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I want to ask again, is there anyone who supports the FBI involvement theory who can list 12 reasons/evidences for the theory?I'm stuck on #1. 333 pages in 7 files released by FBI on 12/21/09. And that's where the list runs dry for me. Anyone want to help?
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginI want to ask again, is there anyone who supports the FBI involvement theory who can list 12 reasons/evidences for the theory?I'm stuck on #1. 333 pages in 7 files released by FBI on 12/21/09. And that's where the list runs dry for me. Anyone want to help?[back in time mode on] Don't know if this helps: the leaves in the ambulance photo were shopped in. We discussed the leaves were pointing to the FBI logo and involvement. If I recall correctly, these leaves showed up on the outside of an ambulance drawer. [back in time mode off]If the leaves were shopped in (= artificially added) and don't have any other meaning than just adding reflections, making a photo more lively and driving us crazy at the time searching an impact where there was none, then the FBI notion may be out just to test our drawers.
FBI Special Agent in Charge in Phoenix, James Turgal, front, arrives at U.S. District Court
JetBlue pilot Clayton Frederick Osbon, right, is escorted to a waiting vehicle by FBI agents
Mayor Mack under arrest being transferred to federal court by FBI Agents.
U.S. Attorney Jim Letten exits Federal Court to announce that former Plaquemines Parish sheriff JIff Hingle pleaded guilty to a count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and bribery, Wednesday, November 30, 2011. With Letten are, David W. Welker, FBI, Special Agent in Charge, left and Matt Chester, Assistant U.S. Attorney, right.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginI just simply can't believe you guys are actually depressed and confused :icon_eek: :suspect: :animal0017: WTF!? :animal0017: I guess I am the only one happy here, as I said in my long reply here to TS posts, to me there are many things that I understand better now, yet there are still some unclear things! mostly due to the FBI involvement and to the fact that as TS himself said it: not even MJ knows everything that happened "that day"!So what more do you want? It's very clear! We won't have ALL the answers regarding what exactly happened on June 25th! So what!??That doesn't change the fact that Michael is alive and he's gonna BAM sooner or later by January 2013!Come on guys cheer up!!We've even had Front & TS acknowledging themselves on this same thread!! With TS blatantly telling us that Front = MJ!!Isn't that reason enough to PARTY!!?? :penguin: :multiplespotting: :beerchug:you said/wrote it right Sim, there is no reason to be sad, confused or in depression. It is not over yet! we are not in the end of hoax tunnel, some time still lefts..please be patient and we will see the result of Michael`s master plan.
I just simply can't believe you guys are actually depressed and confused :icon_eek: :suspect: :animal0017: WTF!? :animal0017: I guess I am the only one happy here, as I said in my long reply here to TS posts, to me there are many things that I understand better now, yet there are still some unclear things! mostly due to the FBI involvement and to the fact that as TS himself said it: not even MJ knows everything that happened "that day"!So what more do you want? It's very clear! We won't have ALL the answers regarding what exactly happened on June 25th! So what!??That doesn't change the fact that Michael is alive and he's gonna BAM sooner or later by January 2013!Come on guys cheer up!!We've even had Front & TS acknowledging themselves on this same thread!! With TS blatantly telling us that Front = MJ!!Isn't that reason enough to PARTY!!?? :penguin: :multiplespotting: :beerchug:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginA DWD patient ended their own life and was not the victim of manslaughter, therefore they are an "alleged victim"of manslaughter. Since there was no manslaughter there also was no date for manslaughter to occur on... ...therefore it is an "alleged" date.Yes, Adi...that makes perfect sense. TS had asked us to think of what was alleged and what wasn't. It makes sense that anything following the charge of manslaughter, which wasn't alleged, would have to be 'alleged' since there was no victim of manslaughter and no manslaughter took place on June 25th. It also makes perfect sense that if the trial was only for a movie/entertainment purposes, there would've been absolutely no need to include the use of 'alleged' in the verdict.
A DWD patient ended their own life and was not the victim of manslaughter, therefore they are an "alleged victim"of manslaughter. Since there was no manslaughter there also was no date for manslaughter to occur on... ...therefore it is an "alleged" date.
I think the "popcorn"-.gif was a reaction of Front, because we wrote 3 or 4 pages full of comments, that we were so excited for TS' post. NOT that he was smiling about a (possible) DWD patient.
There was an entire level dedicated to FBI involvement and also one devoted to hoax vs. sting court. Anyone is free to take a look back [. . . . ] There's been so many contributions by so many members here that keep getting ignored/overlooked (at best)....intentionally belittled with veiled insults (at worst)...that have addressed these very points. [ . . . ]TS provided 12 points in support of the DWD theory...addressing many of the objections... but the same objections keep being brought up. So what's the point?Again, for anyone genuinely interested in gaining a better understanding or different perspective...the forum is FULL of resources.These repeated insinuations that 'people suddenly started believing/supporting the corpse theory' or that 'TS just started supporting the corpse theory' or 'dropped the DWD bomb'...are not only flat-out false (anyone who's been here awhile knows this) but they are also bordering on offensive because the underlining insinuation is that ONLY those NOT supporting the corpse theory have thought for themselves. The members of this forum---both past and present---deserve much more respect than they are being shown. Not to mention the fact that REGARDLESS of what happened on June 25th, making light of ANY DWD patient's death or the circumstances surrounding their death and/or choices....is offensive and lacks tact and class.End of rant...With L.O.V.E. always.
There was an entire level dedicated to FBI involvement and also one devoted to hoax vs. sting court. Anyone is free to take a look back at the MANY posts by MANY members who either supported the theories or rejected them...it's all there for anyone interested. [....]
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginWhy does FBI involvement automatically mean MJ was/is in danger and they were there for his protection, as some are saying here?1. There are recordings posted on Youtube with Michael saying he was afraid for his life, in various occasions.2. There are videos on Youtube with members of Michael's family saying countless times that there was a conspiracy against him, that "they were trying to murder him".If you don't believe Michael and his family, then WHO do you believe?3. TS stressed on the Illuminati theory for a reason! That means those people were infiltrated in his entourage from the music industry, trying to get his catalog/fortune/Neverland by all means!!4. Michael was framed for those 2 trials!! If "they" were capable of doing that, do you guys seriously doubt that 'they" would hesitate to murder him ??5. Do you think the FBI just sat on those false allegations and did NOTHING? Do you think they had so many files on Michael just for nothing?? It was said in those files his life was in danger!! It is said on those files that they had found nothing to incriminate Michael!!How on Earth you can doubt that his life was in danger??Do you think the FBI would get involved in Michael's hoax, just to have some fun!?? of course there was a SERIOUS MOTIVE!! Life threatening IS a serious motive!! + Financial fraud!! which most of the music industry sharks did to Michael!6. And then...don't forget about ELVIS !!! Michael wasn't the only one to have received help from the FBI to fake his death to save his life!! Elvis and his family have received numerous death threats too prior to 1977!!
Why does FBI involvement automatically mean MJ was/is in danger and they were there for his protection, as some are saying here?
I think the popcorn gif was just acknowledgment (by means if humor) of the huge level of suspense or anxiousness that was obviously present on the forum while everyone waited for the TS post. I thought it was funny as hell and I'm still not sure why some feel it necessary to try and over analyze the post to make it seem macabre in any way. You all should know by now that Michael or anyone that's working with him in this would never make light of another persons passing...regardless of the timing.