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The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 15, 2011, 10:39:19 PM
Flickers of that recording of a 'conversation' (if you can call it that) supposedly between MJ and Conrad Murray come and go from my mind nowadays ever since I heard it on TV.

All I remember from it was a very, very slurred voice that I instantly....did not recognize as Michael's.


On my end, I just kinda went  WTF?? at it because the following questions went through my mi--

You know what? It's easier if I just do this:



1) How, why, and WHO recorded that conversation? I hear Murray recorded it using his phone. Okay, let's say he did: WHY? And what for?
To slap it on the net someday and go "LUUK!! LEIK MICHAEL'S ON DRUGZ!!1"?
Or perhaps to aid in the hoax, to feed the media "MJ the Drug Junkie" and give them what they want and put the hoax in motion and make this whole death more believable?


2) That deep, scratchy voice that's supposed to be MJ. "Slurred" doesn't even BEGIN to describe it. I know drugs can seriously mess you up and leave your faculties and ability to speak pretty much dilapidated, but.... I'll just say it: I'm sorry, that is NOT a drugged-up Michael Jackson.

THIS, however, (probably) is:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ZjncwWOlA[/youtube]

Mexico deposition, 1993.
If I recall correctly, Mike was... really out of it during that deposition, and I've heard it was from his addiction to painkillers around this time.
(And we know for a fact Michael suffered a LOT from that and has learned never, ever to touch drugs again since. Which brings me to a "He would let DRUGS kill him? Seriously?" rant I'll go on later. x.x)

THAT, is MJ on drugs.
The voice in the recording is just no comparison.
So low, so incoherent, so... not MJ.



3) Let's say it really was MJ in this present-day recording between him and Dr. Murray,
rambling on about building a children's hospital and about how his show will be so amazing he'll be the greatest entertainer in the world (but he already is <333) and then... he's 'asleep'.

No man who is messed up by drugs to THAT extent could move, dance, basically be a bolt of lightning like he did in TII -- which was, as we know, filmed about the same time as that recording was made (right?).
If you can't even speak clearly, there is no way you can have your faculties to make calculated, balanced moves that are required for dancing, singing and planning: clear mental processes, you see, are impossible for druggies of the extent that people claim MJ was.
And it's not like he could have been 'okay' to continue rehearsals within a few days of the recording if he had THAT kind of crap messing up his system that badly.


Am I the only one seeing the serious inconsistency there?



So when taking this into consideration, my next point is:



4) Could MJ and Murray have rehearsed this? (Or perhaps to MJ it was an act of his own, and Murray, if he is not in on the hoax, is just following along and providing believable "MJ was on drugs" testimony because he was there and heard this?)

The only realistic response I can give is bravo. He truly is a talented actor to mess his voice that way for the sake of making this hoax believable.






I haven't yet heard the beLIEvers' opinions on it, so speak up for a silly newbie, okay?  :mrgreen:
Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 03:00:01 AM by ForstAMoon
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 15, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
Simply put....the recording IS Michael!  He is changing his voice to play a part.  It really is that simple.
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 15, 2011, 11:10:43 PM
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Simply put....the recording IS Michael!  He is changing his voice to play a part.  It really is that simple.

You know what? I think so too.
That would absolutely blow me away.


Michael DOES have skills an actor.
You should've seen the OMGWTFBBQ!!1  fit I had when, many moons ago, I found out that Michael was the very UN-Michael-like Mayor in "Ghosts".  :lol:


"THAT chunky old white dude is Michael?!! GETOUTTAHERE D:"
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 15, 2011, 11:23:05 PM
 It is what it is.  I myself could change my voice the way Michael did as could most singers.  Forget acting for a second.  The man is a VOCALIST by trade......smellin what im cookin?
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 12:08:09 AM
In documentary Murray said this was Mike under Propofol recorded, am I correct?
In interview before documentary probably. It was first time I heard Murray saying it.
Well, not the he had a chance to say it before.
That "junkie speech" however is so complete and makes perfect sense. Read it, wow.
Murray says it was "accidentally recorded"  :roll:
It can be staged. Too complete you know. Very good item to show real caring Michael too.

OMG Mexico Michael sounds so much like Dave Dave on Larry King  :lol:
And wow, he sure remembers lots of stuff on painkillers! I don't remember
that many things when completely sober :mrgreen:
He doesn't look "too high!" to me at all. A bit slowed down maybe. He's so charming
even if on pills  :oops:
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 01:43:12 AM
I think MJ had some dental work done in Mexico City so he was taking some pain meds for the abcessed tooth he had drained and pulled. The lawyers insisted he give that deposition but he had to take something for the pain. If anyone has ever had an abcessed tooth, ( I have), you know it's very painful even after the tooth is removed.
Of couse it becomes proof he was an addict, but it was something very common
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 02:07:07 AM
Just a quick comment about the Mexico deposition vid - yes, MJ had just had oral surgery (been there, done that myself), as is explained in the conversation, and would almost certainly be taking painkillers at this time (had my fair share of that too) but that doesn't make him a druggie or drugged-up. Any slurred speech you hear is down to his painful mouth - his mind, for the most part, is sharp and focused. BTW, I love listening to him describing how he composes songs, so thanks, jujubii,  for posting the link and giving me an excuse to listen and watch again!
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 02:30:14 AM
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It is what it is.  I myself could change my voice the way Michael did as could most singers.  Forget acting for a second.  The man is a VOCALIST by trade......smellin what im cookin?

I agree. It is amazing how he can change his voice.
Yesterday I was watching Ghosts again and I do not know who is the mayor's voice. Is it Michael's voice? I do not know.
Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 03:00:58 AM by ForstAMoon
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 03:51:21 AM
The mayor's voice is Michael's voice, isn't it? I am not sure.
Anybody knows?
Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 03:55:34 AM by GINAFELICIA
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 08:42:41 AM
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The mayor's voice is Michael's voice, isn't it? I am not sure.
Anybody knows?



Yes, Gina! That is not only Michael's body under that costume, it is indeed his voice.
Listen very carefully - you can hear his 'accent'.  ;))
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 09:01:29 AM
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The mayor's voice is Michael's voice, isn't it? I am not sure.
Anybody knows?
Yes, Gina! That is not only Michael's body under that costume, it is indeed his voice.
Listen very carefully - you can hear his 'accent'.  ;))
Ok so that's proof that he can change his voice up to the point that few people would suspect it is him speaking.
Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 09:03:56 AM by GINAFELICIA
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 09:46:41 AM
I also Wonder for what purpose it was recorded. So, Murray saß it was accidentally. Die you Everest Record anything accidentally? I did. And the Recording startes just somewhere in the Middle of a sentence, After a while:" oops recording is on" and it suddenly stops again..            Murrays tape is to straight and clean. Sounds like being started intentionally and stored at a strategic Place to get a good Recording.                                                                                                                                                           
I am working in a Medical Job, the patients I heard talking while falling asleep under narcotic Treatment , they never talked that much, in complete grammatically correct sentences.
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 10:06:58 AM
off topic: at 7:21 he says that he is the source   ;)
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 10:09:48 AM
It was staged, when MJ starts by saying "Elvis didn't do it, Beatles didn't do it, we have to be phenomenal" I believe PearlJr mentioned it too but Im guessing it refers to Elvis and McCartney not coming back from a faked death. And furthered my belief that the comeback is still a major part of his plans, no doubt. Maybe it was purposed for a hidden message or who knows. But its def. MJ, not a fake
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Re: The "I Am Asleep" Recording: What the--?
November 16, 2011, 10:14:08 AM
BTW sorry for wrong typing but s@@@ happens when you type on an iPhone bangbang
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