TIAI November 11 (11-11-11)

Started by TS_comments, November 11, 2011, 03:11:15 AM

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And now (drum roll) ... we are at the final level—level number 7!  (7 represents completion).  Now it's time to take everything that we have learned so far (in the previous levels, etc), and put the last few pieces of the puzzle into place.

This is the final frontier for the hoax; the "when's" and "why's" have already been thoroughly established, especially through the numerology—and more than a year has gone by, without anyone even making a serious attempt to claim the $999 reward.  Therefore, the only frontier left is the "how's" of the hoax, which is exactly what we have been going through in the levels; and this is the last of the levels, therefore we are now entering the conclusion of the final frontier—THIS IS IT!

The previous levels were not a waste, because without them we would not be where we are now.  Much of the research has already been done, and some of the pieces have already come together (just like the picture above); but we still have a few major areas that need completed (just like the picture above).  As I have said already, the minor details on the "how's" are not very important (and may never been fully understood); however, for more than one reason, the major aspects of the "how's" should be resolved.

For example, level 3 never really got resolved (who or what, if anything, went to UCLA in the ambulance?).  I am confident that this will be resolved, though, before the end of level 7.  Another major area, that keeps popping up unresolved, is the idea that the ambulance was at Carolwood and UCLA on some day other than 6-25-09; and closely related is the fairly common idea that two or more ambulances were used (supposedly different lettering, reflector, wrong shadows, etc).

There are quite a few such theories floating around, and they all need to be thoroughly debunked for once and for all—so that we can see the simplicity of doing everything as real as possible, other than the very few things that required otherwise (such as the ambulance photo).  There would be no need whatsoever to be running ambulances and firetrucks around town, on one or more days before 6-25-09, like kids playing with their toys.  It would only create numerous opportunities to raise suspicions, at the least.  Also, to NOT have the ambulance at Carolwood and then UCLA on 6-25 would be another sure fire way to raise major suspicions.

The ambulance photo needed to be staged in advance, because of the great difficulty getting a good picture through the window "on the fly"; and if you missed the one chance, you would not get another.  But staging that photo in advance would not raise public suspicion, if it was done indoors.

Also, some seem to think that the ambulance picture was generated from nothing, in good-old "Photoshop"; but the reality is, no matter how good you are at Photoshop, you don't just start from nothing and end up with a high resolution photograph (like the ambulance photo).  Staging the ambulance photo gives you the basic picture(s) to work from; and then you can modify it with Photoshop (such as adding the car reflection, by taking a separate photo of the car, and then layering it in Photoshop with some transparency).

So I want to start this level by debunking all the false theories about the ambulance (such as more than one ambulance, or it went to UCLA on a different day, etc).  There is little point in discussing who or what went to UCLA on June 25 in the ambulance, if we're not even sure whether the ambulance itself went to UCLA on June 25 2009!  I need your help bringing all these theories to this thread, whether you believe in them or not; but please read all the posts in this thread before posting one of these theories, and make sure that it's not a repeat of the same basic theory already discussed and debunked.  Also, anyone can help out in the debunking process as well; this will help us get to the end faster.

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Once that is done (level 7a), we'll move on to level 7b; I probably won't start a new thread, but I will post a picture in this thread of another puzzle piece put into place.  Level 7b will be who or what went to UCLA on June 25, 2009.  When that is resolved, I will post another step in the puzzle pieces coming together; and we will finish this level with 7c, which will be any further details about the FBI, sting, and court.  When level 7c is done, I will post a picture of the completed puzzle.

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At this point, I'm going to give you a couple of real good pointers, which should help you as we go through this final level.  Start with the fewest people possible in on it, which would actually be zero and no hoax (MJ really died); and then work backwards from that point—changing nothing from the no hoax scenario, except what is NEEDED to be changed in order to accomplish the hoax.  I already gave you an example with the ambulance: if MJ really died, then the ambulance came to Carolwood and went to UCLA on June 25, 2009.  Don't change that for the hoax, unless there is a need for it to happen on a different day.  And use this same principle, in putting all the pieces together.

