Nothing is by cooincidence-back post 11/5/2009

[bec]

Diaper fetish.

And there was a diaper on the "death bed".

And all this talk of condom catheters and urine bags.

mmhmm.

He kicked my ass off the forum for not dropping the subject that mjhd.com was part of the hoax. Well, "he". I wouldn't let it go for weeks at a time, as per my usual, but I couldn't get 3 words out about it in chat before they kicked me and my posts were removed of the forum. There was a zero tolerance policy on "questioning" "AMY", even though I was just questioning there was an Amy at all.That really pissed me off, lol.

I couldn't figure out why this SHOULDN'T be a topic of convo, it was so obvious something was up and that website almost had to be in on it, considering the timing and the content of the original blog and all, we SHOULD be talking about this. Not taking no for an answer on that one made me a target for the NEW mod crew backed by their shadowy, suspicious identity "ADMIN"...

mmhmm.

Maybe just crazy talk. We may never find out for sure.

It's really frustrating when you want to discuss a topic that you feel has value and you aren't allowed to. It really makes one wonder, "Why?".

Yeah you can you imaginary martyr. Just start a post<----for the thousandth time.

[anewfan]

Diaper fetish.

And there was a diaper on the "death bed".

And all this talk of condom catheters and urine bags.

mmhmm.

He kicked my ass off the forum for not dropping the subject that mjhd.com was part of the hoax. Well, "he". I wouldn't let it go for weeks at a time, as per my usual, but I couldn't get 3 words out about it in chat before they kicked me and my posts were removed of the forum. There was a zero tolerance policy on "questioning" "AMY", even though I was just questioning there was an Amy at all.That really pissed me off, lol.

I couldn't figure out why this SHOULDN'T be a topic of convo, it was so obvious something was up and that website almost had to be in on it, considering the timing and the content of the original blog and all, we SHOULD be talking about this. Not taking no for an answer on that one made me a target for the NEW mod crew backed by their shadowy, suspicious identity "ADMIN"...

mmhmm.

Maybe just crazy talk. We may never find out for sure.

It's really frustrating when you want to discuss a topic that you feel has value and you aren't allowed to. It really makes one wonder, "Why?".

Yeah you can you imaginary martyr. Just start a post<----for the thousandth time.

whatever that means......

[bec]

It means you have been told repeatedly, you are more then welcome to discuss whatever you want, just start your own thread instead of hijacking others.

[Sarah31]

Diaper fetish.

And there was a diaper on the "death bed".

You shouldn't start rumors like that, this is the first and only time I ever heard of a diaper on the bed.

And are you saying that Michael has a diaper fetish? It gets very tabloid-ish on here sometimes. Who's your source? Arnold Klein?

[bec]

Diaper fetish.

And there was a diaper on the "death bed".

You shouldn't start rumors like that, this is the first and only time I ever heard of a diaper on the bed.

And are you saying that Michael has a diaper fetish? It gets very tabloid-ish on here sometimes. Who's your source? Arnold Klein?

Incontinence pad=diaper. It's right there in the "death bed" pic. Along with the prayer beads and the tube of toothpaste. Hello.

[Sarah31]

Dear God, THAT? That's not unusal at all in this context, with giving general anesthesia and/or someone with a prostate problem. I don't see a "diaper fetish" there.

[bec]

Well then stop spreading rumors, Sarah31.

[Sarah31]

I didn't start any, you are the one claiming that Michael has a diaper fetish. That's totally something he wants to have connected to his name, I'm sure, a lot of crazy things have been said about him over the decades, why stop now.

[bec]

Lmao.

[voiceforthesilent]

Maybe I'm a little confused. I think that anewfan's post was misunderstood but maybe I'm wrong.

I might be seeing this wrong too but regarding the incontinence pad - if (and that's a big IF) Amy=MJ and Amy stated she had a diaper fetish then perhaps it's not really because there was a fetish at all but it was only said in order to connect Amy to MJ (the incontinence pad)? We already know that some things aren't meant for easy interpretation. Maybe this is one?

