Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012

[Faithad777]

These just in:

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 23m
AEG's motion won't be heard until Sept. 5 so that all the lawyers who need to argue it can be present.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 24m
AEG Live is seeking a dismissal of the case, claiming the plaintiffs haven't shown enough evidence to send the case to the jury.
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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 24m
The judge laid out a schedule on when certain motions will be argued in the next couple weeks. Katherine Jackson wants to amend her lawsuit.
They don't mention what the amendment is yet, may be later they will........................  Very interesting..................

[MaryK]

Re: KJ amendment

Saw this on Twitter, from mjjcommunity:

Jackson's motion for leave to amend
Jackson motion
Jackson lawyers have filed a motion to amend their complaint to add a claim of negligence.
Jackson lawyers state their original complaint first claim was dismissed by the judge because the judge ruled there was no "duty of care". Jackson lawyers argue that the evidence presented has established a duty of care and allege that AEG performed their contractual duties as producer negligently (paragraph 8 of the contract list AEG's duties)
Evidence to show AEG breached its duty
-   Hiring of a physician creating conflict of interest
-   Norm was to decline the hiring request and require MJ hire his own physician
-   Insertion of AEG into negotiations creating conflict of interest
-   Murray's contract terms written by AEG and giving AEG termination power
-   Demand of $5 Million being a red flag
-   Abrupt drop to $150,000 a month should have raised a red flag that the services were illicit
-   Amount of $150,000 should raised a red flag Murray would be providing drugs to Michael
-   Threat of losing $150,000 would create pressure for Murray
-   AEG's communications with Murray inferred with patient-doctor relationship
-   Allowed Murray act as MJ's physician despite red flags
-   Failed to realize the deterioration and halt the production until MJ was assessed by specialists
-   Failed to remove Murray when Michael was deteriorating under his care
-   False statements to Ortega and others
-   Creating pressure for both Michael and Murray with no cancellation insurance to cover the increased production costs
-   Resulted in drastic measures taken by Michael and Murray on June 25th

AEG's opposition
AEG is opposing the above motion saying that the negligence claim was dismissed during summary judgment and by law it cannot be revisited. AEG specially points out the part in Jacksons motion where they have said they raised the contract issues before.
AEG also argues that everything Jacksons list is actually the same elements of their negligent hiring claim and is not a general negligence claim. They list where some of the above elements were mentioned during summary judgment and state that law states same facts cannot support negligent hiring and general negligence.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/128731-Katherine-Jackson-vs-AEG-Live-Full-Case-History-Summary/page3?p=3885177&viewfull=1#post3885177

[MaryK]

Same link, Re: AEG´s motion of nonsuit

AEG's motion of nonsuit

As Ortega's testimony concluded Jacksons case in chief, AEG has filed a motion for nonsuit - meaning they are claiming Jacksons did not meet burden of proof and case needs to be dismissed. In the alternative (if the whole nonsuit motion is not granted) , AEG is asking for dismissal of individual defendants - Phillips &Gongaware

AEG's main motion

AEG states Jacksons failed to meet their burden of proof on the negligent hiring claim.

AEG states case law that says in California negligent hiring requires "the contact between plaintiff and employee was generated by the employment relationship" and "if employee met plaintiff as a result of something other than employment, a duty will not be imposed on employer". AEG states this is the case here and the contact between Michael Jackson and Conrad Murray was not created by the AEG- Murray employment. AEG states it is undisputed that Michael and Murray have met in 2006 and Murray started treating Michael before any relationship between AEG and Murray. AEG also adds that when Michael told AEG he wanted Murray, both Phillips and Gongaware advised Michael to hire a doctor in London but Michael rejected it and continued with Murray. AEG states AEG did not start Michael / Murray relationship and they did not have the power to end it.

AEG continues to state that negligent hiring claim requires Jacksons show that AEG knew or should have known Murray posed a particularrisk to Michael and they hired him nonetheless. AEG states Jacksons failed to show that AEG knew or should have known Murray posed the risk of harming Michael through improper medical care.