Last but not least, here is a real good statement from bec, which she posted in my recent thread about the timing of the 911 call (12:20 or 12:21?).  Keep this concept in mind, because it applies to far more than just the 911 call.  "One good reason I can think of doing an actual call that day (not 911, just a call) is for realism later. It's very easy to keep up appearances if what you are talking about actually happened. Alvarez's testimony and statements, Murray's statements on this documentary, they can be describing an actual staged scene as opposed to just a figment of imagination. Recalling an actual event would give their statements a sense of realism, instead of them simply reciting lines." {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21289.msg370203#msg370203}.

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MJonmind

VeryLittleSusie

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Maybe the idea of hoax was to make us believe MJ is alive when in fact he was not...
1-01-2013 is our BAMsday in a sense that we finally realise that we've been punked....

Interesting way of looking at Bam.  MJ's just being fair with both groups--beLIEvers and deaders. They each have their turn to feel the agony of being punked!! :'( :icon_eek: :icon_evil: :icon_e_biggrin:
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Bec

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And we are now allowed to know that TS_comments is/was a fake informer.

But which parts of his INFORMation were fake?

The DWD patient most certainly for starters

The rest if my list up for consideration;

-The EOW

-The FBI Sting operation

-The Illuminati being after MJ

I'm sure there's many other points but I'll let others have a go.

Happy New Year! Let's hope the rest of 2013 is as full of truth as the first day has been so far.

Wow!  Talk about taking the bull by the horns!  2013 is going to be a GREAT and interesting year here!!!

Andrea

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But you guys are right, it does bring into question everything TS has told us.  And I agree that it could also be a test of faith or something.  I feel a bit deflated but it's my own doing.  I have no idea what to expect now, maybe that's how it's supposed to be.

Once again, we are on the edge of our seats, hanging on for dear life...!

Iamamjbeliever and Mattie, we each can jump off the hoax train any time we wish.  But when it appears to be 50/50 whether TS/Front comes from a good or evil source, then don't we owe it to ourselves to wait it out?  The odds are very good TS/Front are MJ (I still believe they are him, because of all the mountains of evidence.) Nothing's changed for me.

Bec

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I don't see how playing games with false information fits in with these theories but if someone else does and they'd like to explain I'd like to listen.

Isn't this exactly like the reality we live in, the recorded history of the world?  The beliefs held dear to many?  Some is true and much is not.  How do we discern what's truth and what's deception?  Again, I think MJ is mentoring us.  Many people close to him, said he mentored them.

Thriller4ever, I'm glad you're with us!  Sometimes talking out our doubts, helps.

Andrea

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I wish I could give you those guarantees but I really don't know anymore than you do.  We have been given what we need to keep going in the past 3 1/2 years.  We all have our personal limits but as of right now, the hoax is limitless.

Reminds me of Front telling us about the Israelites wandering in the wilderness, and God only gave them what they needed, but he always provided and was faithful., even though they grumbled and doubted.

Sweetsunset, at least we're here, together as a family!  We're experiencing this adventure together, and can safely talk all we want about how we feel.

Aussie, Front also posted MJ's quote:  "Just because it's in print, doesn't mean it's the Gospel."


paula-c

I have to say I expected something like this, now I have great curiosity by going to say TS the next time and am not going to set dates by which already this verified that the dates we do not put them.

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Trusting everyone is foolish; but don't trust anyone is neurotic clumsiness.

the previous sentence I read somewhere


MsTrinity333

Quote from: Adi on January 01, 2013, 07:02:33 PM

As we know TS did say that there is a deadline beyond which the BAM won't be extended.....

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Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!!  Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ.  However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended.  I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!

I am thinking that the redirect on 12/27/12 about all those tweets regarding the Dr M appeal brief deadline and extended/extensions, extended time, extra dose of time etc etc  was TS trying to tell us that there really had been an extension of the deadline of the BAM before it happened.........kind of trying to give us a heads up in a subtle way?

Am I making sense? maybe I am just being delusional or have my head buried in the sand and can't face reality  :icon_lol:

IDK....will be in watching and waiting mode...those tweets and the timing indicated still have me curious.


I just finished catching up on this thread & I agree Adi.  ;D

Sim & MJonmind GREAT POSTS & MONTAGES. TS spoke in detail about the PTB/NWO/ILLUMINATI.

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Hang in there gag...let's see what the delay is all about.    :bearhug:

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