Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012

[Thriller4ever]

is anything happening in this trial? i am kinda lost.

[iLoveyoumore]

Gosh this trial is taking forever.

Exactly! Judge just announced it will last even longer

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Jury entered the courtroom 10:10 am PT. Judge Yvette Palazuelos advised jurors she came up with new time estimate for the trial.

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Judge: My estimate has now changed. The case will probably be submitted to you at the end of September.

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"It is what it is," judge said. She told jurors before they would get the case at the end of August.

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Outside the presence of the jury, AEG attorney told judge he will be done 1st week of Sept or so. Panish said he has 4 rebuttal witnesses.

I bet it will end at the end of October.. Murray will be free.. This Is It.. everything in October  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

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Hey Applehead  :bearhug: thanks for the vid and for your post.....full of positive energy !!!!!  :michael-jackson:


                           

Blankie my friend ,you Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet  :icon_e_biggrin: :LolLolLolLol: !!!!
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And Im waiting for,  :bearhug:  Apple !!!  :bearhug:


                     

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

Gosh this trial is taking forever.

Exactly! Judge just announced it will last even longer

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Jury entered the courtroom 10:10 am PT. Judge Yvette Palazuelos advised jurors she came up with new time estimate for the trial.

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Judge: My estimate has now changed. The case will probably be submitted to you at the end of September.

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"It is what it is," judge said. She told jurors before they would get the case at the end of August.

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Outside the presence of the jury, AEG attorney told judge he will be done 1st week of Sept or so. Panish said he has 4 rebuttal witnesses.

I bet it will end at the end of October.. Murray will be free.. This Is It.. everything in October  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

I agree with you dear, we understand the hoax the same way and get the same signals.

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Putnam: Would it be surprising to you that the Rolling Stones have a doctor on tour with them right now?
Ortega: No.

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Ortega said nobody came up to him on the 23rd or 24th expressing concern about MJ. They did on the 19th but not after MJ came back on 23rd.

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The week of June 15th is when Ortega grew concerned with Michael Jackson.

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Putnam: Did you see Michael deteriorate over 8 weeks?
Ortega: I would've not used the word deteriorate to describe what I saw.

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"However, the sell out at the O2 for 50 shows showed he still had drawing power," Ortega opined.

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Putnam did re-cross.

Ortega: Michael had not performed in 10 years. Whether he'd command the world like he had before remained to be seen.

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Ortega said he never told Faye MJ had to face his fears; used the word tough love, may have said the show could be cancelled if not ready.

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Katherine Jackson nodded in the audience in agreement. "In respect of why we are all here for, that's not nice," Ortega said on the stand.

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Ortega then opined: If Michael ever heard you talk like that it would not be appropriate. Isn't that right Mrs. Jackson?

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Panish: Did you heard Murray walked out and said he couldn't take this s**t anymore?
Ortega: No, I never heard that.

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Panish asked if Ortega knew how much pressure AEG was putting MJ and Dr. Murray on. He said no.

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Panish: Did you ever learn that Phillips was grabbing Dr. Murray's arm?
Ortega: I never heard that.
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Phillips didn't do anything to stop Dr. Murray's admonishment of Ortega in the meeting, Panish said. Ortega agreed.

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Ortega said Dr. Murray did not have the same mindset as him in the June 20th meeting.

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Panish asked if Ortega was doing his job when he sent email w/ concerns. "More than just doing my job, looking out for my friend" he said.

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Panish: You expect AEG to check them out, not being under conflict of interest situation?
Ortega: Yes.

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Panish: I want you to assume that AEG Live hired Dr. Murray. Would you expect them to hire a fit and competent doctor?
Ortega: Yes.

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"Eventually he started to decline and disappear," Ortega recalled.

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Ortega: MJ was very cool, bold, strong in his ideas and what he wanted all through the beginning of the process.

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Panish: Did you think MJ was irresponsible?
Ortega: It seemed to me that he was in trouble.

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Ortega suggested another physician, not Murray, come to check MJ out.

Panish: You didn't think Dr Murray was doing a good job?
Ortega: No

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Panish: Did you say that after MJ died?
Ortega: No, I think I'd have said it sooner than that.

