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Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012

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  :abouttime: Katherine Jackson and Children versus AEG lawsuit to be heard September 10th.  It' gonna be quite interesting and might turn the tables in my opinion on just what the relationship with Michael Katherine & the family really was.   :judge-smiley:  http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/96284-Katherine-amp-MJ-s-kids-sue-AEG-Trial-date-set-Sept-10-2012/page104?p=3617746&viewfull=1#post3617746

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bec

If that is the case, it's ending a little early, not falling in line with Murray's release and 4 year mark. Bummer. Will have to keep watching.

Are you entertained?

blankie

Quote from: iLoveyoumore on September 06, 2013, 03:06:00 AM

I don't know if I'm happy or sad this will end. Interesting to see who's going to win.
:icon_eek:

This trial could not be eternal  :icon_razz: waiting for see if Michael gives us some clues along with the verdict   :suspect: :moonwalk_:

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Quote from: bec on September 06, 2013, 10:04:00 AM

If that is the case, it's ending a little early, not falling in line with Murray's release and 4 year mark. Bummer. Will have to keep watching.

also thought about that, and was extended period. Many whispers these last days, Teddy R. going to write a book, Prince wants to marry?
http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/03/mjs-funeral-the-stars-arrive/?adid=center_tmz_history

Perhaps the truth have to wait a little more ..


sweetsunsetwithMJ

Michael's Mother, Katherine Jackson,Must Testify Again Says AEG Lawyer
September 11, 2013

Michael's mother will be called back to testify by AEG Live as its last witness in their defense of Katherine Jackson's wrongful-death lawsuit on Monday, an AEG Live lawyer said Wednesday. AEG Live lead attorney Marvin Putnam said he would question the 83-year-old Jackson family matriarch "about the absurdity of the damages" she wants the jury to award if they decide the concert promoter is liable in Michael's death.

A Jackson lawyer argued that AEG Live's "intent is to show the lawsuit's purpose is greed," while the judge suggested that any mother could be expected to say "there is no amount of money that would substitute for the loss of her son."

Putnam has frequently cited in interviews a "statement of damages" letter sent to him by a Jackson lawyer last year capping possible damages at $40 billion, but the judge ruled that he could not refer to it in court because it was not a sworn filing in the case.

After AEG Live rests its case — which lawyers indicated would happen Monday — the Jackson lawyers would have a chance to call several rebuttal witnesses. Closing arguments in the trial, which began in April, could be heard as soon as next week.

http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/news/michaels-mother-katherine-jackson-must-testify-again-says-aeg-lawyer/?

I WANNA BE WHERE YOU ARE!!

RK

By Alan Duke, CNN

Los Angeles (CNN) — AEG Live lawyers changed their mind about calling Katherine Jackson as their last witness in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial.

Instead, lawyers for the concert promoter may play a portion of Prince Jackson's video deposition before resting its defense case Wednesday.

The five-month-long trial in Los Angeles is nearing an end, an closing arguments could be delivered on Monday. Testimony, which has been on hold for more than a week because of an illness in one juror's family, resumes Wednesday.

Jackson's mother and three children are suing AEG Live, contending that the concert promoter was liable for the pop icon's death because it hired, retained or supervised the doctor convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

AEG Live argues that Jackson chose and controlled Dr. Conrad Murray and that its executives had no way of knowing about the dangerous treatments he was giving the star in his bedroom.

Jackson died of an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol, which Murray told investigators he used to treat the singer's insomnia so he could rest for comeback concert rehearsals in the summer of 2009.

AEG Live lawyer Marvin Putnam announced in court last week that he intended to call Michael Jackson's elderly mother to question her "about the absurdity of the damages" she wants the jury to award if they decide the company is liable. Putnam informed the court and Jackson's lawyers Monday that he had decided not to call her again.

A Jackson lawyer argued that AEG Live's "intent is to show the lawsuit's purpose is greed," while the judge suggested that any mother could be expected to say "there is no amount of money that would substitute for the loss of her son."

Putnam has frequently cited in interviews a "statement of damages" letter sent to him by a Jackson lawyer last year capping possible damages at $40 billion, but the judge ruled that he could not refer to it in court because it was not a sworn filing in the case.

Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle pointed out that the lawsuit complaint only says that damages would be "according to proof at trial," based on testimony by several expert witnesses who have testified.

READ MORE: http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/showbiz/michael-jackson-death-trial/


blankie

This is it...this is the moment... :icon_e_wink:  :moonwalk_:

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applehead250609

Quote from: blankie on September 17, 2013, 05:07:44 PM

This is it...this is the moment... :icon_e_wink:  :moonwalk_:

Blankie are you a wizard or what  :icon_e_surprised:  ;) ?? Yes my friend,This is it ,cause it seems that after five months, prosecution may show unseen raw TII footage to jurors before closing :omg: !!!

Jackson lawyers said they may show jurors previously unseen raw video of Jackson's last rehearsals after they call Dr. Metzger to the witness stand Thursday. They said they expect to rest their case at the end of the day.


blankie

Unseen footage???  :icon_e_surprised: After four years !! Thanks for the news apple... Waiting for !!!   :moonwalk_: :suspect:

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everlastinglove_MJ

This just came in

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ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m
Unless something changes over the weekend, NO MORE WITNESSES in this case!!!!

Unless something changes.... hmm, this sounds like it's not over yet and that there's more to come
It's all for L.O.V.E.

paula-c

Around 1:40 pm PT, jurors were escorted by sheriff's department. We're told they had security brief for sequestration during deliberation.

Outside the presence of the jury, Deborah Chang argued she doesn't think it's appropriate for the court to sanction.

Chang gave 38 pages of Debbie Rowe's testimony to Dr. Metzger to read.

Judge had ruled that non-retained expert witnesses should not be given copies of other witnesses' testimony.

Chang: I don't think it was intentional violation of court's order. I believe we acted in good faith Judge: The good faith exception, huh?

Judge then precluded plaintiffs from asking anything related to the issue German doctors and Propofol used to sleep.

Bina: He already testified without the taint of someone else's testimony. Even if she acted in good faith, it irreparably tainted his memory

Bina said she's asking for fair remedy here, which is keep this part out of Dr. Metzger's out.

Cahan said the 38 pages of Rowe's testimony detailed the set up the anesthesiologist in German, logistic, what drugs have been provided.

"There's no other way to fix this other than keep it out," Cahan urged the judge.

Panish: What we did, show him the testimony, is appropriate. Non-retained experts can be refreshed.

"This is about refreshing his recollection with someone else's memory," Bina argued.

Panish: Defense will argue MJ had long history of use of Propofol. The evidence here is that Propofol was used in connection with surgeries.

Bina: We can never get back what Dr. Metzger's memory actually was. Judge: Ok, I'm ready to rule. I'm excluding it

Jurors entered the court at 2:41 pm. Dr. Allan Metzger resumed testimony. Deborah Chang continued the questions.

Chang: Do you recall having a conversation with Paul Gongaware about MJ's inability to sleep? Dr. Metzger: Yes, I do.

No further question. Kathryn Cahan, for AEG, doing cross examination.

Cahan inquired about the time of deposition whether Dr. Metzger had MJ's medical files.

Dr. Metzger: Some of my records were given to my attorney at the time, didn't keep medical records.

There may be an insurance file and one major file, the doctor said. His counsel did not give his medical record prior to his deposition.

Dr. Metzger said that at the time of his deposition, he received a great amount of the file back, but it was out of order and missing pages.

"I told the truth to the best of my ability," Dr. Metzger said about his deposition and his trial testimony.

The doctor said he looked at some of MJ's medical records over the past several days. "I did not look at 26 years of medical records."

Dr. Metzger said he had, in bits and pieces, taken care of other Jackson's family members, including MJ's children

The doctor was very close to MJ and moderately close to the children.

In depo Dr. Metzger's said: Q: And it seems like you also had a very close relationship with Michael's children, correct? A: Yes

Dr. Metzger said he had a moderately close relationship with the children in comparison with his relationship to MJ.

He said there were times the children went to his house for dinner, went to the movies.

Dr. Metzger met Katherine Jackson many years ago, he said. He provided some medical care to her last Summer.

He gave Mrs. Jackson advice about traveling because of her health.

