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People had better get use to Anonymous because I don’t think they are leaving anytime soon.  They are becoming notorious and don’t hide behind idle chatter.  When they strike, they go for the jugular.
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People had better get use to Anonymous because I don’t think they are leaving anytime soon.  They are becoming notorious and don’t hide behind idle chatter.  When they strike, they go for the jugular.

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That's one of the reasons that I won't be a follower of Anonymous.
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It's all for L.O.V.E.

Whether one follows them or not doesn’t seem to deter them once their minds are made up.  So…
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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I do not believe that this " law " sopa/pipa is only to protect copyright or against piracy, they want to control the entire content on the internet, the cursed position believe the policemen of the world
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I do not believe that this " law " sopa/pipa is only to protect copyright or against piracy, they want to control the entire content on the internet, the cursed position believe the policemen of the world

Paula - I believe you are right. But there is a fine line and it appears as though Anonymous is crossing them unafraid.
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Violence never resolves an issue. It is clever negociating and convincing that clears path.

You cannot go loot shops and distribute the goods you have stolen for free just because somebody had declared they wanted you to identify yourself the next time you wanna go shop.
Go tell them why it is nonsense to identify yourself in the future. Give them a reasoning with cost and profit, glue a price tag on the case with the names of blocked / consumed ressources, opportunity cost, required time, spent $$$ and you will see how many ideas will find their way back into a drawer or even better into storage S which is the shredder.

Salespersons think in terms of their customer not in their own range.
That's how they sell garbage and make you happy with it.
Understand your vis-à-vis and you will get them do what you want.
The best of class know what the customer wants before the customer wants it.
That's the art of it.

Clever beats power. Always.

Nobody is helpless unless he has lost feet, hands and brain.
Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 07:12:42 PM by Grace
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Maybe I'm ignorant of something here, but isn't it right that people should pay for entertainment in the way they did when they had to go off to the shops to buy 45s and videos? (Showing my age here!)

Technology and the internet should not allow people to get hold of stuff for free, someone, somewhere, has to pay and I suspect it's ultimately the artists that suffer.

I do agree with you, but I also see Anonymous's point...  I will not be downloading anything from the free torrants, mainly because I am too scared to. 

I just hope this action, proves a point, and shows that people do have a voice, and we do have power in numbers..................God bless to all.....Security sites have also been hacked....

One poster wrote this on his wall   "KILLUMINATI"

I do hope you all realize, that this group calling itself "Anonymous" is a bunch of Pirates. What they've done, is HARM the artists, by releasing their music for free!

They've also earned themselves multiple seats in Club Fed, for breaking countless Federal and Inter Country laws now. I have no love for them. Mark my words, they will be made an example of.
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This SOPA  thing has MORE TO DO WITH FREEDOM OF ALTERNATE INTERNET. Once again if the government can shut down the alternate sources of internet, & only control what they want you to know... period..... This whole music piracy thing is "smoke & mirrors" for what they REALLY want to do. They want to shut down internet & the president sees fit. Just put the "kill switch" out there, & there goes any other souce of alternate media. Remember the government owns almost media... including You Tube, so if there's videos out there government may feel you'll be standing up for your rights,.........they just have You Tube pull it. The government tried slapping piracy violations against some music companies, & shut down companies while being investigated, which turned out to be bogus claims, it was just the way government operates, always outside the law, all criminal activity seems to go away. Why do you think China is rebelling? They already have sensored internet. And they know they are being lied to, so they are trying to find other ways to get true information. That is what our government wants for us. More rights being taken away, shut down ALTERNATE SOURCE OF INFORMATION. The government wants American's to get news information from their "paid sources" like MSNBC, FOX NEWS, ETC..... how dare we look else where .... we shoudl just believe what they tell us......don't question authority.....start being dumb down....you can think for yourself.....
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This SOPA  thing has MORE TO DO WITH FREEDOM OF ALTERNATE INTERNET. Once again if the government can shut down the alternate sources of internet, & only control what they want you to know... period..... This whole music piracy thing is "smoke & mirrors" for what they REALLY want to do. They want to shut down internet & the president sees fit. Just put the "kill switch" out there, & there goes any other souce of alternate media. Remember the government owns almost media... including You Tube, so if there's videos out there government may feel you'll be standing up for your rights,.........they just have You Tube pull it. The government tried slapping piracy violations against some music companies, & shut down companies while being investigated, which turned out to be bogus claims, it was just the way government operates, always outside the law, all criminal activity seems to go away. Why do you think China is rebelling? They already have sensored internet. And they know they are being lied to, so they are trying to find other ways to get true information. That is what our government wants for us. More rights being taken away, shut down ALTERNATE SOURCE OF INFORMATION. The government wants American's to get news information from their "paid sources" like MSNBC, FOX NEWS, ETC..... how dare we look else where .... we shoudl just believe what they tell us......don't question authority.....start being dumb down....you can think for yourself.....