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Panish: Sir, did you tell anyone that MJ should've been taken to the hospital?
Ortega: I might have.

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Panish: Did you have concerns about his physical condition on June 14?
Ortega: I'd say yes.

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"It was fairly obvious he was not moving forward in the rehearsals with this sort of tempo," Ortega testified.

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Ortega said he didn't see MJ at practice for a long period of time in June.

Panish: In June, he didn't show at all?
Ortega: That's correct

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Ortega: Most of us have never seen anyone work as hard to accomplish something as MJ.

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Panish: Was MJ perfectionist?
Ortega: That would be something that people would have called him.

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"Yes, he did change over time," Ortega said about Michael Jackson.

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Panish: Did you ever have assistant producer say she was afraid an artist would die in weeks of a show and they actually did die?
Ortega: No

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Ortega said he disagrees with anyone who says there's no way MJ could've done 50 shows.

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"He sold 50 shows," Ortega said. "Pretty awesome, historical."

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Ortega: I think the Stones come close, McCartney come close. But if MJ was not the number one, he was very close.

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Ortega: I'd think if done right, that Michael would be the highest draw on the planet. Panish: You don't think Celine Dion would be bigger?

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Panish: Are you aware of any artist in the world with the drawing power of Michael Jackson?

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Email from Gongaware to Ortega on March 25, 2009:
I'm afraid we may not be able to meet your financial requirements for a deal.

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Ortega said, at one point, there was a standstill regarding his contract.

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Earlier in the trial, Ortega testified rehearsal schedule and attendance was up to Dr. Murray and Randy Phillips.

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"I recalled that Dr. Murray was going to be responsible for the schedule," Ortega said.

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Email from Woolley to Bob Taylor saying Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray were responsible for MJ rehearsal and attendance schedule.

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Panish: Did you think you were not being demanding enough of MJ's attendance and schedule?
Ortega: No

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Panish: Have you ever seen a situation where a CEO for promoter/producer set rehearse schedule with artist's doctor?
Ortega: No

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Panish: Have you seen a CEO for promoter/producer involved in artist rehearse attendance/schedule?
Ortega: CEO no, producers/promoters yes.

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Panish: Were you ever involved in a show where promoter was buying saline, catheter, needles for a doctor?
Ortega: No.

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Panish: Were you ever involved in a show where promoter was buying CPR machine?
Ortega: Not that I know of.

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"I don't think producers can fire Cher," Ortega said.

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"I don't think producers can fire Tom Cruise," Ortega opined. Panish said movies are different from singers.

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"I assume they could give a good try," Ortega responded. "I assume they could do that but I doubt it would last more than 24 hours."

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Panish: The producer could fire you if they wanted, right?
Ortega: I think Michael would not be happy with that.

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Panish asked if MJ could've been fired by AEG. "No, he was a partner," Ortega responded. He said Michael told him that.

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Ortega clarifies that the only artist, "the" artist, was Michael Jackson.

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Ortega said he thinks it's unusual for producers to engage attorneys to hire a doctor for an artist.

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Panish: In all your years in the industry, have you ever heard a producer involved in hiring a doctor for an artist?
Ortega: I haven't.

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Ortega: It seemed like it was doctor related, so it wasn't like taking drugs but just being under the influence.

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Panish asked is Ortega saw MJ several times appearing under some kind of drugs during TII.

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Ortega: I assumed sleep had to be a part of it, he looked rested.

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Panish asked Ortega to assume MJ was getting Propofol for 60 days then didn't have Propofol the last few days before his death.

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Panish: The symptoms he had, did it seem like someone who wasn't sleeping?
Ortega: I think that might have been a factor there.

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Panish: And before that you thought he was not having any sleep?
Ortega: Yes.

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In re-direct, Panish asked: Prior to June 23rd, you thought Michael got real organic sleep?
Ortega: Yes.

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Ortega said said excitement was pretty unanimous among all the people working on "This Is It."

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Putnam: Did you have concern on the 23rd or 24th he was taking drugs?
Ortega: No.

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Ortega felt less excited, deeply grateful about MJ's come back.