THE KIDNAPPING EVENT

Dr. Metzger: I advised her to fly to Arizona for a concert. I do not know where she was in Arizona, I did not advise her to go to a spa.

"Janet and Randy asked me to evaluate her health," Dr. Metzger said. "I've previously taken care of Janet many years ago."

"I'm well acquainted with the immediate Jackson family and some other members," the doctor said.

"I viewed Michael as a very good friend of mine and I think it was vice-versa," Dr. Metzger testified.

Dr. Metzger said he spoke w/ Chang on the phone about 2 weeks ago and in met her in person with his attorney 2-3 nights ago for an hour.

Doctor said he was out of town from middle of July until mid-Aug. Early July he advised plaintiffs' counsel about his absence.

Dr. Metzger first spoke with plaintiffs' attorneys about testifying back in April or May. He has been subpoenaed.

Dr. Metzger said Chang told him she had an attorney to refer that she thought would suit his needs. She recommended Eric George.

Cahan: Did plaintiffs' counsel help you find an attorney? Dr. Metzger: Yes

Cahan: Are plaintiffs' paying for your attorney in this case? Dr. Metzger: I believe so. C: How much does he charge? Dr. M: I don't know

The doctor said he reached out to Debbie Rowe after seeing in the media that she testified in this case. He wanted to give her some support.

At that time, Rowe also said Eric George was a good attorney. Cahan asked if the doc is charging plaintiffs anything to be here today.

Dr. Metzger: I'll be sending a bill at the end of the trial.

Dr. Metzger: I believe it's reasonable for my time reviewing the records, giving deposition and testimony in this case.

The doctor said he's spent about 6 hours of his time. Cahan asked how much he charges and he said he was not comfortable disclosing his rate

Cahan asked the judge to order him to answer, which judge did. He said he charges approximately $1,000/hour.

"There were no negotiations, I basically said this is my fee and they said ok," Dr. Metzger explained.

As to his attorney, Metzger said he knows there's an arrangement for payment by the plaintiffs and there's also an arrangement between the 2

Cahan: Have you spoken with Jackson's family members about this lawsuit? Dr. Metzger: Basically no

"My recollection I did not speak with any single member of the family about this lawsuit," Dr. Metzger testified.

The doctor said his relationship with Michael Jackson was the closest he has ever had with any patient. He went to Neverland 12-15 times.

He went to MJ's Century City house, saw MJ at Dr. Klein's house and office, saw him in NY, Australia, best man of his wedding to Ms. Rowe.

"He was both," Dr. Metzger said about MJ being a friend and patient. "I always had his best interest at heart."

"I don't believe I ever crossed any ethical boundaries with Michael Jackson," Dr. Metzger said.

The doctor said he understands the Hippocratic Oath to have his patients first, do no harm.

Dr. Metzger: In my view, I always maintained proper boundaries. A lot of physicians would not socialize with patients.

Dr. Metzger: MJ was the most social I was with my patients.

"He really didn't like taking medicine" Metzger said. "I think he needed medicine because he had low pain threshold when undergoing surgery"

YESTERDAY EVEN A HEADACHE WAS IN HIS LIST, TODAY IT WAS ABOUT SURGERY

"He needed it, he didn't take it for joy," Dr. Metzger said.

Dr. Metzger said he believes he never gave MJ Demerol. "Absolutely not," he responded to the question.

Dr. Metzger: At some juncture on that tour (Dangerous), I believe I arranged for Karen, Debbie or security team to bring some medicine to MJ

Cahan: Was that in Aug 1993? Dr. Metzger: I don't recall.

Cahan: Do you remember sending pain medication? Dr. Metzger: Yes, there was some form of pain medication

Cahan: Do you remember sending some Demerol?

Dr. Metzger: I don't personally believe I prescribed MJ Demerol. It could've come from Dr. Klein if it was in the package.

"I don't remember ever writing a prescription for Michael about Demerol," Dr. Metzger explained.

Dr. Metzger admitted he used Karen Faye's name to prescribe medicine for MJ.

"I've done it on rare occasions, almost exclusively for MJ and Janet," Dr. Metzger said.

Cahan: Even though you knew it's illegal? Dr. Metzger: Yes C: Why? Dr. M: To protect their anonymity

Cahan: Have you ever been reprimanded or disciplined for writing prescriptions on someone else's name? Chang asked for a sidebar.

