.

    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

    One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace.   
       
    5:05 PM - 15 Aug 13 · Details

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

There were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

Rowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)

Please read the rest of the tweets too there's a lot of info. there.
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What I think MJ is going to reveal is what everyone already knows (or ought to know) but doesn't want to deal with; that the news is not necessarily the truth. Simple as that. But instead of just talking about it, this time, he's going to show us, just by not being dead and having done it all as a perfectly legitimate, albeit complete, illusion. Having that point hammered home as illustrated so perfectly by a very much alive n well MJ, would send shock waves through our culture for, potentially, generations, and by doing so unarguably make the world a very much better place. He doesn't have to utter a word of explanation besides "that's a wrap", the circumstances (media circus re: death) speak for themselves. Once MJ reveals that he fooled the world, no one else will be able to fool us all so "effortlessly" again (seriously wounding TPTB in the process--the media is their propaganda vehicle). Forever more the seed of doubt will exist in the minds of the masses, remember when MJ faked his death? The news said that was true too... That's a very powerful legacy to bestow. Much better then Thriller.

Not that it matters very much what I think 
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

Jackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery.

    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

    One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace.   
       
    5:05 PM - 15 Aug 13 · Details

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

There were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

Rowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)

Please read the rest of the tweets too there's a lot of info. there.

Thank you very much for this,very intresting and very hoaxy indeed  :icon_eek:  :suspect:  ;) .
What aboot vitiligo,Elephant man and Munich part   :suspect: ??



Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said she saw him in so much pain, he would have cold sweats, grow pale, and couldn’t see or think clearly when this happened.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe said she would ask Jackson about his pain on a 1-10 scale, and he would get scared if his pain approached reached level 3.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said she wanted to make sure her friend was OK, but it wasn’t part of her job to accompany him to treatments outside of Klein’s office.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe began to break down as Chang asked her to describe her helping Jackson during his medical treatments.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

In the end, the keloids got “even thicker and lumpier.” Rowe said another surgery wasn't an option.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

The aim was to get one keloid to contend with on Jackson’s scalp, but it wasn’t successful, Rowe said. It fell apart in 1996 or 1997.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

That’s why Jackson had to have an implant placed under his scalp to expand the skin. That was done by Dr. Gordon Sasaki.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

After the treatments on Jackson, there wasn't enough skin for plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin to do a scalp reduction.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“It’s horribly painful,” Rowe said. She said in some treatments, you can hear the skin popping while the medication is administered.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Keloid tissue is very hard and dense and it requires regular injections to treat. She said an air gun is used for some of the treatments.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe said keloids are extremely painful. On Jackson, they started “mid-scalp and went back to the crown,” she said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

A couple photos were shown. None of the pictures Chang showed Rowe to demonstrate medical conditions were of Jackson.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She then explained that Jackson had keloids, a series of lumpy bumps on his skin that sometimes happen to burn victims.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe was also complementary of Hoefflin’s skills as a plastic surgeon when he first treated Jackson.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“He was almost phobic about needles,” Chang asked. “No, he was phobic,” Rowe replied.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang asked Rowe a few questions about Metzger. She told the jury Metzger was the best man at her and Jackson’s wedding in 1996.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

