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Bec, i want to remind you that NONE of us here or anywhere in the world (apart from MJ of course) knows for sure what this hoax is about.
This hoax is absolutely not for entertainment purposes only
Yes Snoopy and Everlasting, but ...... I've talked about this before - he can't go taking money, no matter what good a cause it is for, if it's given on the assumption he's dead, when he's not .......unless, a) AEG are 'in on it' and have agreed to the 'storyline',or b) MJ is staying dead forever, thus never to be exposed as a fraudster and his family (and anyone one else who's in on it) are prepared to keep quiet and live with it on their consciences for the rest of their lives,or c) Katherine doesn't know he's alive and this trial is genuine (and everyone else meanwhile is prepared to keep quiet and live with it on their consciences for the rest of their lives),or d) he's dead, and the hospital can be built in his memory with Murray in charge (that was the plan wasn't it?).
Guys take a look at these tweets:Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hJackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery. Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3h One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace. 5:05 PM - 15 Aug 13 · DetailsAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hThere were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3h... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hRowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)Please read the rest of the tweets too there's a lot of info. there.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginGuys take a look at these tweets:Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hJackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery. Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3h One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace. 5:05 PM - 15 Aug 13 · DetailsAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hThere were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3h... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hRowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)Please read the rest of the tweets too there's a lot of info. there.Thank you very much for this,very intresting and very hoaxy indeed :icon_eek: :suspect: .What aboot vitiligo,Elephant man and Munich part :suspect: ??Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said she saw him in so much pain, he would have cold sweats, grow pale, and couldn’t see or think clearly when this happened.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said she would ask Jackson about his pain on a 1-10 scale, and he would get scared if his pain approached reached level 3.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said she wanted to make sure her friend was OK, but it wasn’t part of her job to accompany him to treatments outside of Klein’s office.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe began to break down as Chang asked her to describe her helping Jackson during his medical treatments.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hIn the end, the keloids got “even thicker and lumpier.” Rowe said another surgery wasn't an option.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hThe aim was to get one keloid to contend with on Jackson’s scalp, but it wasn’t successful, Rowe said. It fell apart in 1996 or 1997.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hThat’s why Jackson had to have an implant placed under his scalp to expand the skin. That was done by Dr. Gordon Sasaki.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hAfter the treatments on Jackson, there wasn't enough skin for plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin to do a scalp reduction.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“It’s horribly painful,” Rowe said. She said in some treatments, you can hear the skin popping while the medication is administered.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hKeloid tissue is very hard and dense and it requires regular injections to treat. She said an air gun is used for some of the treatments.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said keloids are extremely painful. On Jackson, they started “mid-scalp and went back to the crown,” she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hA couple photos were shown. None of the pictures Chang showed Rowe to demonstrate medical conditions were of Jackson.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe then explained that Jackson had keloids, a series of lumpy bumps on his skin that sometimes happen to burn victims.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe was also complementary of Hoefflin’s skills as a plastic surgeon when he first treated Jackson.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“He was almost phobic about needles,” Chang asked. “No, he was phobic,” Rowe replied.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang asked Rowe a few questions about Metzger. She told the jury Metzger was the best man at her and Jackson’s wedding in 1996.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h... from a rheumatologist (Dr. Allan Metzger) and a dermatologist, (Dr. Arnold Klein.) Both got extra training in their respective fields.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe explained to the jury why Jackson needed two doctors to treat his discoid lupus. She said it needed treatment ... (cont)ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“As busy as he was, he wasn’t the best person to think about and organize and keep track of his medical care,” Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hJackson found her honesty refreshing, Rowe said. She began to accompany him to medical appointments to put him at ease, watch out for him.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe noted she wasn’t a Michael Jackson fan when they met and she told him so. “I apparently have no filter, as my daughter says,” she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe was she and Jackson talked about everything, and that he didn’t want to burden his mother with specifics about his conditions.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hBackground on the reference to the Elephant Man can be found here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login …ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe was asked whether Jackson compared himself to the Elephant Man. She said he did.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang: “He felt disfigured?” Yes, Rowe replied. Chang asked if Jackson felt embarrassed. Rowe said he did feel embarrassed.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said any one of Jackson’s conditions would have been difficult for a person to deal with, but MJ had to deal with it in the public eye.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe, on her role of accompanying Jackson to procedures: “I didn’t want him to feel as hopeless as he felt and as helpless as he felt.”ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang then asked about the burns to Jackson’s scalp that occurred during the Pepsi commercial shoot.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hVitiligo was one of the reasons that Jackson sought frequent treatment from Dr. Klein, Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hJackson, in consultation with Dr. Klein, opted to de-pigment all of his skin, Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said it became clear that Jackson’s vitiligo wasn’t going to go away at some point, and it caused him tremendous anxiety.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said vitiligo was harder to treat in people with darker skin, and explained that the skin lightening can come and go.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hThrough photos, she explained to the jury what vitiligo, discoid lupus looked like and their effects.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hMuch of Rowe’s early testimony was explaining the medical conditions Jackson suffered from.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe started out being questioned by Deborah Chang, one of Katherine Jackson’s attorneys.There something very odd about 4 and 6 july performances too,when he did History tour :suspect: :suspect:.Why they spoke specifically about Munich ,july 1997 :suspect: ?? Cause there is a video or 2 with him, Debbie, and Prince ,and he looks perfectly fine to me.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxwOY5U680[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsvQJYRneM[/youtube]Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said she told Jackson and he was so excited, he ran onto the tarmac of the airport where they were filming “Ghost.”ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang then showed a photo of Jackson, in makeup for his short film “Ghost,” riding on the back of her Harley-Davidson motorcycle.Debbie said that Mike compared himself with Elephant man and that felt embarrassed,because of his skin condition .“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.Now there is something that I don't understand :suspect: .Michael was a VERY BEAUTIFUL man,instead he saw himself UGLY :icon_e_confused:?? Acording to Debbie,because of Pepsi burn, Michael had keloids problems and during 1996-1997 all felled apart .Michael's video Ghost was filmed in 1996 and he looked fine,more than fine I have to say :LolLolLolLol: lol,during that time.Let's see how creative,beautiful ,palyful ,funny :icon_lol: :icon_lol: and full of life Mike was then.He never changed ,he was the same Michael that we saw in Dangerous,Bad and Thriller era. :icon_cool: :[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9om_4hOwM[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqaL7WY9SkI[/youtube]How convenient that now ,we have Debbie speak about Ghost and Michael's horrible situation during that time ,and 1 or 2 days before,someone leaks videos with him,from Making of Ghost, looking more than fine :icon_geek: .