Yes!  This is also what I think, Paula mentioned this as well.  I really don't think 'they' care about how many people in the industry such as musicians, writers, actors and others working in the field are becoming poorer.


I'm wondering what's going to happen to Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and Kim Kardashian for their approval of Sopa, because they also have been warned that they're next (Operation Blackout and Mayhem).  (3rd video above)
Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 12:35:40 AM by MJonmind
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I think that fair use, when people say, use Youtube, and will either sing a favorite song, or use clips of a song, for real time things going on. Give them credit, and where to purchase the music. I also would feel better, if the person did pay the dollar for the song, so they aren't just pirating it blatantly.

Just seems to me, people have talent they'd love to share, and they could put out videos of it, and then sell the music of studio quality in Itunes, along with merchandise. But their songs are their money, and they need to protect what they can.

"Fair Use" needs to be defined, so children and grandparents don't get into trouble, posting births in their family, or showing pageants. Proud things done at school and church, shouldn't become something that the FBI comes after you for.

We need to come to the table, and talk about what is fair use, and what is blatant theft, what is comedy, etc.
But assaulting Sony's catalog and giving it away to whomever wants to download it, that violates untold amounts of laws, including people downloading to their individual computer, handing it over to friends, sharing hard drives, then finding better things to to with "their money," when it belongs to the artists it was just stolen from!! Just because a Pirate says, "Come and take it, I'm making a point," doesn't mean I went around in Mercedes with helicopters watching, as people walked off what they felt they were entitled to from Best Buy from the RIOTs! Within a few days, people felt so guilty, they lefts the items on the curb, for the police to please, take it away, it was a mistake and I'd gotten carried away, so sorry! Same mentality going on with Anonymous with songs right now. Give it back, don't take part of it! Don't give them any reason to do something so disgusting again!

I firmly believe that Anonymous SHOULD be held accountable for ALL the downloads they encouraged, while they were being Pirates! Disgusting display of Power!! I've been concerned about being online at all, as I don't want my computer absconded with, and used as part of this nightmare!

Musicians should be paid for their music, every time it's downloaded to be listened too! Artists are starving, the award shows are when they rent dresses and tuxedos, to look like what they used to all the time. Never meant they lived big, but at least they had a home and a car!!
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Black & Proud! I'm like the Oracle/Batgirl, who helps Batman in the comic books. I believe in "Comic Book justice."


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Musicians should be paid for their music, every time it's downloaded to be listened too! Artists are starving, the award shows are when they rent dresses and tuxedos, to look like what they used to all the time. Never meant they lived big, but at least they had a home and a car!!

I think that most of the general public (me included) only sees the glitz and glam and we aren't shown much of the struggle because that doesn't abode well with the "image" that is trying to be portrayed.

One thing that American Idol and X-Factor has done for me is awaken me to the fact that very few make it to a Michael Jackson or Diana Ross status. And fewer yet remain there. Most struggle to even be seen and some who are seen are only there for a very short time. It's a brutal life with little security.

In fact, look at the Jacksons if you need any more proof. At one time they were on top of the world and yet most of them struggled to make ends meet in the industry that fed them well when they were younger. Look at the acts in the Casino's and lounges - you'll notice that it's the stars of yester-year who were once able to fill arena's and now can barely fill a casino room.

It may be a smoke and mirror sort of demonstration but if it can't be done legally it shouldn't be done at all. That is just my humble opinion. I don't like censorship any more than the next person but I can't justify the means if it's done illegally.

When people download that music from Sony, one needs to remember that they are ultimately stealing from Michael and his heirs. He's worked hard for what he has - shouldn't he also reap the rewards? I think so.