AEG states knowledge about Michael's 93 painkiller addiction and knowledge that Michael appeared ill at times (during 2009) would not put AEG on notice that Murray , a doctor chosen and treated Michael for years ,might kill Michael through an overdose of anesthesia. AEG states even if they discovered what Jacksons state about Murray – debts, judgments, hospital privileges being suspended due to recordkeeping issues- it would not show that Murray would harm Michael through incompetent medical care. AEG states there's no evidence that Murray harmed a patient before.

AEG states Jacksons failed to demonstrate knowledge and harm. AEG states CA case examples to demonstrate that CA law requires a closer nexus with the knowledge and actual harm. Examples include appeal court rulings of : knowledge an employee used drugs and abused his position to gain sexual favors did not put employer on notice that employee might sexually assault a fellow employee. Another example is knowledge of a priest breaking his celibacy wow and having sex with adult women did not put the church on notice that the priest would molest a minor child. There are other several examples provided.

AEG states there have been never an example that debt makes criminal conduct foreseeable like the Jacksons claim. They state debt does not make a person professionally incompetent. They state there's no relationship between debt and medical malpractice. AEG also argues that Michael's thinness or sickness before his death would not put AEG on notice that Murray was harming Michael through improper treatment in his bedroom. AEG states there's no way from Michael's symptoms (shivering, obsessive behavior) , AEG could have concluded Murray was administering Michael propofol in his bedroom. AEG states even the people closest to Michael (his children, his chef, his friend of 27 years Karen, Sankey)could not conclude Murray might harm or kill Michael. They state if the people closest to Michael could not conclude this, there's no way Phillips and Gongaware could come to that conclusion. AEG states there's no evidence that anyone knew Murray was violating his oath while treating Michael. AEG states Murray and Michael kept propofol a secret from everyone and when the employee (Murray) and the victim (Michael) hide the wrongdoing, the employer (AEG) is not required to uncover it. They cite several cases which says employer cannot be liable about employee's conduct when no one complained about the conduct.

AEG adds that negligent hiring claim requires it must be something in employee's (Murray) past that should put the employer (AEG) at notice and victims (Michael) past personal difficulties with drugs cannot be used for required proof of AEG's knowledge about Murray.

AEG states there has been no evidence to show that AEG knew about Murray's propofol treatment and even if they did as lay person they weren't qualified to understand that administration of Propofol at a home setting was improper. AEG cites several cases where corporations weren't held liable for doctors actions as they cannot evaluate a doctors treatment and control or intrude into a doctor – patient relationship. AEG states it's the same situation here. AEG states medical boards that grants licenses to doctors have determined Murray to be a fit physician.

AEG also states that Jacksons fail to show that AEG's conduct was substantial factor in Michael's death. Law requires AEG's conduct to be a substantial factor. AEG states Jacksons failed to show that AEG's alleged hiring of Murray caused Michael's death. AEG again states that Michael knew Murray since 2006 and Murray had treated Michael since as early as 2006. Jackson lawyers themselves have said that a security guard of Michael introduced him to Murray – not AEG. AEG states Jacksons own evidence shows that AEG got nothing to do with Murray and Michael coming in contact.

AEG adds that there's evidence that shows Murray was ordering propofol before AEG even heard of him.AEG states Jacksons argued AEG created a conflict of interest between Murray and Michael and that caused Murray to administer propofol but AEG states Jacksons expert testified that Murray ordered propofol before any alleged conflict. Furthermore both Phillips and Gongaware tried to convince Michael to hire a doctor at London and not bring Murray but Michael refused. AEG states Phillips and Gongaware was powerless to separate Michael from his long time doctor Murray. AEG states there's no relationship between Michael choosing and retaining Murray and anything AEG did. AEG explains that as Michael went to Murray as a doctor without AEG's involvement (as back as 2006) , as Michael choose to retain Murray against recommendations by AEG, it is only logical to conclude that AEG did not cause Michael to submit to treatment by Murray which caused his death. AEG says this shows nothing AEG did caused harm to Michael and they did not have the power to prevent it.