Bravo Bec! Not even gonna try and add to your comments.
It is simple n completely plausible, thanks UYI, I think so anyway. Honestly, it's the only explanation that makes any sense at all. In the same way the latest hit movie spins off into all sorts of products; dolls, games, books, lunch boxes, t-shirts, the Jackson's wrote books to supplement MJ's project. What's wrong with that? You don't think going on a live set and sticking to a script n a character through an entire interview isn't work? Good lord, talk about the hot seat. That is indeed working for a living and anyone who thinks it's mooching off MJ ought to give it a try themselves and see how well they do. These are oscar worthy performances.And honestly, we aren't going to disparage the Jackson Family here anymore. It's expressly against the rules, not to mention the mission statement of this website.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginGuys take a look at these tweets:Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hJackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery. Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3h One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace. 5:05 PM - 15 Aug 13 · DetailsAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hThere were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3h... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3hRowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)Please read the rest of the tweets too there's a lot of info. there.Thank you very much for this,very intresting and very hoaxy indeed :icon_eek: :suspect: .What aboot vitiligo,Elephant man and Munich part :suspect: ??Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said she saw him in so much pain, he would have cold sweats, grow pale, and couldn’t see or think clearly when this happened.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said she would ask Jackson about his pain on a 1-10 scale, and he would get scared if his pain approached reached level 3.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said she wanted to make sure her friend was OK, but it wasn’t part of her job to accompany him to treatments outside of Klein’s office.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe began to break down as Chang asked her to describe her helping Jackson during his medical treatments.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hIn the end, the keloids got “even thicker and lumpier.” Rowe said another surgery wasn't an option.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hThe aim was to get one keloid to contend with on Jackson’s scalp, but it wasn’t successful, Rowe said. It fell apart in 1996 or 1997.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hThat’s why Jackson had to have an implant placed under his scalp to expand the skin. That was done by Dr. Gordon Sasaki.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hAfter the treatments on Jackson, there wasn't enough skin for plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin to do a scalp reduction.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“It’s horribly painful,” Rowe said. She said in some treatments, you can hear the skin popping while the medication is administered.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hKeloid tissue is very hard and dense and it requires regular injections to treat. She said an air gun is used for some of the treatments.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said keloids are extremely painful. On Jackson, they started “mid-scalp and went back to the crown,” she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hA couple photos were shown. None of the pictures Chang showed Rowe to demonstrate medical conditions were of Jackson.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe then explained that Jackson had keloids, a series of lumpy bumps on his skin that sometimes happen to burn victims.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe was also complementary of Hoefflin’s skills as a plastic surgeon when he first treated Jackson.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“He was almost phobic about needles,” Chang asked. “No, he was phobic,” Rowe replied.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang asked Rowe a few questions about Metzger. She told the jury Metzger was the best man at her and Jackson’s wedding in 1996.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h... from a rheumatologist (Dr. Allan Metzger) and a dermatologist, (Dr. Arnold Klein.) Both got extra training in their respective fields.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe explained to the jury why Jackson needed two doctors to treat his discoid lupus. She said it needed treatment ... (cont)ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“As busy as he was, he wasn’t the best person to think about and organize and keep track of his medical care,” Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hJackson found her honesty refreshing, Rowe said. She began to accompany him to medical appointments to put him at ease, watch out for him.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe noted she wasn’t a Michael Jackson fan when they met and she told him so. “I apparently have no filter, as my daughter says,” she said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe was she and Jackson talked about everything, and that he didn’t want to burden his mother with specifics about his conditions.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hBackground on the reference to the Elephant Man can be found here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login …ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe was asked whether Jackson compared himself to the Elephant Man. She said he did.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10h“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang: “He felt disfigured?” Yes, Rowe replied. Chang asked if Jackson felt embarrassed. Rowe said he did feel embarrassed.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said any one of Jackson’s conditions would have been difficult for a person to deal with, but MJ had to deal with it in the public eye.