... from a rheumatologist (Dr. Allan Metzger) and a dermatologist, (Dr. Arnold Klein.) Both got extra training in their respective fields.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe explained to the jury why Jackson needed two doctors to treat his discoid lupus. She said it needed treatment ... (cont)
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“As busy as he was, he wasn’t the best person to think about and organize and keep track of his medical care,” Rowe said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Jackson found her honesty refreshing, Rowe said. She began to accompany him to medical appointments to put him at ease, watch out for him.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe noted she wasn’t a Michael Jackson fan when they met and she told him so. “I apparently have no filter, as my daughter says,” she said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe was she and Jackson talked about everything, and that he didn’t want to burden his mother with specifics about his conditions.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Background on the reference to the Elephant Man can be found here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe was asked whether Jackson compared himself to the Elephant Man. She said he did.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang: “He felt disfigured?” Yes, Rowe replied. Chang asked if Jackson felt embarrassed. Rowe said he did feel embarrassed.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said any one of Jackson’s conditions would have been difficult for a person to deal with, but MJ had to deal with it in the public eye.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe, on her role of accompanying Jackson to procedures: “I didn’t want him to feel as hopeless as he felt and as helpless as he felt.”
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang then asked about the burns to Jackson’s scalp that occurred during the Pepsi commercial shoot.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Vitiligo was one of the reasons that Jackson sought frequent treatment from Dr. Klein, Rowe said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Jackson, in consultation with Dr. Klein, opted to de-pigment all of his skin, Rowe said.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said it became clear that Jackson’s vitiligo wasn’t going to go away at some point, and it caused him tremendous anxiety.

Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe said vitiligo was harder to treat in people with darker skin, and explained that the skin lightening can come and go.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Through photos, she explained to the jury what vitiligo, discoid lupus looked like and their effects.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Much of Rowe’s early testimony was explaining the medical conditions Jackson suffered from.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe started out being questioned by Deborah Chang, one of Katherine Jackson’s attorneys.


There something very odd about 4 and 6 july performances too,when he did History tour  :suspect: :suspect:.Why they spoke specifically about Munich ,july 1997  :suspect: ?? Cause there is a video or 2 with him, Debbie, and Prince ,and he looks perfectly fine to me.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxwOY5U680[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsvQJYRneM[/youtube]


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h
Rowe said she told Jackson and he was so excited, he ran onto the tarmac of the airport where they were filming “Ghost.”
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang then showed a photo of Jackson, in makeup for his short film “Ghost,” riding on the back of her Harley-Davidson motorcycle.

Debbie said that Mike compared himself with Elephant man and that felt embarrassed,because of his skin condition  :'(.“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.Now there is something that I don't understand  :suspect: .Michael was a VERY BEAUTIFUL man,instead he saw himself UGLY   :icon_e_confused:?? Acording to Debbie,because of Pepsi burn, Michael had keloids problems and during 1996-1997 all felled apart .Michael's video Ghost was filmed in 1996 and he looked fine,more than fine I have to say  :LolLolLolLol:  lol,during that time.Let's see how creative,beautiful ,palyful ,funny  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: and full of life Mike was then.He never changed ,he was the same Michael that we saw in Dangerous,Bad and Thriller era. :icon_cool: :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9om_4hOwM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqaL7WY9SkI[/youtube]

How convenient that now ,we have Debbie speak about Ghost and Michael's horrible situation during that time ,and 1 or 2 days before,someone leaks videos with him,from Making of Ghost, looking more than fine  :icon_geek: .
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Genevieve Jackson(Randy daughter) talks to Piers Morgan Paris Jackson's "Life is rough"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8jt9Ly--rk[/youtube]

Genevieve dear ,why are you laughing  :icon_question:  :suspect:  :icon_lol:  ?? With whom are you speaking exactly :icon_eek:  ?? Listen and watch everything that is around them  :suspect: ? Listen and watch and pay attention to WHAT exactly  :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:  :icon_lol:   ??
Well,Genevieve I will stay strong and positive ,that's for sure ,cause lately alot of very,very strange this are going on .....not to lol  :LolLolLolLol: !!!!!
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

Jackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery.

    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

    One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace.   
       
    5:05 PM - 15 Aug 13 · Details

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

There were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

Rowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)

Please read the rest of the tweets too there's a lot of info. there.

Thank you very much for this,very intresting and very hoaxy indeed  :icon_eek:  :suspect:  ;) .
What aboot vitiligo,Elephant man and Munich part   :suspect: ??



Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said she saw him in so much pain, he would have cold sweats, grow pale, and couldn’t see or think clearly when this happened.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe said she would ask Jackson about his pain on a 1-10 scale, and he would get scared if his pain approached reached level 3.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said she wanted to make sure her friend was OK, but it wasn’t part of her job to accompany him to treatments outside of Klein’s office.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe began to break down as Chang asked her to describe her helping Jackson during his medical treatments.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

In the end, the keloids got “even thicker and lumpier.” Rowe said another surgery wasn't an option.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

The aim was to get one keloid to contend with on Jackson’s scalp, but it wasn’t successful, Rowe said. It fell apart in 1996 or 1997.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

That’s why Jackson had to have an implant placed under his scalp to expand the skin. That was done by Dr. Gordon Sasaki.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

After the treatments on Jackson, there wasn't enough skin for plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin to do a scalp reduction.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“It’s horribly painful,” Rowe said. She said in some treatments, you can hear the skin popping while the medication is administered.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Keloid tissue is very hard and dense and it requires regular injections to treat. She said an air gun is used for some of the treatments.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe said keloids are extremely painful. On Jackson, they started “mid-scalp and went back to the crown,” she said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

A couple photos were shown. None of the pictures Chang showed Rowe to demonstrate medical conditions were of Jackson.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She then explained that Jackson had keloids, a series of lumpy bumps on his skin that sometimes happen to burn victims.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe was also complementary of Hoefflin’s skills as a plastic surgeon when he first treated Jackson.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“He was almost phobic about needles,” Chang asked. “No, he was phobic,” Rowe replied.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang asked Rowe a few questions about Metzger. She told the jury Metzger was the best man at her and Jackson’s wedding in 1996.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

... from a rheumatologist (Dr. Allan Metzger) and a dermatologist, (Dr. Arnold Klein.) Both got extra training in their respective fields.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe explained to the jury why Jackson needed two doctors to treat his discoid lupus. She said it needed treatment ... (cont)
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“As busy as he was, he wasn’t the best person to think about and organize and keep track of his medical care,” Rowe said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Jackson found her honesty refreshing, Rowe said. She began to accompany him to medical appointments to put him at ease, watch out for him.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe noted she wasn’t a Michael Jackson fan when they met and she told him so. “I apparently have no filter, as my daughter says,” she said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe was she and Jackson talked about everything, and that he didn’t want to burden his mother with specifics about his conditions.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Background on the reference to the Elephant Man can be found here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe was asked whether Jackson compared himself to the Elephant Man. She said he did.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang: “He felt disfigured?” Yes, Rowe replied. Chang asked if Jackson felt embarrassed. Rowe said he did feel embarrassed.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said any one of Jackson’s conditions would have been difficult for a person to deal with, but MJ had to deal with it in the public eye.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe, on her role of accompanying Jackson to procedures: “I didn’t want him to feel as hopeless as he felt and as helpless as he felt.”
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang then asked about the burns to Jackson’s scalp that occurred during the Pepsi commercial shoot.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Vitiligo was one of the reasons that Jackson sought frequent treatment from Dr. Klein, Rowe said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Jackson, in consultation with Dr. Klein, opted to de-pigment all of his skin, Rowe said.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

She said it became clear that Jackson’s vitiligo wasn’t going to go away at some point, and it caused him tremendous anxiety.

Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe said vitiligo was harder to treat in people with darker skin, and explained that the skin lightening can come and go.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Through photos, she explained to the jury what vitiligo, discoid lupus looked like and their effects.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Much of Rowe’s early testimony was explaining the medical conditions Jackson suffered from.
Expand
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Rowe started out being questioned by Deborah Chang, one of Katherine Jackson’s attorneys.


There something very odd about 4 and 6 july performances too,when he did History tour  :suspect: :suspect:.Why they spoke specifically about Munich ,july 1997  :suspect: ?? Cause there is a video or 2 with him, Debbie, and Prince ,and he looks perfectly fine to me.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxwOY5U680[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsvQJYRneM[/youtube]


Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h
Rowe said she told Jackson and he was so excited, he ran onto the tarmac of the airport where they were filming “Ghost.”
Expand

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 10h

Chang then showed a photo of Jackson, in makeup for his short film “Ghost,” riding on the back of her Harley-Davidson motorcycle.