I think there has been discussion about prostate problems and incontinence pads and the autopsy report did not state anything out of the ordinary which (yes, I know - is it real) could confirm that the pad was not for prostate problems.

The truth will come out. All we need to do is be patient and keep our eyes open while we put the pieces together.

What is helpful for me is if someone can prove that the incontinence pad was truly there for health issues because I haven't seen any reason for it to be there, just like I haven't found any reason for the unopened tube of toothpaste to be on the bed either or the doll, for that matter. Come to think of it, there is still much that is unanswered, like that bloodied shirt in the closet with the price tag of 3.99. I know what's been explained on this forum, and it makes sense, but it amazes me that the family left it in the closet while clearing things out and the police didn't collect it as evidence. Why would MJ have that shirt in the closet?

Blessings

[bec]

I might be seeing this wrong too but regarding the incontinence pad - if (and that's a big IF) Amy=MJ and Amy stated she had a diaper fetish then perhaps it's not really because there was a fetish at all but it was only said in order to connect Amy to MJ (the incontinence pad)? We already know that some things aren't meant for easy interpretation. Maybe this is one?

That's exactly what I think.

And yes, IF. And it doesn't really matter who "AMY" actually was, just who was behind it.

[_Anna_]

Diaper fetish.

And there was a diaper on the "death bed".

And all this talk of condom catheters and urine bags.

mmhmm.

He kicked my ass off the forum for not dropping the subject that mjhd.com was part of the hoax. Well, "he". I wouldn't let it go for weeks at a time, as per my usual, but I couldn't get 3 words out about it in chat before they kicked me and my posts were removed of the forum. There was a zero tolerance policy on "questioning" "AMY", even though I was just questioning there was an Amy at all.That really pissed me off, lol.

I couldn't figure out why this SHOULDN'T be a topic of convo, it was so obvious something was up and that website almost had to be in on it, considering the timing and the content of the original blog and all, we SHOULD be talking about this. Not taking no for an answer on that one made me a target for the NEW mod crew backed by their shadowy, suspicious identity "ADMIN"...

mmhmm.

Maybe just crazy talk. We may never find out for sure.

The situation with the old board interests me a lot. I wasn't there to see with my eyes, so if you and the others like to share more, I'm glad.
First, do you really remember that the board was OK until August 3? Do you really remember the exact date? I understand it was the first time the board was shut down on August 3rd? But for what reason, just because someone posted a link to Amy's information?

About the diaper fetish you talk about- was Amy discussing about this? I mean you understand, was she talking about this BEFORE this was in the media? I remember the bed photo appeared soon in the media. What do you mean with diaper fetish? And catheters, urine bags discussion. It could be a thing if it was discussed BEFORE this hit the media and BEFORE others read this in media.

MJonmind, you say the same. Were you there and saw this too? BEFORE this diaper/catheters/urine bags story hit the media?

All I heard about this Amy was that she felt under attack with death threats and she was into diaper fetishes of all things! Now it is that fact ALONE that makes me suspicious that she could really have been our MJ (Doo-doo), without anyone realizing it.

[Tink]

Geez, they had one of those underneath me for 3 days at the hospital - looked like a puppy pad I put in the carriers for long trips. I felt it was there for hygiene, no one ever made a big deal of it, sheeesh!  :oops: Mine was still clean, when I left. Though at least in the hospital, they cover with a nice cotton QUILT, for comfort. I then had fluffy blankets, over sheet on me - only part that made the stay a bit tolerable.

OMG! THAT is what's wrong with this picture! Definitely set up, people - no one worth that kind of money would tolerate THAT against their skin! You gotta cover them with the quilt pads. Just totally inhumane, if really done to anyone.

Had a roommate, who used to encase his mattress with a giant waterproof cover, so none of this is making sense, when you take it apart, seriously.

Look at what's on the bed, as clues.