Alternative motion

In the alternative – if the judge does not grant the above main motion and dismiss the whole case due to not meeting the burden of proof- AEG is asking the judge to remove / dismiss Phillips and Gongaware as defendants.

AEG states the negligent hiring claim puts the liability of the employer and not the employees of the employer. AEG states neither Phillips nor Gongaware employed Murray personally. AEG states even if the judge thinks there's enough evidence to suggest AEG Live might have hired Murray, there's nothing to suggest negligent hiring by Phillips and Gongaware as individuals.

[Faithad777]

Thanks for the info. and the link MaryK.

[paula-c]

Dr. Patrick Treacy  ‏@peege  12 ago
Despite what Randy Jackson said in the trial, I never saw MJ with any drugs in his life. Trust me, I knew his #inner

https://twitter.com/peege

[everlastinglove_MJ]

Same link, Re: AEG´s motion of nonsuit

AEG's motion of nonsuit

As Ortega's testimony concluded Jacksons case in chief, AEG has filed a motion for nonsuit - meaning they are claiming Jacksons did not meet burden of proof and case needs to be dismissed. In the alternative (if the whole nonsuit motion is not granted) , AEG is asking for dismissal of individual defendants - Phillips &Gongaware

AEG's main motion

AEG states Jacksons failed to meet their burden of proof on the negligent hiring claim.

AEG states case law that says in California negligent hiring requires "the contact between plaintiff and employee was generated by the employment relationship" and "if employee met plaintiff as a result of something other than employment, a duty will not be imposed on employer". AEG states this is the case here and the contact between Michael Jackson and Conrad Murray was not created by the AEG- Murray employment. AEG states it is undisputed that Michael and Murray have met in 2006 and Murray started treating Michael before any relationship between AEG and Murray. AEG also adds that when Michael told AEG he wanted Murray, both Phillips and Gongaware advised Michael to hire a doctor in London but Michael rejected it and continued with Murray. AEG states AEG did not start Michael / Murray relationship and they did not have the power to end it.

AEG continues to state that negligent hiring claim requires Jacksons show that AEG knew or should have known Murray posed a particularrisk to Michael and they hired him nonetheless. AEG states Jacksons failed to show that AEG knew or should have known Murray posed the risk of harming Michael through improper medical care.

AEG states knowledge about Michael's 93 painkiller addiction and knowledge that Michael appeared ill at times (during 2009) would not put AEG on notice that Murray , a doctor chosen and treated Michael for years ,might kill Michael through an overdose of anesthesia. AEG states even if they discovered what Jacksons state about Murray – debts, judgments, hospital privileges being suspended due to recordkeeping issues- it would not show that Murray would harm Michael through incompetent medical care. AEG states there's no evidence that Murray harmed a patient before.

AEG states Jacksons failed to demonstrate knowledge and harm. AEG states CA case examples to demonstrate that CA law requires a closer nexus with the knowledge and actual harm. Examples include appeal court rulings of : knowledge an employee used drugs and abused his position to gain sexual favors did not put employer on notice that employee might sexually assault a fellow employee. Another example is knowledge of a priest breaking his celibacy wow and having sex with adult women did not put the church on notice that the priest would molest a minor child. There are other several examples provided.

AEG states there have been never an example that debt makes criminal conduct foreseeable like the Jacksons claim. They state debt does not make a person professionally incompetent. They state there's no relationship between debt and medical malpractice. AEG also argues that Michael's thinness or sickness before his death would not put AEG on notice that Murray was harming Michael through improper treatment in his bedroom. AEG states there's no way from Michael's symptoms (shivering, obsessive behavior) , AEG could have concluded Murray was administering Michael propofol in his bedroom. AEG states even the people closest to Michael (his children, his chef, his friend of 27 years Karen, Sankey)could not conclude Murray might harm or kill Michael. They state if the people closest to Michael could not conclude this, there's no way Phillips and Gongaware could come to that conclusion. AEG states there's no evidence that anyone knew Murray was violating his oath while treating Michael. AEG states Murray and Michael kept propofol a secret from everyone and when the employee (Murray) and the victim (Michael) hide the wrongdoing, the employer (AEG) is not required to uncover it. They cite several cases which says employer cannot be liable about employee's conduct when no one complained about the conduct.