Debbie said that Mike compared himself with Elephant man and that felt embarrassed,because of his skin condition  :'(.“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.Now there is something that I don't understand  :suspect: .Michael was a VERY BEAUTIFUL man,instead he saw himself UGLY   :icon_e_confused:?? Acording to Debbie,because of Pepsi burn, Michael had keloids problems and during 1996-1997 all felled apart .Michael's video Ghost was filmed in 1996 and he looked fine,more than fine I have to say  :LolLolLolLol:  lol,during that time.Let's see how creative,beautiful ,palyful ,funny  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: and full of life Mike was then.He never changed ,he was the same Michael that we saw in Dangerous,Bad and Thriller era. :icon_cool: :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9om_4hOwM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqaL7WY9SkI[/youtube]

How convenient that now ,we have Debbie speak about Ghost and Michael's horrible situation during that time ,and 1 or 2 days before,someone leaks videos with him,from Making of Ghost, looking more than fine  :icon_geek: .

ok am i the only one who sort of feels like she is egging it on? like he and ( it looks like security ) are ready to real it in and she wants to keep going?  :icon_e_confused:
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Bravo Bec! Not even gonna try and add to your comments.

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It is simple n completely plausible, thanks UYI, I think so anyway. Honestly, it's the only explanation that makes any sense at all. In the same way the latest hit movie spins off into all sorts of products; dolls, games, books, lunch boxes, t-shirts, the Jackson's wrote books to supplement MJ's project. What's wrong with that? You don't think going on a live set and sticking to a script n a character through an entire interview isn't work? Good lord, talk about the hot seat. That is indeed working for a living and anyone who thinks it's mooching off MJ ought to give it a try themselves and see how well they do. These are oscar worthy performances.

And honestly, we aren't going to disparage the Jackson Family here anymore. It's expressly against the rules, not to mention the mission statement of this website.

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Last Edit: August 17, 2013, 01:48:26 PM by sweetsunsetwithMJ
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

Jackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery.

    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3h

    One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace.   
       
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There were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.
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... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.
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Rowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)

Please read the rest of the tweets too there's a lot of info. there.

Thank you very much for this,very intresting and very hoaxy indeed  :icon_eek:  :suspect:  ;) .
What aboot vitiligo,Elephant man and Munich part   :suspect: ??