Outside jury's presence there was discussion about Cahan asking if Metzger was reprimanded 4 writing prescription under other people's name

Bina: Dr. Metzger pled no contest to a misdemeanor for misconduct. There's a petition for suspension of Dr. Metzger's medical license.

Bina argued the appropriate remedy should be to strike the question and bar the line of questioning.

Cahan apologized saying she misunderstood the court order. She said she thought it had to do with other patients other than MJ and KJ

Panish: She did it intentionally, was setting him up. It was a premeditated plan. It's not admissible, she severely prejudice this witness

Panish wants an admonition read and wants to be allowed to talk about the German doctors.

Chang argued Cahan did it in bad faith. "The jury is left with the idea that he's a criminal, that he'd do anything for MJ," she said.

"I honestly don't know what to do to fix it," Chang said. "I just want to throw myself on the floor and cry."

Judge will read an instruction to the jury that Cahan's question was improper and they should disregard it or anything implied by it.

Judge admonished Cahan not to ask anything about it.

Dr. Metzger said he travelled to Australia with Debbie Rowe, was there for about 2 weeks. This was HIStory tour.

Dr Metzger never rejoined the tour after he came back to LA. "My schedule and MJ particularly wanted me there for the wedding and Australia"

"He didn't need me and I didn't need to be there," he said. Dr. Metzger recalled treating MJ for mild dehydration while in Australia.

The doc talked about the plan he wrote to help MJ sleep. He said MJ gave permission for him to share plan w/ Rowe, Faye and security guards

"Michael needed to be told what to do," Dr. Metzger said. The plan detailed what to do before flights and after performances.

"He was uncomfortable and a little fearful of flying," Dr. Metzger explained.

Cahan: Did doctor shopping included Mr. Jackson segregating physicians?

Dr. Metzger: Often I'd not hear about other physicians. I'd hear from security or the ladies if it was serious.

"At times, I think he probably did keep things from me because he didn't want me to worry," Dr. Metzger testified.

Dr. Metzger: I always asked him to go thru the hotel, because the hotel had responsibility to hire competent physician.

Cahan: Do you think MJ wanted to keep information from one doctor to another so he could more or less do what he wanted? Dr. Metzger: No

Cahan played video deposition in the insurance company lawsuit where Dr. Metzger said MJ would segregate his doctors.

Dr. Metzger on depo: I think he didn't want to appear he was doctor shopping.

Dr. Metzger: I think he didn't want one medical group to know about another medical group so he could, more or less, do what he wanted.

THE OTHER DR. METAGER

Judge adjourned trial until 10:00 am PT tomorrow for jurors. Attorneys are ordered at 9:30 am PT. Dr. Metzger to resume testimony at 10 am.

PLAN AS OF NOW, ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE: - Witness done tomorrow morning, arguments and motions in the pm - Jury to be instructed on MONDAY

- Closing plaintiff -- TUESDAY - Closing defendant -- WEDNESDAY - Rebuttal plaintiff – THURSDAY

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curls

From yesterday:

ABC7 Court News    ‏@ABC7Courts
            21h
Big victory in court today for Katherine Jackson. The judge just ruled the matriarch is entitled to
seek compensation for the death of MJ.


blankie

Testimony ends in civil trial over Jackson's death
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By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, Associated Press

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Testimony ended Friday in a long-running lawsuit claiming the promoter of Michael Jackson's planned comeback concerts was negligent in hiring the doctor convicted of causing the death of the superstar.

Closing arguments were expected to begin on Tuesday, with the case possibly going to jurors later next week.

Lawyers for Katherine Jackson, who filed the suit involving her son, concluded testimony in the 21-week case after jurors heard from Michael Jackson's longtime personal physician, Dr. Allan Metzger, and his attorney.

Metzger testified about Jackson's skin conditions, burns and other injuries that required medical care by a variety of doctors. He also described Jackson's generosity.

Jackson died in 2009 at his rented mansion in Los Angeles while preparing for the "This Is It" shows in London. Dr. Conrad Murray was later convicted of involuntary manslaughter for giving him an overdose of the anesthetic propofol, a drug Jackson took to help him sleep.