AEG adds that negligent hiring claim requires it must be something in employee's (Murray) past that should put the employer (AEG) at notice and victims (Michael) past personal difficulties with drugs cannot be used for required proof of AEG's knowledge about Murray.

AEG states there has been no evidence to show that AEG knew about Murray's propofol treatment and even if they did as lay person they weren't qualified to understand that administration of Propofol at a home setting was improper. AEG cites several cases where corporations weren't held liable for doctors actions as they cannot evaluate a doctors treatment and control or intrude into a doctor – patient relationship. AEG states it's the same situation here. AEG states medical boards that grants licenses to doctors have determined Murray to be a fit physician.

AEG also states that Jacksons fail to show that AEG's conduct was substantial factor in Michael's death. Law requires AEG's conduct to be a substantial factor. AEG states Jacksons failed to show that AEG's alleged hiring of Murray caused Michael's death. AEG again states that Michael knew Murray since 2006 and Murray had treated Michael since as early as 2006. Jackson lawyers themselves have said that a security guard of Michael introduced him to Murray – not AEG. AEG states Jacksons own evidence shows that AEG got nothing to do with Murray and Michael coming in contact.

AEG adds that there's evidence that shows Murray was ordering propofol before AEG even heard of him.AEG states Jacksons argued AEG created a conflict of interest between Murray and Michael and that caused Murray to administer propofol but AEG states Jacksons expert testified that Murray ordered propofol before any alleged conflict. Furthermore both Phillips and Gongaware tried to convince Michael to hire a doctor at London and not bring Murray but Michael refused. AEG states Phillips and Gongaware was powerless to separate Michael from his long time doctor Murray. AEG states there's no relationship between Michael choosing and retaining Murray and anything AEG did. AEG explains that as Michael went to Murray as a doctor without AEG's involvement (as back as 2006) , as Michael choose to retain Murray against recommendations by AEG, it is only logical to conclude that AEG did not cause Michael to submit to treatment by Murray which caused his death. AEG says this shows nothing AEG did caused harm to Michael and they did not have the power to prevent it.

Alternative motion

In the alternative – if the judge does not grant the above main motion and dismiss the whole case due to not meeting the burden of proof- AEG is asking the judge to remove / dismiss Phillips and Gongaware as defendants.

AEG states the negligent hiring claim puts the liability of the employer and not the employees of the employer. AEG states neither Phillips nor Gongaware employed Murray personally. AEG states even if the judge thinks there's enough evidence to suggest AEG Live might have hired Murray, there's nothing to suggest negligent hiring by Phillips and Gongaware as individuals.

Thanks for the info MaryK.

A nonsuit is often taken by a plaintiff who anticipates a judgment or ruling that "imparts finality" against him, who wants to avoid the adverse judgment and preserve at least the possibility of prevailing on the merits of his case in the future.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-suit

:suspect:

[blankie]

Agree with you  Thriller4ever but I don'think that AEG is sure of Michael death hoax.   :icon_e_confused:

Well ,at least we know that Katherine Jackson's Attorney, Brian Panish, Acknowledges The Death Hoax .To me, that says it all   :icon_e_wink: !!!!
:bearhug: to you Blankie !!!