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She said she saw him in so much pain, he would have cold sweats, grow pale, and couldn’t see or think clearly when this happened.
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Rowe said she would ask Jackson about his pain on a 1-10 scale, and he would get scared if his pain approached reached level 3.
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She said she wanted to make sure her friend was OK, but it wasn’t part of her job to accompany him to treatments outside of Klein’s office.
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Rowe began to break down as Chang asked her to describe her helping Jackson during his medical treatments.
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In the end, the keloids got “even thicker and lumpier.” Rowe said another surgery wasn't an option.
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The aim was to get one keloid to contend with on Jackson’s scalp, but it wasn’t successful, Rowe said. It fell apart in 1996 or 1997.
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That’s why Jackson had to have an implant placed under his scalp to expand the skin. That was done by Dr. Gordon Sasaki.
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After the treatments on Jackson, there wasn't enough skin for plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin to do a scalp reduction.
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“It’s horribly painful,” Rowe said. She said in some treatments, you can hear the skin popping while the medication is administered.
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Keloid tissue is very hard and dense and it requires regular injections to treat. She said an air gun is used for some of the treatments.
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Rowe said keloids are extremely painful. On Jackson, they started “mid-scalp and went back to the crown,” she said.
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A couple photos were shown. None of the pictures Chang showed Rowe to demonstrate medical conditions were of Jackson.
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She then explained that Jackson had keloids, a series of lumpy bumps on his skin that sometimes happen to burn victims.
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Rowe was also complementary of Hoefflin’s skills as a plastic surgeon when he first treated Jackson.
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“He was almost phobic about needles,” Chang asked. “No, he was phobic,” Rowe replied.
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Chang asked Rowe a few questions about Metzger. She told the jury Metzger was the best man at her and Jackson’s wedding in 1996.
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... from a rheumatologist (Dr. Allan Metzger) and a dermatologist, (Dr. Arnold Klein.) Both got extra training in their respective fields.
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Rowe explained to the jury why Jackson needed two doctors to treat his discoid lupus. She said it needed treatment ... (cont)
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“As busy as he was, he wasn’t the best person to think about and organize and keep track of his medical care,” Rowe said.
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Jackson found her honesty refreshing, Rowe said. She began to accompany him to medical appointments to put him at ease, watch out for him.
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Rowe noted she wasn’t a Michael Jackson fan when they met and she told him so. “I apparently have no filter, as my daughter says,” she said.
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Rowe was she and Jackson talked about everything, and that he didn’t want to burden his mother with specifics about his conditions.
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Rowe was asked whether Jackson compared himself to the Elephant Man. She said he did.
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“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.
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Chang: “He felt disfigured?” Yes, Rowe replied. Chang asked if Jackson felt embarrassed. Rowe said he did feel embarrassed.
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She said any one of Jackson’s conditions would have been difficult for a person to deal with, but MJ had to deal with it in the public eye.
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Rowe, on her role of accompanying Jackson to procedures: “I didn’t want him to feel as hopeless as he felt and as helpless as he felt.”
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Chang then asked about the burns to Jackson’s scalp that occurred during the Pepsi commercial shoot.
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Vitiligo was one of the reasons that Jackson sought frequent treatment from Dr. Klein, Rowe said.
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Jackson, in consultation with Dr. Klein, opted to de-pigment all of his skin, Rowe said.
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She said it became clear that Jackson’s vitiligo wasn’t going to go away at some point, and it caused him tremendous anxiety.

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Rowe said vitiligo was harder to treat in people with darker skin, and explained that the skin lightening can come and go.
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Through photos, she explained to the jury what vitiligo, discoid lupus looked like and their effects.
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Much of Rowe’s early testimony was explaining the medical conditions Jackson suffered from.
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Rowe started out being questioned by Deborah Chang, one of Katherine Jackson’s attorneys.


There something very odd about 4 and 6 july performances too,when he did History tour  :suspect: :suspect:.Why they spoke specifically about Munich ,july 1997  :suspect: ?? Cause there is a video or 2 with him, Debbie, and Prince ,and he looks perfectly fine to me.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxwOY5U680[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsvQJYRneM[/youtube]


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Rowe said she told Jackson and he was so excited, he ran onto the tarmac of the airport where they were filming “Ghost.”
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Chang then showed a photo of Jackson, in makeup for his short film “Ghost,” riding on the back of her Harley-Davidson motorcycle.

Debbie said that Mike compared himself with Elephant man and that felt embarrassed,because of his skin condition  :'(.“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.Now there is something that I don't understand  :suspect: .Michael was a VERY BEAUTIFUL man,instead he saw himself UGLY   :icon_e_confused:?? Acording to Debbie,because of Pepsi burn, Michael had keloids problems and during 1996-1997 all felled apart .Michael's video Ghost was filmed in 1996 and he looked fine,more than fine I have to say  :LolLolLolLol:  lol,during that time.Let's see how creative,beautiful ,palyful ,funny  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: and full of life Mike was then.He never changed ,he was the same Michael that we saw in Dangerous,Bad and Thriller era. :icon_cool: :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9om_4hOwM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqaL7WY9SkI[/youtube]

How convenient that now ,we have Debbie speak about Ghost and Michael's horrible situation during that time ,and 1 or 2 days before,someone leaks videos with him,from Making of Ghost, looking more than fine  :icon_geek: .

ok am i the only one who sort of feels like she is egging it on? like he and ( it looks like security ) are ready to real it in and she wants to keep going?  :icon_e_confused:

What do you mean   :icon_question: ??
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Bec, but isn't "a very good reason" the base of this whole hoax? This hoax is absolutely not for entertainment purposes only and i do believe that MJ wants to make us and the whole world realize some things (not a "personal crusade" but a much larger thing such as how the music industry treats the artists, Illuminati connexion etc etc as i'm pretty much certain that MJ's not pulling this hoax out only for some selfish purposes) that are usually ignored by the general public. Exposing "a very good reason" after bam is imo what will get the attention of people all around the world (with the exception of some people such as our grandparents lol) and what will have a massive effect on how MJ will be seen (his true genius will have to be recognized, even though, i agree with you, haters still gonna hate). Without that reason, bam, and the hoax are somehow pointless and if there is a come-back, then MJ might have some serious problems as people will feel betrayed (especially fans) even though everything in the hoax was legal. But if MJ has a "good reason" then not only will he get the people's attention (as i believe we (believers) won't be the only ones to care) but also revealing his magnificent hoax and its purposes he'll be able to explain his not 100% moral/legal proceedings (and don't get me wrong, I do not believe there are many of such things in this hoax but while he may be clean with the law, there will always be people claiming that this or that shouldn't have been done etc). If you want to expose someone, you just cannot be 100% nice to that person, especially when it is part of a larger operation (we were talking about the FBI involvement, stings etc)... If MJ has some important people on his side, i believe that nothing is impossible. While Murray's trial had fake written all over it, this one has always been a lot different to me, much more serious (maybe bcs we don't have live video coverage and can't see all the toys in the room lol). The fact that Katherine is directly involved bothers me a lot bcs somehow i do not believe that MJ would like his mum to be in court everyday and listen to horrible things being said about his son, whether he's dead or not, for hoax/entertainment purposes only... So imo he has to have some very good reasons to even let this trial begin. So i think that there has to be a real purpose for this trial (that may be half fake but not completely) and i have no real idea what this purpose is but i believe it will be part of the "very good reason" for this hoax and that it will be revealed after bam.
That being said, I have no real clue what's going on so i just wait...  :smiley-vault-misc-150:  :LolLolLolLol:


Wrongful Death

attitude negligent

attitude neglect

 intentional attitude


All of this supposedly do Murray




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You're welcome Applehead. I had not seen the two making of ghost videos you posted. They were just released recently? Yes, he does look very healthy.

With all of the witnesses that have testified so far in this trial, I found myself having to sift through the tweets to figure out the truth from the lies.  Not all of the witnesses are being truthful, and the ones who are being truthful, are not telling the whole truth.......... the truth seems to be hidden very deep and it is getting to be very hard to get to.
 
One theme that seems to be predominant and recurring throughout this trial, from the very beginning,  is the total and complete vindication of Michael Jackson from everything that the Media and tabloid ASSociates have wrongfully accused him of .................
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Well when does that vindication part start then? Cuz all I hear is drugs drugs drugs n more drugs.
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@applehead .... the hanging around at the window ...... showing the baby to the fans ect.   thought this was someone who didn't like the attention. :icon_e_confused:  a little confusinging.  maybe i am reading it wrong.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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@applehead .... the hanging around at the window ...... showing the baby to the fans ect.   thought this was someone who didn't like the attention. :icon_e_confused:  a little confusinging.  maybe i am reading it wrong.

OH now I understand  ;) ,thank you  :bearhug: .
Well you know ,when it comes to MJ ,everything is blurred.........that's how a mind of a GENIUs works !!!!
Regarding the confusion, I was confused at first as well, but now ......nope  :icon_geek: .Michael LIVES for ATTENTION and for CONTROVERSY ,that's for 100 % certain now .....at least for me .Like Genevieve told Pierce Morgan yesterday..........LISTEN and WATCH everything that is around you,PAY ATTENTION ,especially at that Circus that is called Trial lol  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: !!!!!
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