"Maybe it was a lot of rest," Ortega opined. "He did seem rested, stronger"

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MJ also rehearsed and performed. Ortega said he was feeling they were back on track, believing they were in a new chapter.
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Ortega said MJ was almost as good on the 24th as the 23rd. He seemed a little tired from the day before but talked about things for the show

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Ortega: Everybody felt there was a different Michael in the room.

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Ortega said he just embraced it and went with it. "We were all delighted" Ortega recalled. "The energy in the room changed, hope returned"

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Ortega: He was in charge. Not only capable to rehearsing but to talk about other aspects of production, like films, the effects, costumes.

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MJ was there a number of hours, Ortega said. He went thru a number of songs.

Putnam: Had he taken the reins?
Ortega: Yeah

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Putnam: How was the rehearsal?
Ortega: Great. It was one of the best rehearsals we had up until then.

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"It was like metamorphosis," he said.

Putnam asked if Ortega inquired MJ what had happened. "I din't pry in his personal live," he replied

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Ortega said MJ was always a little chill, but not like on the 19th. The director was surprised how quickly MJ got better.

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Ortega: He seemed healthy, ready and happy, there didn't seem to be any left over issues from the 19th.

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Putnam: Completely different?
Ortega: Completely

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Ortega said the meeting on June 20th was at MJ's Carolwood home. On June 23rd, Ortega testified MJ was in great spirits, ready to work.

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Ortega: He was unbelievable! His reasons for doing the tour were incredible. He was motivated.

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"He seemed exhilarated, excited, like the Michael I always knew," Ortega described.

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Ortega: I think the arrival of his children in his life brought something he didn't have before.

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Ortega: I was happy for him, because he had been through so much, I wanted him to be the King again.

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"Michael wanted to get out on the road," Ortega said.

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"I think seating in a theater for 5 years in Las Vegas wasn't really attractive to him," Ortega explained.

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Ortega said MJ was being approached by someone from American Idol, also Randy Phillips approached him, they wanted to do something with him.

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The director described MJ very excited, even not knowing yet what "TII" was going to be, but feeling exhilarated.

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Ortega said he had dinner with MJ a couple of times, MJ took his children to see High School Musical, and that he looked fined.

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Putnam: Were you concerned MJ was doing drugs before "TII" in 2008?
Ortega: No, I saw him.

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Putnam: Did you have any concern with MJ's health?
Ortega: I don't recall having any concerns
P: How about mentally?
O: No

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"HIStory" tour rehearsal was done in Los Angeles, Ortega said.

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MJ was transported to the hospital. Ortega didn't go, because he said he wasn't invited. "Certainly concerned," though, he explained.

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He said security responded quickly, everybody stayed away to give paramedics room to work.

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Ortega was present at Beacon Theater when MJ collapsed. He didn't see the artist fall, though.

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Putnam: But at no time you thought he was using drugs?
Ortega: No.

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Putnam: Was he physical well?
Ortega: He seemed tired and unhappy, stressed.

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Ortega was called to help MJ with the HBO special.

Putnam: He seemed well to you?
Ortega: Unhappy

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At this time, MJ was living at Neverland. Ortega said they never rehearsed at MJ's ranch, but a stage in Los Angeles.

Putnam: Did you have any concerns he might have been using drugs then?
Ortega: No

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Ortega said he usually likes to stay in tour until everything is working to everybody's satisfaction. He said it may be 4-5 shows or 8-10

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Ortega's first time working with MJ was in the "Dangerous" tour. He said he may have been director of the project. It was in 1992-93. ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"He was strong," Ortega said.

But 20 years later, when Ortega worked with MJ in the "This Is It," the director said MJ was much different.

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Putnam: In your opinion, was Mr. Jackson always skinny?
Ortega: In the early years I worked with him he was light, lean performer.

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"I might have been a little concerned (with his weight) when I brought that up, yes," Ortega testified.

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Ortega said MJ liked to be in a certain kind of place (weight) to execute his moves and to get the look he wanted.

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The singer would smile and answer "okay" in a very loving way, Ortega recalled.

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MJ wasn't really fond of massage, Ortega said. "Don't forget to eat, get some rest," Ortega would tell MJ.

