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DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 03:19:55 PM
DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT
GUILTY




Dr. Conrad Murray has been found GUILTY of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson.

Jurors came back with the verdict moments ago after a grueling 6-week trial, finding prosecutors proved beyond a reasonable doubt ... Dr. Murray is responsible for MJ's death.

Murray faces up to 4 years behind bars, but the reality is ... he will not go to state prison because of a new law, and will likely serve his time in L.A. County Jail.

Story Developing ...
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 03:22:50 PM
I knew this was going to happen...no reaction from Murray as well.
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 04:20:12 PM
Guilty.. Michael would not let an innocent go to prison because of him.  This is something i will never believe.

It was all a delusional imagination of mine. I don't care how this goes out, I don't care if for opening my mouth to say my opinion people will jump in my head again, I need to take it out of my soul now.

 I am exhausted, sad, consumed. I can't believe that what I feared for became reality. How can this be just an illusion? It's not. No one can joke with the justice of a country. No one. That's why I never enjoyed this, for me it was never about entertainment and only I know how much it hurts me. I care for him as I care for my brother and for me it was no game. I was a stupid vulnerable. I believed in "clues" and "informers" and everything.

Yes, it is a burst for the moment, a consequence of these 2 years of sleepless nights and daily struggle of "what ifs" and "maybe he's alive". I cannot understand, I simply fail to understand why this all began, what was the gain of those who fed it?
What I feel now ...  I don't know how to say it. I simply look at all this and I have no words anymore.
Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 05:46:59 PM by _Anna_
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 05:26:32 PM
sigh........ :?: :| Once again...highly confused. Especially @ the recent tweets I've been viewing.
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I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 05:36:45 PM
Just sharing my thoughts!

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My reaction to the verdict of Conrad Murray: Guilty!

I knew this could happen, I suspected it would happen, and this does not change anything for me in my belief that MJ is alive.

Let me back up on my thoughts on this.

In 1993 and 2005, Michael Jackson was brought forth into the judicial system on molestation charges.  I’m sure it boggled not only MJ’s mind, and his family’s mind, but also MJ’s friends and fans’ minds that Michael Jackson, an innocent man, could find himself in the position to even be brought to trial.

Really, think about this.  Think if it was you.  Someone accuses you of something that is so far from your nature that you in your mind think, this is absolutely ludacris  and no one will believe this.  However, as the days goes on you realize that people are starting to believe the lies.  Even more hurtful is some of the people who claimed to love and know you are believing it too.  Then the last straw is as you enter into the court room, “evidence” has been fabricated to support the lies.

I’m sure the question on MJ’s mind would be: how in the hell could the judicial system be so corrupt as to allow a completely innocent man to wind up in court and possibly convicted of something completely fabricated?  Challenge is the only people who would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that MJ is innocent would be MJ himself and his accusers.  Oh and most importantly, God.

By God’s grace, MJ was found not guilty.  That does NOT erase the fact that it could have gone the other way and MJ, AN INNOCENT MAN, could have gone to jail for a crime that he did not commit…. All in the name of money.

How many other people have been wrongly convicted and it had gone unnoticed?  How many others have lost their lives due to being framed for something they didn’t do!

I believe that MJ would want to expose this corruption and speak for those men and women wrongly convicted who were now voiceless.

Enter hoaxville.

From the start I have said that this is not just a game.  Many ARG’s have been constructed that have an element of social awareness…. Open our eyes to the true state of the world.  I believe MJ is doing that right now.

How could it be displayed that the judicial system could actually wrongly find someone guilty of a crime that they beyond doubt did not commit?  And how could it be displayed on such a grand scale that people would have to take notice?

How about murdering one of the most recognizable faces in the world?  Oh but wait, then proving that he didn’t do it by producing the victim as being alive.

To me Conrad Murray HAD to be found guilty to PROVE that there is something wrong with the way things are done.

So for many this verdict is virtually the end.  Justice for MJ!  To me it’s just entering a new phase of getting true justice.  Not just for MJ but for we the people who are supposedly protected by a flawed system.

So people keep your seatbelts on…. I don’t believe this ride is over…. The best is yet to come!
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 05:45:45 PM
Personally, I was a part of the 'Michael used a replacement body' theory. These events only support my belief :p
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
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Guilty.. Michael would not let an innocent go to prison because of him.  This is something i will never believe.

