TIAI November 11 (11-11-11)

[curls]

If you say there's no way we can learn what happened without Michael, then why TS opened this thread??

I don't know. I don't know why he did any of the levels. There must be some purpose I am not understanding right now.

To train our brains?
To keep us here and occupied?
To 'test' us?
To prove to himself that the hoax can't be proved (with what has been presented to the world), and therefore the great illusion was totally successful?

[_Anna_]

If you say there's no way we can learn what happened without Michael, then why TS opened this thread??

I don't know. I don't know why he did any of the levels. There must be some purpose I am not understanding right now.

This is what I think too, but since too long already. Without Michael nothing can be explained. Without having Michael back here with us,  I'll never understand what happened. I can only suppose. Nothing is clear

[applehead250609]

If you say there's no way we can learn what happened without Michael, then why TS opened this thread??

I don't know. I don't know why he did any of the levels. There must be some purpose I am not understanding right now.

To train our brains?
To keep us here and occupied?
To 'test' us?
To prove to himself that the hoax can't be proved (with what has been presented to the world), and therefore the great illusion was totally successful?

Good point Curls  albino/ !!! To keep us occupied with what the RIGHT HAND ,meantime the LEFT HAND did everything.The Illusion was perfect and we still don't know a DAM THING,lol  lolol/ .We are BACK from where we came from: 25 june 2009,NADA,ZERO.The Illusionist wins and we the audience are like WTF  WTF?? had just happened  :? ? Was THIS even REAL  geek/  :lol:

[sigh]

To train our brains?
To keep us here and occupied?
To 'test' us?
To prove to himself that the hoax can't be proved (with what has been presented to the world), and therefore the great illusion was totally successful?

Because he himself doesn't know what happened, therefore the reason he hasn't concluded the level 7, no matter how much you guys have tried to help ?

[MJonmind]

curls

To prove to himself that the hoax can't be proved (with what has been presented to the world), and therefore the great illusion was totally successful?

Good guess! :lol:

[reveron1958]

If you say there's no way we can learn what happened without Michael, then why TS opened this thread??

I don't know. I don't know why he did any of the levels. There must be some purpose I am not understanding right now.

I am currently feeling a bit sick that I have been 'wasting' my time reading long confusing posts and trying to understand everything, when I should really have been improving my website, designing more products, spending more time with Mother, helping my sons with their problems, keeping my house cleaner and making nicer meals for my family.   pale/

Hope to feel more positive tomorrow.  :?

[voiceforthesilent]

Anyone remember this old post:

It was a really sunny day in LA and we were riding to Malibu Beach when our friend called and told us Michael Jackson died 5 minutes ago! We happened to be right next to UCLA medical center where he was taken right after his cardiac arrest. We snuck into the UCLA Medical Center building. We went in the back door, up the elevator, back down, and out the front door, where the UCLA Medical staff, fire men, and security guards were creating a decoy scene of his body being taken away to distract the media. We walked through the chaos and saw two choppers leave and realized that they may have taken him out the back door. We were totally shocked and saddened to loose not one but two legends of our generation in the same day! We left and went to Malibu, listening to Michael Jackson songs on every radio station the whole way, celebrating Michael and Farrah’s lives and appreciating ours!

MJHDI.com

Heartsong - thank you for your efforts.

I do remember reading this story - very interesting that they were allowed to go through the back, up and down elevators and through the front without someone redirecting them. I say this because if there was so much effort from security, etc., to cause a distraction wouldn't they be aware of who was wandering the halls?

I found this and thought I'd post it because the timeline is off. This is from someone else who was there for an appointment that day.

Postby ILuvUMoreMJ » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:51 am
I remember reading that before, probably on the old board. These people below say that they didn't evacuate the building MJ was in...they direct the post at us hoaxers and ask us not to post the link to their blog, so I'll just copy what they said...

Thursday, June 25, 2009
A very interesting follow up at UCLA today...

PLEASE READ: If you have made your way to this website via "Michael Jackson Death Hoax" dot com, please know that the administrator at that website has used this post to support incorrect information. The fire alarm that is discussed below was for the 200 Medical Center Building in the Peter Morton Center. This building is next door to the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center Hospital where Michael Jackson did in fact die on June 25, 2009. The hospital did not have a fire drill, nor was it ever evacuated during the time that the Jackson family was there. It was later determined that the fire alarm at the 200 building was pulled by a paparazzi to create a distraction so he/she could sneak into the hospital. I have tried to find a contact or an e-mail for the administrator at the Michael Jackson Death Hoax website but conveniently for him or her, one cannot be found. If the administrator reads this, please correct your post and remove your link to this website. If you don't, I will make a formal complaint to Wordpress about your site.

Today I had another follow up appointment with my oncologist at UCLA, and while there, Brett and I got caught in the middle of the Michael Jackson media frenzy regarding his death in the building next to the one we were in. What a sad loss at only age 50.