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Ortega said he would talk to MJ, as a performing artist, and ask if he was focusing on nourishment, health, warming up, stretching, sleeping

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Putnam: Did you ever talk to him about nutrition?
Ortega: As a general idea
P: Physical therapy?
O: Yes

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"Because he came out of rehab," Ortega said. "He was moving on with his life in a healthy way, hopefully."

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Putnam: Did you have any reservation to work with him after rehab?
Ortega: No
P: Why not?

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Ortega never asked MJ about his rehab stint or any drug use.

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Someone on behalf of Michael Jackson contacted Ortega to be part of the HBO special.

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Putnam: Were you responsible for MJ's health?
Ortega: No.

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Ortega: I wanted to take care on him, you want to take care of someone when something is not right, but you can't be responsible.

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Jurors were writing viguroulsy at this point. Juror number 6 looked over at Katherine Jackson.

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Ortega: I didn't think he was being very responsible, but it was his responsibility, in my opinion.

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Putnam: Do you think MJ was being responsible with his own health?

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"Adults are responsible for their own health," Ortega opined.
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Ortega: I worked with 10,000 people in the Olympics, how can I be responsible for everybody's health?

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Putnam: Did he (Murray) offer any explanation of what happened to MJ the night before?
Ortega: I don't believe so.

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Putnam: Did you talk about drugs in that meeting?
Ortega: No

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Ortega said Michael explained in the meeting that what Dr. Murray said was not what had occurred.
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Ortega: I'd like to think that Michael would not set me up that way, I'd like to think Dr. Murray misunderstood Michael.

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Ortega said Dr. Murray told him to be the director and to quit his concerns with Michael Jackson's health because it was not his job.

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Ortega: I did think it was right he didn't rehearse that night, I did think it was the right thing he went home.

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Ortega said, at one point, MJ told him he was going home. "I said yes, go home, tuck your children in, feel better," Ortega described.

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Ortega: I looked at Michael and asked him to tell what had happened, that I didn't forbid Michael of anything.

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Ortega testified he said: 'Wait a minute, that's not at all what happened.' The director recalled Dr. Murray said MJ told him that.

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Ortega: Murray started up saying I had no right to not allow Michael to rehearse that night and that I had no right to send him home.

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Ortega: He said don't leave me, I'm gonna take the reins, you'll see I'm going to change this. He seemed absolutely committed at that point.

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Putnam: MJ assured you that he was fine?
Ortega: I didn't feel assured

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Dr. Murray told Ortega to quit being an amateur doctor and that MJ was physically fit to show, the director recalled.

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At the meeting, Dr. Murray told Ortega to stay out of it and to leave MJ's health for him to take care.

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Ortega said he thought it was a responsible way to deal with it, and pretty immediate after the fact.

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There was a meeting scheduled next day to address MJ's problems on June 19.

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Ortega sent an email after seeing MJ that way because he thought Phillips and Gongaware should know about it.

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Putnam: You have never seen Mr. Jackson like that before?
Ortega: No.

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Putnam: It never crossed your mind it could be drug related?
Ortega: No, I was thinking it was something else.

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Ortega: It didn't appear to me it was drugs, it appeared to me it was something else, emotional.

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"I felt somewhat calm when we left," Ortega said. But he said he was still concerned, thus the email he sent to AEG high ups.

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Putnam: He was coherent?
Ortega: Yes
P: Warmed up?
O: A bit
P: More engaged?
O: Yes
P: Calm?
O: Yes

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Putnam asked if throughout the night on June 19th, if MJ got better. Ortega said yes.

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"I supposed I might have suggested it could look that way," Ortega said. "It would've been a really, really bad flu."

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Putnam asked if Ortega testified before he thought MJ had a really bad case of flu.

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Putnam asked about June 19, 2009. "I'll always remember June 19," Ortega said.

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Ortega: I think they were trying to create a schedule to factor in all of Michael's needs (like family) and still could come to rehearsal.

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Ortega: In this stage of the game, Mr. Phillips took on overseeing position to make sure the schedule was responsible for Michael.

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"I looked at Mr. Phillips as the promoter, Michael's promoter and producing partner," Ortega testified.