[MJonmind]

Anna, I really know nothing--it was over my head. I just heard there was a lot of fighting behind the scenes, backstabbing, people supposedly getting into Amy's private info, finding out about the diaper fetish. There were a lot of big long posts trying to explain about the situation and fights, but it was clear as mud.  What doesn't make sense is that if she had started that hoax site--was it the day of or even before June 25,09 (help anyone?), it must have been very important to her, and yet she suddenly decided to quit, and sell the domain to I'm assuming Badkolo.  Wouldn't she just plow through all that garbage if she really wanted to find answers about the hoax?  It all just seems very strange.  Also there was no talk about the Illuminati allowed, and TS has mentioned that as well, so it felt we were being restricted in discussing all possibilities. I'm thinking this Amy couldn't have been MJ, because right at that time the hoax was in progress, and he would have been too extremely busy to run that site.  I just don't know at all.   I'm sure Souza's been dealing with as much as this Amy was or more, and she hasn't given up, which we are very grateful for. bow/

[bec]

My answers to your questions are in blue.

Diaper fetish.

And there was a diaper on the "death bed".

And all this talk of condom catheters and urine bags.

mmhmm.

He kicked my ass off the forum for not dropping the subject that mjhd.com was part of the hoax. Well, "he". I wouldn't let it go for weeks at a time, as per my usual, but I couldn't get 3 words out about it in chat before they kicked me and my posts were removed of the forum. There was a zero tolerance policy on "questioning" "AMY", even though I was just questioning there was an Amy at all.That really pissed me off, lol.

I couldn't figure out why this SHOULDN'T be a topic of convo, it was so obvious something was up and that website almost had to be in on it, considering the timing and the content of the original blog and all, we SHOULD be talking about this. Not taking no for an answer on that one made me a target for the NEW mod crew backed by their shadowy, suspicious identity "ADMIN"...

mmhmm.

Maybe just crazy talk. We may never find out for sure.

The situation with the old board interests me a lot. I wasn't there to see with my eyes, so if you and the others like to share more, I'm glad.
First, do you really remember that the board was OK until August 3? Yes, all was well until 8/3/09. Do you really remember the exact date? Yes, I really do, because it was 40 days and 40 nights exactly that the board was open until the first crash. Additionally, we have the archives for the original forum up until 8/3/09. I understand it was the first time the board was shut down on August 3rd? But for what reason, just because someone posted a link to Amy's information? That's what Amy said. Always seemed like a silly reason to freak out and shut the whole thing down to me.

About the diaper fetish you talk about- was Amy discussing about this? No, Amy never discussed it. It was "discovered" when her personal information was posted, including the links, one was a link to her diaper fetish site. I mean you understand, was she talking about this BEFORE this was in the media? I remember the bed photo appeared soon in the media. NOTW posted the "death bed" pic on 8/2/09 but keep reading because it's more complicated then that as you'll see. What do you mean with diaper fetish? Don't ask me, such topics are not my area of expertice. I'm just repeating the information from memory. And catheters, urine bags discussion. It could be a thing if it was discussed BEFORE this hit the media and BEFORE others read this in media. Death Bed pic published 8/2/09, Amy's info posted and "discovered" 8/3/09. End of story you think? Not so fast, such a conspiracy STILL required forethought and planning, one of the links that was posted was to Amy's diaper fetish site that was in existence prior, with a member list and an active forum, and Miss Amy as acting Admin, with existing account information, etc. That was not set up in less then 24hrs.

MJonmind, you say the same. Were you there and saw this too? BEFORE this diaper/catheters/urine bags story hit the media?

All I heard about this Amy was that she felt under attack with death threats and she was into diaper fetishes of all things! Now it is that fact ALONE that makes me suspicious that she could really have been our MJ (Doo-doo), without anyone realizing it. Good point about Doo-Doo, MJonmind, that didn't occur to me but it's a forehead slapping DUH! moment. Urine bags and condom catheters and peeing in cups and all the other bathroom humor didn't make it onto the scene until many many months after forum wars were finally over. I was there for all of this that I describe, I did see it all with my own eyes, I am indeed an eye witness... but 8/3/09 was very early in my hoax career. I knew not to take screenshots and archive information. I was very inexperienced. End of story=I cannot prove any of this to you. This is my own personal experience. Take it how you want to.