The day started routine, I arrived a little late for my 12:30 blood draw. Because the results take an hour, Brett and I walked into Westwood to Chili's for lunch. This was a good 3 block walk for me and I'm getting stronger. Apparently, while eating at Chili's, Michael Jackson, the King of Pop, was brought to UCLA Medical Center by ambulance in Cardiac Arrest around 1:00. As we walked back to my 1:30 appointment, Brett and I noticed a helicopter that was hovering the hospital and seemed out of of place since it wasn't landing. Once we got in and into our waiting room for my doctor, we jumped onto WiFi to read in the news what was going on. We couldn't believe we were right there. As we waited, we heard the news of Michael Jackson's death via Twitter. The helicopter sounds grew, and we were curious what was building outside. The nurses weren't really confirming anything, but it was obvious some were in the know.

After waiting almost two hours (my oncologist was fitting me in) we finally got to the exam with my doctor. My rash is healing, and the pain I am feeling and describing is my entire body growing a new layer of skin. She said two more weeks and I should be through the worst of it. She was very pleased with how I was healing, and my White Blood Cell counts, Hemoglobin and Platelets couldn't be more normal - I could donate platelets now if they'd let me! And then as we were about to get to some bigger questions, a fire alarm went off. We had to evacuate the building with the doctors and nurses and stand outside as the media frenzy was growing regarding Michael Jackson. I think a Paparazzi probably pulled the alarm as a distraction. Still, we had to wait for the fire truck and the all clear, within yards of the entrance to the hospital where Michael Jackson was.

In fact, after the little fire alarm, we found out that one of the nurses (the one who takes my vitals) was approached by a young black man as we were waiting for the all clear. He told her his name was Jermaine Jackson, Jr. and he needed help finding the entrance to the hospital, so she escorted him. She was just a few feet away, and we missed it! Once we got the "all clear", we went back in to finish my appointment. At that point, a lot of the nursing staff was confirming that Michael Jackson had indeed passed away. Not sure if we knew ahead of everyone else, but it was still shocking news to say the least. The good news about the rest of my appointment: I am still cancer free, and I no longer need to have blood draws at home! Yay!

Once our appointment was done, it was around 4:30, and Brett and I started to leave, hearing that streets had been closed and we may run into problems. When we got outside, we couldn't believe the change. Seven satellite TV trucks lined up and thousands of people with flowers, signs, etc. We decided that since we were thrust into the middle of it, we may as well get a couple of cell phone photos. It was amazing, it was almost like within an hour, thousands of people were there at the hospital. Here are the two photos I managed to take on my cell phone:

And of course, we had some more drama. As we tried to cross the street to take photos, I tripped over my flip flop and skinned up my arm and leg. It happened right in front of two paramedics and they did nothing. They must have thought I was some Michael Jackson fanatic. Brett was hoping to get interviewed so he could say, "Michael who?" He has such a sense of humor! We went back to oncology where they patched me up, and then we were finally on the way home.

We made it out of the parking the "back way" on Gayley very easily and hit some traffic on the way home. It was a long, strange day. But lots of good news amongst the sad news in Hollywood with Farrah and Michael. I hope they rest in peace.

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So, this person had an appointment there that day and this is the timeframe according to them:

12:30 - blood draw
after 12:30 - walked to a nearby restaurant
1:00  - While eating they heard Michael was taken to UCLA
1:30 - walked back (3 blocks) to UCLA for the appointment
after 1:30 - helicopter was hovering overhead and seemed out of place since it wasn't landing
after 1:30 - Once inside got onto WiFi and read that Michael had died via Twitter
           Helicopter sounds grew. Some nurses were obviously "in the know"
waited two hours for their appointment....(would put it around 3:30 PM)
after 3:30 - fire alarm went off. Had to evacuate building (they were in building next to hospital). They think Paps pulled fire alarm as a distraction. Had  to wait for all clear.

Jermaine Jr shows up at hospital (around 3:30 pm???)

Once allowed back in after fire alarm - nurses were confirming that MJ had died.

They notice "7" satellite TV trucks line up.

[AnaMarcia]

To train our brains?
To keep us here and occupied?
To 'test' us?
To prove to himself that the hoax can't be proved (with what has been presented to the world), and therefore the great illusion was totally successful?

Because he himself doesn't know what happened, therefore the reason he hasn't concluded the level 7, no matter how much you guys have tried to help ?

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is very... very possible, for me now!  /bravo/

[PureLove]

To train our brains?
To keep us here and occupied?
To 'test' us?
To prove to himself that the hoax can't be proved (with what has been presented to the world), and therefore the great illusion was totally successful?

Because he himself doesn't know what happened, therefore the reason he hasn't concluded the level 7, no matter how much you guys have tried to help ?