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Ortega said he never spoke with Timm Wooley about scheduling.

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He explained he didn't think Phillips was involved as much in MJ's scheduling, but was overseeing it.

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Ortega said he learned from Randy Phillips that Dr. Murray was responsible to get MJ to rehearsals on June 15, 2009.

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Ortega: But at the end, I believe they thought Michael had what he wanted.

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Ortega: I think we were getting in a place were we had a ceiling, because we were already with a fat budget.

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He said there were professional discussions like 'is this something you really feel it's going to benefit,' 'do you really need this.'

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Ortega said he would ask Gongaware for more and more things to create the show. Gongaware never denied anything.

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Ortega: Everything we brought to AEG, in terms of enormous creative needs, that AEG was very supportive in doing all they could.

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Putnam: Did you ever see AEG pressure Michael in any way?
Ortega: No

Putnam: Did you feel AEG Live supported MJ?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega: I thought of MJ as my partner, I didn't think of him as my boss. But MJ always had the final creative say in all the years we worked

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Putnam: Who did you consider your boss?
Ortega: Michael.

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"A lot meaning 3-4 times a week," Ortega clarified. He said things changed as they were moving to the Forum, which was end of May.

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Ortega said February, March and April MJ was very involved in the creation of the show, would show up a lot.

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"At the end of the day, creatively, we trusted Michael knew what we needed," Ortega said.

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Putnam: Why?
Ortega: Because he was brilliant and he knew what he was doing.

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"Final say would be Michael," Ortega said. "Michael had final creative say."

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"He would just make it happen," Ortega said. He could not recall Gongaware denying anything.

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"I'd go and say 'this is what we'd like,'" Ortega said.

Putnam: Did he ever tell you you couldn't get something?
Ortega: No.

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"We talked about these things together and I'd go with Michael's blessing to Paul to begin the process," Ortega explained.

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"Because the creative person was Michael, and myself," Ortega explained.

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Ortega did not discuss with Gongaware anything related to creative matters.

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Ortega would discuss with Michael about hiring someone and the director would go to Gongaware to get the contract drawn and the person hired

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Ortega explained he dealt with Gongaware regarding technical things, like moving dates to new rehearsal venue, delivery of stage parts, etc.

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Ortega said he reported to Michael Jackson for the creative side of the tour and regarding budget/financial matters he reported to Gongaware
Abrir
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Ortega said AEG Live and MJ were co-producers of the show.

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Regardless of who contacted him first, Ortega said he was hired because Michael Jackson wanted him.

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Ortega testified he never really fully understand Dr. Tohme's role related to MJ. He thought was a friend.

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Ortega said he didn't really know who Dr. Tohme was, have never met the guy at that point. Tohme said he called on behalf of MJ.

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Putnam: Do you remember as you sit here today who first contacted you?
Ortega: I'm not really certain.

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In Dr. Murray's criminal trial, Ortega said it was Paul Gongaware.
Abrir
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In a deposition related to Lloyds of London litigation, Ortega also said Dr. Tohme first reached out to him regarding TII.

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Putnam showed Ortega's deposition transcript. "In deposition, I remember it to be Dr. Tohme," Ortega said.

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Ortega said he doesn't remember who he said reached out to him first regarding the tour in his deposition.

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Putnam: Is it fair to say you were the "TII" director because of MJ?
Ortega: Yes.

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"He told me he only wanted me," Ortega said about Michael Jackson's wished that he be the director.

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"People were calling it a tour but it was more like an event," Ortega explained.

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Putnam: Did you consider it a tour?
Ortega: We called it tour, term used in the industry, but we weren't really touring, it was 1 venue.
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Ortega went thru all the pages of his contract and said: "I do not see that anywhere."

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Putnam read Murray's contract were it says the contract is not valid unless MJ consented to it and asked if Ortega has that in his contract.

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Ortega: That's what I understand it's in my contract

Ortega's contract does not have a signature line for Michael Jackson.

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Putnam: If tour was successful, you already have in your agreement what you'd be paid in bonus, correct?

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"The shows were not booked or guaranteed," Ortega said. "That's what I think Michael hoped to do, but wasn't booked."