Agree   :D

apple   

[suspicious mind]

so if they acknowledge that there is a hoax does that have to make it michael's

[applehead250609]

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21 Aug
Katherine Jackson is not in court today. We're told she won't come back until after Labor Day. She's working on MJ's birthday celebration

So Katherine isn't coming back to court until after Labor Day because she's working on MJ's birthday celebration  :WTF:?? I thought she didn't celebrate birthdays  :icon_rolleyes:? Strange .....cause Labor day is in May  :icon_e_confused:....... whatever  :icon_lol: .

[MaryK]

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21 Aug
Katherine Jackson is not in court today. We're told she won't come back until after Labor Day. She's working on MJ's birthday celebration

So Katherine isn't coming back to court until after Labor Day because she's working on MJ's birthday celebration  :WTF:?? I thought she didn't celebrate birthdays  :icon_rolleyes:? Strange cause Labor day is in May....... whatever  :icon_e_confused:

Labor Day is celebrated on the first Monday in September in the USA and Canada, as far as I know.

There´s going to be a birthday celebration in Gary, just like last year I think.

[applehead250609]

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21 Aug
Katherine Jackson is not in court today. We're told she won't come back until after Labor Day. She's working on MJ's birthday celebration

So Katherine isn't coming back to court until after Labor Day because she's working on MJ's birthday celebration  :WTF:?? I thought she didn't celebrate birthdays  :icon_rolleyes:? Strange cause Labor day is in May....... whatever  :icon_e_confused:

Labor Day is celebrated on the first Monday in September in the USA and Canada, as far as I know.

There´s going to be a birthday celebration in Gary, just like last year I think.

Aha,thanks for the clarification.It seems that Labor Day is celebrated in May,just in Europe and maybe in other parts. But, in the case of Katherine, herself said that she never celebrates birthdays, that's assuming we include the birthday of her son  :icon_e_confused:  :icon_geek: .

[sweetsunsetwithMJ]

[paula-c]

AEG contract to this Dr. Earley, and gives a chronology of the addictions of Michael

Throughout his testimony, Earley was shown a large timeline showing the various times MJ asked for or received propofol in non-med settings.

One of the instances noted was the time Jackson received propofol in a German hotel room in 1997

The chart also included four times Jackson sought out propofol for sleep: in 98/99 from Dr. Christine Quinn, in 2002 from Dr. Van Valin ...

[quoteand two instances in 2009 from nurse practitioner Cherilyn Lee and Dr. Allan Metzger][/quote]

Dr. Earley said Dr. William Van Valin II testified that in 2002, Jackson brought him a box of propofol and asked him to give it to him.

Earley said this was evidence that Jackson had the drug. Van Valin refused, saying propofol was dangerous, according to the slides

[Snoopy71]

After four months, Michael Jackson wrongful death case nears end

September 5, 2013, 6:00 a.m.

After more than four months of testimony, the Michael Jackson wrongful death case could finally go to the jury later this month.
Court clerk Neli Raya said she expects the case willl be handed to the jury in about 2 1/2 weeks.

Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG Live, has said he expects to rest his case next Friday at the latest. Then each side could call rebuttal witnesses, and attorneys could argue over the instructions the judge will give the 12 jurors who have sat through the marathon.

While jurors have heard from financial experts, AEG executives, doctors and Jackson family members, none of the celebrities on the attorneys witness lists — Prince, Spike Lee, Quincy Jones and Diana Ross among them — have been called to testify.

The case revolves around the question of who controlled Dr. Conrad Murray, the cardiologist who administered the fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to Jackson at the singer's rented Holmby Hills home on June 25, 2009.

Jackson was preparing for a 50-concert comeback in London that was being promoted and produced by AEG. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and is serving a jail sentence.

The Jacksons say that AEG negligently hired and supervised Murray, while AEG says the singer hired him and that any money the entertainment firm was supposed to pay him was an advance.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-michael-jackson-case-20130904,0,7515986.story

Why would there be celebrities on the witness list? :suspect:

...and I'm guessing the nonsuit motion was denied?  :icon_e_confused:

[iLoveyoumore]

I don't know if I'm happy or sad this will end. Interesting to see who's going to win.
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