I'm 100% sure that TS knows what happened, how happened and why happened. And there is a good reason why he hasn't concluded level 7 yet. Probably level 7 is going to be concluded after the BAM. I have full trust in him. And we will be learning soon. This is the final silence before the big storm which is BAM in our case. That's how I feel.

[simalves]

To train our brains?
To keep us here and occupied?
To 'test' us?
To prove to himself that the hoax can't be proved (with what has been presented to the world), and therefore the great illusion was totally successful?

Because he himself doesn't know what happened, therefore the reason he hasn't concluded the level 7, no matter how much you guys have tried to help ?

I'm 100% sure that TS knows what happened, how happened and why happened. And there is a good reason why he hasn't concluded level 7 yet. Probably level 7 is going to be concluded after the BAM. I have full trust in him. And we will be learning soon. This is the final silence before the big storm which is BAM in our case. That's how I feel.

Me too! I think all will be revealed soon enough - post BAM. As to expecting the BAM date, I am sure that there have been many days that Michael wished he could have bammed, but since this whole scheme is so elaborate and the pie is not done yet (Especially if it is a sting and that is not complete) it might be taking longer than originally envisioned. When you realise that this is just not a movie or an entertainment product - you will understand that no one can decide just when everything will fall into place and it will be safe for Michael to return. I think more than us, his family and close friends must be eagerly waiting for BAM day too and most importantly MJ too.

[BeTheChange]

"The value would be greater,
 
you let it rumble,
 
let it stay open,

let it close in silence."

Silence often does speak louder than words.  Here's to hoping that we're in the 'closing' stretch

My bottle's been chillin' on faith...and it's ice cold.

With L.O.V.E. always.

[StrangerInCalifornia]

"The value would be greater,
 
you let it rumble,
 
let it stay open,

let it close in silence."

Silence often does speak louder than words.  Here's to hoping that we're in the 'closing' stretch

My bottle's been chillin' on faith...and it's ice cold.

With L.O.V.E. always.

Ha! I like that quote

[GINAFELICIA]

Look you guys, we've been reading TS for 2 years now.
I think TS proved he/she is a very intelligent person, I would dare to say the best of us in analyzing this hoax and reaching conclusions.
I find it hard to believe TS (TIAI - STUDY BTW) would be so careless to make a promise like the one in this thread knowing from the beginning he/she wouldn't be able to complete, unless TS wanted to make his/her exit this way and had no intention to ever come back here.

[Shining light]

No sense pretending its over
Hard times just don't go away
You gotta take that chip off your shoulder
It's time you open up
Have some faith

Nothing good ever comes easy
All good things come in due time
Yes it does
You gotta have something to believe in
I'm telling you to open your mind

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
Gotta put it all on the line

You see yourself in the mirror
And you don't like what you see
And things aren't getting much clearer
Don't you think it's time you go for a change, oh

Don't waste your time on the past, no, no
It's time you look to the future, oh
It's all right there if you ask
This time if you try much harder
You'll be the best that you can be

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna get it right Gotta put it all on the line

If you wanna make it right If you're gonna do it now
You gotta learn to try
You can make it work somehow
Let love come free
And that's just so easy now
You gotta go for what you want
You gotta do what you got to do

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right Gotta put it all on the line
"Sometimes just reading everyone's post in here i wonder how strong peoples faith really is!" We just may be being tested to see how strong our belief really is,it is easy to say you believe something but how easy it is to change your mind even though we are given hope with new clues all the time every time someone expects this to end and it does not,anger,doubt and disappointment take the forefront. How strong is faith really, I have enough already to ride me till the end and I hope everyone will be there as well.Even though i know many are disappointed right now I have faith they will be there in the end as well,no matter how long it takes god bless everyone. peace and love to all.

[bec]

Look you guys, we've been reading TS for 2 years now.
I think TS proved he/she is a very intelligent person, I would dare to say the best of us in analyzing this hoax and reaching conclusions.
I find it hard to believe TS (TIAI - STUDY BTW) would be so careless to make a promise like the one in this thread knowing from the beginning he/she wouldn't be able to complete, unless TS wanted to make his/her exit this way and had no intention to ever come back here.

I would agree except for this that everyone needs to remember; TS has said 2012 is the year [for Bam] on multiple occasions. Paris reiterated this statement on Twitter with her 2012 dinosaur post if you'll recall.

I am at a complete loss as to why TS did what you mentioned, trapped himself in a promise like that---> 11/29 finish of Level 7---> a promise he apparently broke. THAT'S the part that I must be misunderstanding, a little help would be appreciated, otherwise I am left having to come to my own conclusions on it.

So it's not at all that I expected Bamsday... well perhaps revealing just to us on 11/30, but not the world (we have no credibility, we are the death hoax nuts, so revealing to us only would be *perfectly* safe). But I did, and I think reasonably so, expect that TS was going to share some truth with us regarding the "whys" of the hoax [sting/court/FBI involvement], as he suggested strongly in his Level 7 posts.