As Marlon continues to say..."Study Peace".

Blessings to each of you.
Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 03:06:24 PM by voiceforthesilent
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The piracy of music, movies, etc.... sure it can be illegal. But this isn't what it's all about. SOPA will be affecting privacy of internet. Again, this is just the "calm" before the storm. It's about killing the internet, at when the Preseident sees people are learning to much about how corrrupt it is. The government has been invading music companies, raw milk company, natural vitamins, the list goes on & on. Anything the government can't make money off of, or something thats good for you, the government wants to shut it down.....more control, more control,more control........just like China.
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The piracy of music, movies, etc.... sure it can be illegal. But this isn't what it's all about. SOPA will be affecting privacy of internet. Again, this is just the "calm" before the storm. It's about killing the internet, at when the Preseident sees people are learning to much about how corrrupt it is. The government has been invading music companies, raw milk company, natural vitamins, the list goes on & on. Anything the government can't make money off of, or something thats good for you, the government wants to shut it down.....more control, more control,more control........just like China.

Amen!
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You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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People had better get use to Anonymous because I don’t think they are leaving anytime soon.  They are becoming notorious and don’t hide behind idle chatter.  When they strike, they go for the jugular.

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That's one of the reasons that I won't be a follower of Anonymous.
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I am not jumping on that wagon.
The issue is more complex. In the web and elsewhere, companies are not bad and individuals are not good - per se. There are two sides to the medal and it is not black or white but grey and darkgrey.

I do not agree that a whatever privately mixed youtube video with some underlaying music in only 80% quality is taken off the web or not authorized to be watched because "this and that has made copyright claims or did not agree to pay royalties". This is taking money for copies and not for the original and is exceeding common sense.
I also do not agree to include wikipedia e.g. into any royalties program. wikipedia is not a field to take / pay royalties since wikipedia is distributing common knowledge and is properly linking to origin and further information.

I however fully agree that there is NO way that artists and their distributing companies are not getting paid for their originals that are being distributed illegally. There is intellectual property and there is a right to protect this from abuse and rights' infringement. The web is no free space for everything and also google has lost many lawsuits already for infringement of personal rights.

Be careful to download. It is not only illegal in the U.S.
You might catch some malware in addition. Torrent sites are known for that.
Plus you never know who might be behind this and will store your IP address for whatever intention afterwards.

For me, it is a natural component of an upright attitude to not go for illegal activities.
Michael would not have undertaken all those efforts for the Motown catalogues and supported all those artists if he would not have known that the music business and living of their craft and talents has become very difficult for artists. Many can not live from creating music.
In fact, the music industry was much dependent on Michael's comeback because business is doing so bad due to illegal internet activies. I have read statements that were indicating that they put their hopes on Michael to turn the market around.

I am not jumping on that wagon and will buy my copies with my money.
Or else this music would not be worth anything, would it?

Great post, Grace. I fully agree.

I support Anonymous if their only intent is to prove a point but I can't when they go to the extreme of allowing people to download music and entertainment for free when it normally would be paid for. It's no different than a mob running through a street vandalizing stores and stealing their merchandise.

Blessings to all.
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Taaj Malik just posted this on facebook............ ARE YOU HEARING ME!!! 

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Probably better be quick or it may be gone soon......Good luck and OMG....quick...I need a big USB stick  /bravo/ /bravo/


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I'm going to make a huge point: The FEDS caught what, 16 people associated with Anonymous last year, and some are still ROTTING in jail, if I'm not mistaken, with $250,000 in fines EACH, along with facing 15 years EACH, for what they did to Sony, etc., and that's just FOR LAST YEAR: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Anonymous hackers WILL pay for what they did, AGAIN. They get no free ride.

For those who stood their ground, resisted temptation: You should be proud, for resisting Temptation. You all know how precious Artist's rights are. It doesn't matter whether you believe in any conspiracies, or anything. THEFT from any and all Artists, is THEFT.

You can't justify it, no matter how you slice it.

I'm rather sick that people can't stay on track - this thread was about OPEN THEFT on Sony's catalog, then people tried to turn it into SOPA. NO; read the HEADER.

By what Anonymous did, by people being WEAK and STEALING, opens the way to stricter regulations. This will be used AS an example, because of all the thieves.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

 

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