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe, on her role of accompanying Jackson to procedures: “I didn’t want him to feel as hopeless as he felt and as helpless as he felt.”ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang then asked about the burns to Jackson’s scalp that occurred during the Pepsi commercial shoot.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hVitiligo was one of the reasons that Jackson sought frequent treatment from Dr. Klein, Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hJackson, in consultation with Dr. Klein, opted to de-pigment all of his skin, Rowe said.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hShe said it became clear that Jackson’s vitiligo wasn’t going to go away at some point, and it caused him tremendous anxiety.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said vitiligo was harder to treat in people with darker skin, and explained that the skin lightening can come and go.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hThrough photos, she explained to the jury what vitiligo, discoid lupus looked like and their effects.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hMuch of Rowe’s early testimony was explaining the medical conditions Jackson suffered from.ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe started out being questioned by Deborah Chang, one of Katherine Jackson’s attorneys.There something very odd about 4 and 6 july performances too,when he did History tour :suspect: :suspect:.Why they spoke specifically about Munich ,july 1997 :suspect: ?? Cause there is a video or 2 with him, Debbie, and Prince ,and he looks perfectly fine to me.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxwOY5U680[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsvQJYRneM[/youtube]Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hRowe said she told Jackson and he was so excited, he ran onto the tarmac of the airport where they were filming “Ghost.”ExpandAnthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 10hChang then showed a photo of Jackson, in makeup for his short film “Ghost,” riding on the back of her Harley-Davidson motorcycle.Debbie said that Mike compared himself with Elephant man and that felt embarrassed,because of his skin condition .“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.Now there is something that I don't understand :suspect: .Michael was a VERY BEAUTIFUL man,instead he saw himself UGLY :icon_e_confused:?? Acording to Debbie,because of Pepsi burn, Michael had keloids problems and during 1996-1997 all felled apart .Michael's video Ghost was filmed in 1996 and he looked fine,more than fine I have to say :LolLolLolLol: lol,during that time.Let's see how creative,beautiful ,palyful ,funny :icon_lol: :icon_lol: and full of life Mike was then.He never changed ,he was the same Michael that we saw in Dangerous,Bad and Thriller era. :icon_cool: :[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9om_4hOwM[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqaL7WY9SkI[/youtube]How convenient that now ,we have Debbie speak about Ghost and Michael's horrible situation during that time ,and 1 or 2 days before,someone leaks videos with him,from Making of Ghost, looking more than fine :icon_geek: .ok am i the only one who sort of feels like she is egging it on? like he and ( it looks like security ) are ready to real it in and she wants to keep going? :icon_e_confused:
Bec, but isn't "a very good reason" the base of this whole hoax? This hoax is absolutely not for entertainment purposes only and i do believe that MJ wants to make us and the whole world realize some things (not a "personal crusade" but a much larger thing such as how the music industry treats the artists, Illuminati connexion etc etc as i'm pretty much certain that MJ's not pulling this hoax out only for some selfish purposes) that are usually ignored by the general public. Exposing "a very good reason" after bam is imo what will get the attention of people all around the world (with the exception of some people such as our grandparents lol) and what will have a massive effect on how MJ will be seen (his true genius will have to be recognized, even though, i agree with you, haters still gonna hate). Without that reason, bam, and the hoax are somehow pointless and if there is a come-back, then MJ might have some serious problems as people will feel betrayed (especially fans) even though everything in the hoax was legal. But if MJ has a "good reason" then not only will he get the people's attention (as i believe we (believers) won't be the only ones to care) but also revealing his magnificent hoax and its purposes he'll be able to explain his not 100% moral/legal proceedings (and don't get me wrong, I do not believe there are many of such things in this hoax but while he may be clean with the law, there will always be people claiming that this or that shouldn't have been done etc). If you want to expose someone, you just cannot be 100% nice to that person, especially when it is part of a larger operation (we were talking about the FBI involvement, stings etc)... If MJ has some important people on his side, i believe that nothing is impossible. While Murray's trial had fake written all over it, this one has always been a lot different to me, much more serious (maybe bcs we don't have live video coverage and can't see all the toys in the room lol). The fact that Katherine is directly involved bothers me a lot bcs somehow i do not believe that MJ would like his mum to be in court everyday and listen to horrible things being said about his son, whether he's dead or not, for hoax/entertainment purposes only... So imo he has to have some very good reasons to even let this trial begin. So i think that there has to be a real purpose for this trial (that may be half fake but not completely) and i have no real idea what this purpose is but i believe it will be part of the "very good reason" for this hoax and that it will be revealed after bam.That being said, I have no real clue what's going on so i just wait... :smiley-vault-misc-150: :LolLolLolLol:
@applehead .... the hanging around at the window ...... showing the baby to the fans ect. thought this was someone who didn't like the attention. :icon_e_confused: a little confusinging. maybe i am reading it wrong.