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In Ortega's contract, there is a provision for bonus in case "This Is It" tour went around the world.

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"I can recall specifically, but I'm sure in my 40-something years in this business that has occurred," Ortega testified.

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"It's sort of common in the industry," Ortega said.

Putnam: If you don't reach an agreement, you could work and not get paid?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega said he has put himself in the position of working prior to signing a contract. "It's what I call working in good faith."

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Putnam: You were paid after the contract was executed, right?
Ortega: That's what appears in this document.

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Ortega looked at the document and said he was paid on May 11, 2009, which is after he signed his contract.

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In his deposition, Ortega was shown documents to refresh his recollection. Putnam showed him the same documents.

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Ortega's contract was executed on April 26, 2009. "I believe I was paid in advance of signing," Ortega said.

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"I was only contracted, and we were only focused, on the London tour at this time," Ortega explained.

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Putnam: Did you understand you were an employee of AEG Live?
Ortega: No
P: What were you employee of?
O: K.O. Company

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AEG Live had an agreement with K.O. Company for the services of Ortega.

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Putnam showed Ortega a "Certificate of Employment -- Loan-Out," which Ortega said it's certificate that he works for The K.O. Company, Inc.

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Ortega is under cross examination by AEG's attorney Marvin Putnam. Ortega had professional engagement overseas, not available until today.

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Judge said they are bringing Kenny Ortega back on the stand out of order to finish his testimony.

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Outside the presence of the jury, AEG attorney told judge he will be done 1st week of Sept or so. Panish said he has 4 rebuttal witnesses.

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"It is what it is," judge said. She told jurors before they would get the case at the end of August.

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Judge: My estimate has now changed. The case will probably be submitted to you at the end of September.

[MJonmind]

Paula,

credits Nimue

Some thoughts about yesterday testimony:

Murray and Michael were set to go to London on July 3rd 2009.

Murray contract stated he had to have an UK medical license by July 3rd, if not he wouldn't be paid.

Murray contract had to be signed by Michael to be executed.

Murray received the contract at Jun 23 and sent it back signed at Jun 24, but Michael didn't signed.

Now in 8 days Murray had to get UK medical license. It is said to get a medical license it takes at least 3 months.

From GMC(UK…
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on top of that he would need to take an exam or two.

So 8 days before his deadline he didn't do anything to get the license.

It seems like Murray knew he wouldn't be going to London.

Another point is Michael's signature or the absence of it. If Murray was at Michael's house Jun 23 and Jun 24, why didn't he ask Michael to sign it before he faxed to AEG?

Murray signed and faxed to AEG for AEG to get Michael signature. Does it make sense?

And knowing that he wouldn't get paid if Michael didn't sign it.

Well, just a few facts to think about it.

Great thinking! Many proofs TII was never meant to happen. Whether AEG intended to take MJ out, or all is part of MJ's hoax is the options.

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I will send your Attention agoin to this "Court case stories" from ABC7

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Every single " Story " is under the category Entertainment.....and storie for a serious reporting is a weird Notation !

Then every single Story has a Copyright....at that day about they write they get a Copyright....unbelievable !

And a Copyright for reporting ? Please teach me better, but Copyright is for intellectual property, for text you have written from your Inspiration....not about things from your make a Reportage.

From the beginning i am very sure that the Trial is fiction and this Copyright confirms it !

We get it pice by pice, but it's already filmed Long ago.

Love to the Family !  :bearhug:

Thank you so much applehead !  :bearhug:

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I will send your Attention agoin to this "Court case stories" from ABC7

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Every single " Story " is under the category Entertainment.....and storie for a serious reporting is a weird Notation !

Then every single Story has a Copyright....at that day about they write they get a Copyright....unbelievable !

And a Copyright for reporting ? Please teach me better, but Copyright is for intellectual property, for text you have written from your Inspiration....not about things from your make a Reportage.

From the beginning i am very sure that the Trial is fiction and this Copyright confirms it !

We get it pice by pice, but it's already filmed Long ago.

Love to the Family !  :bearhug:

Thank you so much applehead !  :bearhug:

You're welcome and I thank you for the info   :bearhug: !!!