It was all a delusional imagination of mine. I don't care how this goes out, I don't care if for opening my mouth to say my opinion people will jump in my head again, I need to take it out of my soul now.

 I am exhausted, sad, consumed. I can't believe that what I feared for became reality. How can this be just an illusion? It's not. No one can joke with the justice of a country. No one. That's why I never enjoyed this, for me it was never about entertainment and only I know how much it hurts me. I care for him as I care for my brother and for me it was no game. I was a stupid vulnerable. I believed in "clues" and "informers" and everything.

Yes, it is a burst for the moment, a consequence of these 2 years of sleepless nights and daily struggle of "what ifs" and "maybe he's alive". I cannot understand, I simply fail to understand why this all began, what was the gain of those who fed it?
What I feel now ...  I don't know how to say it. I simply look at all this and I have no words anymore.


Anna, I hope what happened today is confirmation of what I have been saying for long time, Conrad is not in hoax. His conviction does not prove that Michael is dead. CM was ordered to kill MJ, that's what he tried to do, but failed. How he failed, was MJ saved but announced dead or Michael escaped before CM killed him, will be revealed later. Moreover, Part II will be discovering organizers of Michael murder THA PROSECUTION FAILED TO DO. Think this way: WHTHER mICHAEL IS ALIVE OR DEAD/KILLED, CONVICTION IN INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER IS NOT A JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL.
SO, I FILL THE STORY TO BE CONTINUED AND MJ WILL COME OUT WITH HIS TRUE STORY AND CHARGES.

ANOTHER OPTION, CONRAD HELPED MICHAEL TO ESCAPE FOR A LOT OF MONEY IN TURN TO SERVE COUPLE OF YEARS IN PRISON. ANYONE WOULD DO THAT FOR LET'S SAY $50 MILLION. WHO CARES HE WON'T BE A DOCTOR ANYMORE IF HE CAN HAVE EVERYTHING FOR THAT MONEY AND ENOUGH FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. BUT THE SAD PART OF THIS OPTION IS THAT MICHAEL IS NOT COMING BACK.
Don't panic yet.
This is of course only my opinion.
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 06:12:35 PM
took me 2 HOURS to get on here...sigh


I was expecting Not Guilty, but after the reactions, it solidified to me Mike is still alive...a no brainer...
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November 07, 2011, 06:13:17 PM
Jermaine and Latoya both said "Michael is with us."

They kept talking about him in the present tense and another thing I noticed that NO ONE is talking about. Remember the woman holding the person who was too emotional? This person was wearing all black, not once did this person turn to look at the camera.

I am starting to think that maybe THAT was Michael. Everyone else is crying, jumping for joy, and this person who is covered in all black is "too emotional' to look at the camera.

Another key reference was when they said "the jury didn't look at Murray. Which is a sign of a guilty verdict."

Didn't they say the same thing about Michael's verdict? I am definitely not giving up, this is going to get interesting. I'll only stop if Murray is actually sentenced to prison.
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 06:28:47 PM
It is strange that a person  which has known  must pass 4 years in prison does not have no reaction  :D....seemed knew the script. typing/..great actor Conrad!!! bearhug
We wait for the next action.... michael-jackson/ mj_dance/ /cook/

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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 06:34:16 PM
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Guilty.. Michael would not let an innocent go to prison because of him.  This is something i will never believe.

It was all a delusional imagination of mine. I don't care how this goes out, I don't care if for opening my mouth to say my opinion people will jump in my head again, I need to take it out of my soul now.

 I am exhausted, sad, consumed. I can't believe that what I feared for became reality. How can this be just an illusion? It's not. No one can joke with the justice of a country. No one. That's why I never enjoyed this, for me it was never about entertainment and only I know how much it hurts me. I care for him as I care for my brother and for me it was no game. I was a stupid vulnerable. I believed in "clues" and "informers" and everything.

Yes, it is a burst for the moment, a consequence of these 2 years of sleepless nights and daily struggle of "what ifs" and "maybe he's alive". I cannot understand, I simply fail to understand why this all began, what was the gain of those who fed it?
What I feel now ...  I don't know how to say it. I simply look at all this and I have no words anymore.

Anna please dont lose faith now. They just put Murray in handcuffs and walked him out a door and thats all we saw. There is not proof that he is actually in custody. For all we know he could be in a jacuzzi somewhere having a cocktail.