Metzger considered Jackson a close friend and served as best man at the singer's wedding to Debbie Rowe.

Metzger said over two days of testimony that he thought Jackson engaged in some doctor shopping but only used prescription medications to treat legitimate pain.

"He needed it," Metzger said. "He didn't take it for joy."

The doctor was among more than 50 witnesses in the case that began on April 29 with opening statements.

Both sides introduced testimony from Metzger. Lawyers for AEG Live, the target of the lawsuit, played his videotaped testimony detailing Jackson's use of multiple doctors and his close friendship with the singer.

Attorneys for Jackson's mother called Metzger as a rebuttal witness to remind the jury about Jackson's generosity toward charities and the enormous pain he endured after his scalp was burned during a Pepsi commercial shoot in 1984.

In a twist, Metzger's attorney Eric George was the final witness and testified about how he came to represent the doctor after previously working for Rowe in the case.

George said he agreed to represent Metzger for a reduced rate after the doctor contacted him. He also said there was no conflict with his previous representation of Rowe.

AEG Live denies it hired Murray or bears any responsibility for the singer's death.

Also on Friday, Judge Yvettte Palazuelos ruled that Katherine Jackson was financially dependent to at least some extent on her son for necessities of life, and the family matriarch is entitled to damages if jurors find AEG Live liable for her son's death.

http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2013/09/20/testimony-ends-in-civil-trial-over-jacksons-death
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Sweetangel

Hello everyone,

so now I'm sitting here how little Alice in the big Wonderland and I'm just wondering. This Trial is the oddest thing I have ever read and I ask my self is it even a real one. We had the Lawyers who were fighting about the question " Is Michael Jackson really death."We had the "Candy for Jurors story" we had a "Ghost story" calling Michael a freak and other weird stuff. But there is still
no answer to the Mainquestion "Who hired Dr. Murray." We have heard countless witnesses, but where are the People who
were around Michael in the last Year of his Life. Why Nanny Grace, the 3 Bodyguards or Dr. Thome Thome didn't testifed?
The Website of Mr. Pansih the Lawyer of the Jacksons is a crazy one. Even through he has other cases you won't find a single
document or Video about them but with Michael Jackson everything is there like==> discover the Man you never knew.

One August 21 (LOL 3x7) ABC7 Courts did a few interesting tweets.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21 Aug
Video deposition ended. AEG played the next one, Dr. Stephen Gordon, plastic surgeon from Las Vegas.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21 Aug
He said his records are electronically saved. He located the "Michael Jefferson" file.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21 Aug
He said MJ chose to use this name to protect privacy. Dr. Gordon saw MJ professionally 3 times, never socially, spoke on phone maybe twice

ABC7 Courts did mention the Name Michael Jefferson three times so I thought it must be important. And what I discovered
let me fall out of my chair, but take a look for yourself.

http://vimeo.com/28216031

http://vimeo.com/70299238 This one is in German but I hope you get the point. Thanks to Marc Reiman who figured it out.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0705970/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2 This Episode was aired on April 21 LOL 3x7. I see sevens or a

multiple of sevens everywhere but maybe I'm only overhoaxed.  :icon_lol:

Another interesting tweet by Alan Duke

Alan Duke ‏@AlanDukeCNN 19 Sep
The courtroom will hold 313 people, so come on down for closing arguments next week in the trial of AEG Live in MJ's death

Anyone interesting to go to Court? Please don't forget your hoaxglasses.  :icon_mrgreen:

Much Peace and Love to everyone.


sweetsunsetwithMJ

#1003
Quote from: curls on September 21, 2013, 05:34:54 PM

From yesterday:

ABC7 Court News    ‏@ABC7Courts
            21h
Big victory in court today for Katherine Jackson. The judge just ruled the matriarch is entitled to
seek compensation for the death of MJ.

This is the worst tweet I have ever read since the hoax began, I mean if KJ is entitled to seek compensation for her son's death, now the question remains: is MJ really dead or alive?? I only know that everyday I am more and more confused and know nothing  :icon_e_confused:
I WANNA BE WHERE YOU ARE!!

Thriller4ever

can someone explain this to me? this is not the verdict, is it?

twitter: @ComfortablyGeek

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