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The bodyguard also said he never heard Jackson say he was talking to God or seem lost and annoyed, symptoms he displayed in 2009.

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La Perruque said if he saw any of those symptoms and thought they were life-threatening, he would have taken Jackson to the hospital.

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Chang asked about the incident in which Randy Jackson came to Neverland Ranch via helicopter and was turned away.

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La Perruque said neither Michael nor Randy Jackson used the term intervention to describe the visit. Randy didn’t bring a doctor, he said.

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The bodyguard said when he returned to work for Jackson in 2007-early ’08, the singer seemed to have a clear path of what he wanted to do.

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La Perruque reiterated that he didn’t see any signs Jackson was struggling with prescription medications in ’07 or early ’08.

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Chang also clarified when La Perruque last saw Jackson. He said last week it was two weeks before the singer’s death.

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In fact, it was in May, during an anniversary party that Janet Jackson threw for her parents at restaurant in Beverly Hills.

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Chang showed La Perruque the June 19th photo of Michael Jackson in which he looks extremely thin. She asked if he looked like that in May.

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I couldn’t see La Perruque, but he seemed taken aback by the photo. He said that’s not how Jackson looked in May 2009.

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The bodyguard added that if he had seen Jackson as he appeared in the photo, he would have been alarmed.

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La Perruque was asked about Jackson’s charity and he cited instances when the singer bought toys for a Florida women’s shelter. 

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Instead of delivering the toys and causing a scene, La Perruque said Jackson had his bodyguards deliver them.

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The singer would also stop his car and give money to people on the streets, a practice he learned from his mother, La Perruque said.

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The bodyguard described the close and loving relationship Jackson had with his mother and his three children.

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La Perruque: “I think Michael was at his happiest when he was with his children.” He added that Jackson didn't spoil his children. 

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Jackson would only allow his children to buy one toy apiece when they went shopping, La Perruque said.

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Chang: “Did he want to be remembered as the greatest entertainer in the world or the greatest father?” A: “I would say the greatest father.” 

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Chang’s questioning concluded, and Putnam only asked a few questions. He asked if Jackson’s late night calls (described last week) ...

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... came during the same time period as the clips of him performing at the Democratic fundraiser, American Bandstand event.

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La Perruque said they were. The calls occurred over was a broad time period, from 2001 to 2004.

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The bodyguard’s testimony was finished within 50 minutes of taking the stand today, and then damages expert Eric Briggs returned.

Michael Jackson's ex-bodyguard testifies about singer's drug use
By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 9:55 AM EDT, Mon August 5, 2013

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He would go to Jackson's room many of those nights to check to make sure he was alright, he said. He appeared to be intoxicated, he said. "I think he was just lonely and wanted to have somebody to talk to."
Under cross examination by Jackson lawyer Deborah Chang, LePerruque said Jackson's intoxication appeared to be consistent with someone drinking alcohol and taking sedatives to sleep.
Did he think he was addicted to drugs? "I wouldn't be able to say that he was addicted to those," he answered.
The security chief said he would sometimes notice empty wine bottles from the hotel room's minibar, but he never saw drugs. He also never witnessed Jackson take medications, he said.
He described a scary incident in 2001 when Jackson's children dialed 911 for help when they found their father passed out in the hallway of their suite at a Disney World hotel in Orlando, Florida.
Paris and Prince, then just 3 and 4 years old, were "crying, saying they couldn't wake up daddy," he testified. Jackson woke up after LePerruque performed mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and shook him, he said. Paramedics found no signs of a drug overdose, he said. (Okay, confirmation of the original story that he passed out from alcohol intoxication ( drunkenness) and not a drug overdose.)