I totally agree with Bec. Troy Davis was a potentially innocent man that was put to death for murder in Sept. after serving 20+ years on death row even tho all of the witnesses retracted their stories and said that they were forced to testify by police. There was no DNA evidence and he was not allowed to take a lie detector test. I think it is very possible that a part of this hoax is to expose the flaws in our justice system.

Just imagine how much more effective the BAM will be after a guilty verdict. Plus it makes for better "documentary" material. Anna, I pray that you have peace of mind and I wish you all the love in the world.
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 06:35:00 PM
The thing that struck me was Murray had no expression (indicating he already knew there would be a guilty verdict) and even Chernoff said something about probation sentencing having been already discussed. 

The remand into custody did not surprise me, I think they did that for Murray's safety.

 A few other things I thought was odd....

1) Murray didn't stand for the reading of the verdict

2) The judge asked the jurors their individual votes (this is usually requested by the lead defense attorney)

3) The judge instructed that the jury could not recieve "payment" for speaking to anyone about the case for 90 days.

4) The request for remand was given AFTER the establishment of a sentencing date, not before.

5) Murray was handcuffed while Judge Pastor was giving remand explanation and not after(how would the convicted know to what he was being into custody for?)


I'm sure as the video's a played over and over over the next few days other things will stand out....it just all happened so fast. :roll:
Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 06:39:05 PM by Snoopy71
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
Hi all, I wrote this beforehand to copy/paste from notepad
before even reading what you all said regarding today,
so sorry if I repeat somebody.
This is just my take on what's going on.
I honestly can't see why Murray should be "not guilty".
It doesn't matter if it was him or not him who injected the
alleged victim with lethal dose of whatever it was.
It's not a murder trial. It's involuntary manslaughter.
He was criminally negligent and it was shown even with absent
drip, so I don't see how jurors, and we assume they are real
or at least act like they are real, could find him innocent.
And really, do we have 24/7 reality TV cameras on him now, watching
how and when he goes "to jail"?
Also I'm not sure he is innocent cutie pie, to me he looks like
a foolish incompetent Dr. with signs of Money Love and narcissism.
Perfect Fall Guy.

We do not know real reasons for this possible hoax.
We do not know. We only guess.
I don't think it's for fun, I always believed reasons are
serious, so serious it's dangerous. Also I don't think there
will be "Bams day" soon or ever - Michael Joe probably wants
calm safe life behind the curtain! Well deserved life.
That's exactly what Elvis wanted if he hoaxed his death.

Joe or Joseph.. 2005 trial was darn real. It was a hoax only on
a prosecution side as they had no real evidence, but for Michael
it was oh so real and horrible :cry:. And he was Michael Joe. Real man.
So let us all decide for ourselves does it matter or it doesn't
matter. And Jermaine together with LaToya do not help here
with their "Of course it's Joe!" :P
Again, Joe or not, it's up to us to guess what it does or
doesn't mean.

This trial was odd. Very odd. Everything about this case is.
But I'm not American, I'm not American coroner nor American attorney, so I do not know if what's bizarre to me here is indeed illegal and bizarre in US! I really do not know.

Hoax or real crime, it's sad to see people just giving up and
leaving and "moving on" and simply ABANDONING Michael.
I'll stay "on" till I know what happened on June 9th.. oops,
I mean June 25th ;) 2009 with our beloved Michael Joe.
Maybe it will take years or my entire life, I do not know.
I only want all evils to be exposed and to know the Truth. That's it.
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 06:50:29 PM
For those who are losing faith....let me ask you this.


Why would you believe ....

1) Michael's death was a hoax

2) Michael's memorial was a hoax

3) Michael's burial was a hoax

4) Murray's trial was a hoax


.....and NOT BELIEVE this verdict is a hoax? :(

....you think a real verdict could come out of a fake trial?  :?



JUST BECAUSE YOU READ IT IN A MAGAZINE OR SEE IT ON A TV SCREEN DON'T MAKE IT ACTUAL/FACTUAL- Michael Jackson
  :geek:


Last Edit: November 12, 2011, 10:44:31 AM by Snoopy71
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Re: DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT GUILTY
November 07, 2011, 06:52:39 PM
So much for the truth will prevail!!!  If he thought he'd go free....
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