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Anybody having the EXIF data of the "fire in fireplace" room heating picture? Was it the same room at all?When was it taken? In advance or at the exact time the CPR was being performed (and who would have a camera at hand at such a moment ...) or after everybody had left the house? When family was moving stuff out?We have learned that a picture is NO proof of anything, haven't we?We have learned that a statement of no matter who is NO proof of anything, haven't we?The whole hoax has been a structured publishing series of sessions that made up a movie in our mind.These sequences in our mind make it so difficult to put ourselves into a movie production scenario.Actors only know the script but don't know what the movie will look like because they shoot sequences in production-conform timing, not in movie-conform timing. It doesn't matter how a movie is being shot as long as the director has a plan to put the pieces together afterwards.We did not even get a script beforehand despite our important role in this play.That's why everything is so confusing and so hard to debunk.As to all pictures, videos, interviews, contradicting witness testimonies and each and every paper in tabloids or overheads presented in the trial: there has been a line of garbage bins on June 25, 2009 and ever since we were given additional garbage bins. I have not counted them, but there were many. I do not consider any of those presented materials or statement as valid, truthful or giving reality in any glimpse.I have thrown everything that got life as "evidence" into a garbage bin that has become quite full now and is about to go to the dump. Most of what was presented was a means to make it part of the illusionary building and not to give the truth. Prop on the stage that was broadened to the world.If we take away the veil of all that has been poured over us since 2+ years, there is little that remains and it is this:Michael disappeared (must not have been on the 25th even).Carolwood house was used as a stage.An ambulance was called and drove away to UCLA.A circus broke loose where some prepared material and distribution channels were used to induce an avalanche of imagination, speculation and illusion. Ever since, Michael has bought time to do what he intended.I cannot take the picture of the fireplace serious as evidence since there is no proof it was showing the right room at the right time. Whether another one died that day, a corpse or a dummy was in the house, who or what was put on the stretcher before leaving to UCLA, who or what arrived there, who or what was being treated or not treated there, who or what left with the heli, who or what arrived at the Coroner and who or what left the Coroner - all of this depends on the motivations, overall goal and objectives of the play. These we do not know as we are not MJ nor do we know whether there was a sting or not against whom. Obviously we are not only speculating but also phantasizing, at least this was mentioned.So in order to not speculate or phantasize, I am going to call the garbage collection service now.Btw. Michael knew a sober approach would happen sooner or later. Or else he would have had a hole in his plan. Still I believe that we did a great job so far, taking into consideration what we had to deal with. Proud of the family here.It's the journey not the target.
And who is this video of the bodyguards celebrating among them? If i remember correctly that video was recorded from the top and someone who was inside the house, it is no fans
all indicate that the face is actually someone walking on the far side of the stretcher.
P.S. The Murray being MJ in disguise sure was fun while it lasted (I can hear PureLove gloating as I type )
She'll probably feel a little foolish post BAM for talking about MJ perving at her butt all over the television in the weeks after the illusion went live, along with so many others who came out of the woodwork to capitalize on their association with MJ.
The whole hoax has been a structured publishing series of sessions that made up a movie in our mind. These sequences in our mind make it so difficult to put ourselves into a movie production scenario. Actors only know the script but don't know what the movie will look like because they shoot sequences in production-conform timing, not in movie-conform timing. It doesn't matter how a movie is being shot as long as the director has a plan to put the pieces together afterwards.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuoteMJ is really dead at the moment BUT will resurect....and people say believers are delusional :roll: :roll: :roll:...good night bearhugi know but i think it's a theorie maybe crazy of course! OMG i just really think that MJ IS Archangel Michael if you just explore this theorie and make your own opinion WITHOUT using Bible and religions! you could probably be driven to the same idea .
QuoteMJ is really dead at the moment BUT will resurect....and people say believers are delusional :roll: :roll: :roll:...good night bearhug
MJ is really dead at the moment BUT will resurect.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuoteMJ is really dead at the moment BUT will resurect....and people say believers are delusional :roll: :roll: :roll:...good night bearhugi know but i think it's a theorie maybe crazy of course! OMG i just really think that MJ IS Archangel Michael if you just explore this theorie and make your own opinion WITHOUT using Bible and religions! you could probably be driven to the same idea .in my opinion, there are so many things that are going with this Archangel Michael theory..one year ago I found out that 29 th August is day when Archangel Michael is celebrated...which is also Michael Jacksons birthday..maybe coincidence, but it is interesting..
As for everything else, I don't care if there was a corpse, a mummy, shrek or a goat on that stretcher; I think this chapter just needs to close already >.
You all are my heroes!!! I don't know where you get time and power to do your research and post your thoughts! Thank you so much for everything! bow/TS i am not lazy (at least that's what i think :lol:) I really have no time to read all 44 pages of this thread, but today i did my best and i have a couple of things to add. If this has been already said, please feel free to delete my post. Again i'm sorry for not reading the entire thread! :oops:As i understand right now we are on 7b, who/what if anything went to UCLA.I saw here someone asked question do we know if Dr. Cooper and Dr. Nguyen actually real doctors and they work in UCLA? I think that i found the answer. They both are real doctors and they work in UCLA. Dr. Cooper You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Dr. Nguyen You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginAs far as i know they are the only doctors who testified from UCLA, which is weird, because Dr. Cooper testified that at least other 14 nurses and doctors were in the emergency room working on Michael on June 25th. Why would they help Michael? (i think that nothing or a dummy went to UCLA) From the book written by J. Randy Taraborrelli we can see that Michael was connected with UCLA and medicine in general since 80's. "The peculiar idea came to Michael during the time, after his burn accident, when he had become fascinated with medicine. He'd become a ravenous reader of medical books and enjoyed reading and hearing about dreadful diseases. for a while, he also became obsessed with learning about different surgeries, going so far as to witness operations at UCLA Medical Center. 'Michael's curious about surgery,' said one former associate. 'he gets off on it. he can watch for hours. He especially likes to watch plastic surgeries - tummy tucks, liposuction, he's into all of that. He has even witnessed brain surgeries." It means that he had some VERY good ties in UCLA, because they won't just let any random person to witness surgeries and he wasn't even a medical student. Plus UCLA can be used as a location for shooting movies, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. I think only these two doctors were more than enough to let in on it at UCLA. All blood and other tests were conducted under different name (Trauma Gershwin) as well as he was registered under this name in the hospital. The rest of emergency staff could see that something is going on but security could easily not let them in the emergency room where they were supposedly trying to save Michael.