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Their late night talks revealed to the guard that Jackson had trouble getting to sleep, a problem that would eventually lead to his death. He told him he couldn't sleep because his brain wouldn't stop creating music. ( Intresting, so that's why he couldn't sleep  :animal0017: :animal0017:   !! )
"He said that as an artist he always had a tune in his head, different melodies, and he wasn't able to stop it," La Perruque said. "It was always constant going through his brain.
The coroner ruled that Jackson died of an overdose of propofol, which Murray told investigators he was using to treat the singer's insomnia.
The incidents in which Jackson appeared to be under the influence of alcohol and drugs became more frequent after the broadcast of a documentary based on Martin Bashir's extensive interviews with him. LaPerruque said Jackson was "very devastated" by what he thought was the betrayal of trust he had with Bashir. Child molestation charges were filed in Santa Barbara County, California, after the broadcast.
LaPerruque said he never believed the criminal charges against Jackson were true. If he suspected he was molesting children he would be the first to slap handcuffs on him, he said.
"I came out in full support of him," LaPerruque said.
Jackson was acquitted on all charges after a trial.
LaParruque called Jackson "very down to earth," saying he was proud to have worked for him.
"There were times there were difficulties, but for the most part it was a pleasure working for him," he said.
He noted that one problem Jackson had was keeping up with his cell phones. He lost 27 of them, he said. ( Well damn Mike :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: )

[iLoveyoumore]

Gosh this trial is taking forever.

Exactly! Judge just announced it will last even longer

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Jury entered the courtroom 10:10 am PT. Judge Yvette Palazuelos advised jurors she came up with new time estimate for the trial.

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Judge: My estimate has now changed. The case will probably be submitted to you at the end of September.

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"It is what it is," judge said. She told jurors before they would get the case at the end of August.

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Outside the presence of the jury, AEG attorney told judge he will be done 1st week of Sept or so. Panish said he has 4 rebuttal witnesses.

I bet it will end at the end of October.. Murray will be free.. This Is It.. everything in October  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

I agree with you dear, we understand the hoax the same way and get the same signals.

 :beerchug:  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

[iLoveyoumore]

He noted that one problem Jackson had was keeping up with his cell phones. He lost 27 of them, he said. ( Well damn Mike :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: )

Lol  :icon_lol:

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Gosh this trial is taking forever.

Exactly! Judge just announced it will last even longer

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts
Jury entered the courtroom 10:10 am PT. Judge Yvette Palazuelos advised jurors she came up with new time estimate for the trial.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts
Judge: My estimate has now changed. The case will probably be submitted to you at the end of September.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts
"It is what it is," judge said. She told jurors before they would get the case at the end of August.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts
Outside the presence of the jury, AEG attorney told judge he will be done 1st week of Sept or so. Panish said he has 4 rebuttal witnesses.

I bet it will end at the end of October.. Murray will be free.. This Is It.. everything in October  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

Thank you Iloveyoumore.
I think it will end next year. But I hope you're right. October seems to obvious and MJ is not predictable. But will it be Oct because he thinks we might think Oct is too predictable and by us thinking he is unpredictable he will do the unpredictable thing of being predicable and BAMMING in Oct...

...oh my gosh I don't even know what I just said, I just confused myself...thanks MJ, this is what you've done to me  :icon_e_surprised: :icon_mad: ...gosh the mind games.

[curls]

21st December 2012 was predictable too.

[Snoopy71]

He noted that one problem Jackson had was keeping up with his cell phones. He lost 27 of them, he said. ( Well damn Mike :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: )

Lol  :icon_lol:

27 huh?  Interesting number he came up with.  :icon_e_confused:

TII was released on 28th  :suspect:

Murray is supposed to be released on the 28th  :icon_e_confused:


.....and Michael just happens to lose "27" cellphones?.....I guess he's holding onto the "28th" one  :icon_e_wink:


I'd sit by the phone for that call! :icon_lol:

[LOVEforMJ1995]

He noted that one problem Jackson had was keeping up with his cell phones. He lost 27 of them, he said. ( Well damn Mike :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: )

Lol  :icon_lol:

27 huh?  Interesting number he came up with.  :icon_e_confused:

TII was released on 28th  :suspect:

Murray is supposed to be released on the 28th  :icon_e_confused:


.....and Michael just happens to lose "27" cellphones?.....I guess he's holding onto the "28th" one  :icon_e_wink:


I'd sit by the phone for that call! :icon_lol:

This is what I was thinking too, with "27" lost cell phones I think it's safe to say he must have one now which makes 28, which is a number cropping up a lot recently, hmm