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Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 24, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
The quality of this video footage is terrible....you'd think that it would better quality since it was for a celebrity's home.  I paused it at an image that possibly could be MJ...wearing sunglasses at night in a car???? It's very unclear, but just wanted to put it out there.  During the vid you can hear Chernoff say "watch"...then "pause here" and that's right when this image appears.

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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 24, 2011, 10:40:30 PM
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The quality of this video footage is terrible....you'd think that it would better quality since it was for a celebrity's home.  I paused it at an image that possibly could be MJ...wearing sunglasses at night in a car???? It's very unclear, but just wanted to put it out there.  During the vid you can hear Chernoff say "watch"...then "pause here" and that's right when this image appears.


Was this aired during court today???
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I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 24, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
Yes...it was aired during court today.
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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 24, 2011, 10:48:15 PM
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Yes...it was aired during court today.

Wow....I h8 missing the good stuff.:( I hope I can find it on youtube....

It's crazy how before there were no such things as surveillance tapes in the beginning, but now all of a sudden they want to sneek one in....Smh.  typing/ confused/
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I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 24, 2011, 11:12:06 PM
Thank you for posting about this video.  It's nowhere online yet.  I sat in amazement.  You see the a lot from the vantage point of inside the gates looking towards the street.  I saw Michael's (or what is thought of as to be) line of suvs coming home, and a smaller car (maybe a bmw....Murray).  I posted about one thing that caught my eye.  That smaller car backs up into what seems like it's parking.  To me it looked liked proof there is room for any vehicle, including and ambulance, to turn around quickly in order exit correctly out of the gates.  I also remember seeing a person in light colored pants (almost PJ looking in shape) and a long trench coat (almost robe looking in shape) walk back and forth several times in front of gate (keep in mind it's inside the property at this point).....it's like he was parading, not guarding the place.  The gates first opened with bright headlights shining......opening like the gates of Heaven, lol...it was angelic.  Then the first suv, then the second...forget how many and the car.  Then we see one suv ( I think it was an suv) leave the property.  Then a little while later we see another round coming in.  We are then seeing outside the gates.  I saw a few people standing around at the edge of the driveway.  Also, noticed what looked like a minivan parked right across the driveway area....where the red car in the ambulance video.  There is a section I saw where it shows the driver up close....it was really weird though.  It looked like the camera became handheld.....it was an up close shot.  When the cars all came in the first time, none of them stopped...they just came in.  I don't know what that shot of the driver/or security was all about. 
These are things I noticed and am remembering off the top of my head.  I sat there in amazement watching this dark, grainy, skipping video though.  Yes, I would have thought it would have been better quality.  But, then I thought....everything has a purpose.   I am sure there is a reason this video is like this.  Perhaps if we saw things too clearly, it wouldn't be a good thing. 
I might have recorded it on the dvr....I am hoping.  It will show up online for sure...it's very interesting to watch.  Michael supposedly came home during that tape...so he is in one of those suvs. 
I just got chills thinking: This Is It


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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 24, 2011, 11:16:54 PM
I don't know its hard to see...but remember they showed a few cars coming in, one of them supposedly with MJ, than a few minutes later (I don't know if it was a few minutes later because it was fast-forwarded) a car supposedly with MJ in it (well I think so), leaves Carolwood.


Also the guy that was looking straight at the camera in the footage who was that, it was kinda creepy?...lol
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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 12:01:21 AM
This is like a pregnancy ultrasound.....I can't make out a darn thing!
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.....what's the green smoke?....is that a head?


*edit 10/25....now I understand...lol....I was just looking at this screen shot.  Video is much better Thank you!
Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 07:32:31 AM by Snoopy71
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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 12:16:28 AM
Yes...the "green" image is at the top right.  It goes so fast on the video that you can miss it...but I caught it.  If you go on YouTube, JustMeSTKK has today's trial up already.

The guy in the long black coat (wearing a coat in June??) looks like Alvarez.  The driver scared the )(*)(* out of me when I first saw him.  I guess the people outside the gate were fans...but I thought it was way odd that the gates kept opening and closing so often.
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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 12:39:45 AM
Thanks for the heads up about YouTube...I had just checked that same account, lol.  That person really does a nice job of listing the videos.....it's the only one I really watch.


Right, onto the video.....other odd things I have to question/or noticed:


- why is the date written 09/06/25   (is it a European company?....in the US, it would be 06/25/09)
-the gates seem to open and close a few times for no reason...no cars come in or out
-towards the end, I see what looks like a small car parked across the street, going the wrong direction
-I think I see wreaths on the gates?  Not 100% sure
-near the beginning, when one of the suvs come in, there is a shadow on the open gate.  You can see a security guy standing there.  The shadow cast looks like a man in a fedora style hat and coat....sort of like The Shadow. 
-again towards the end, I see another regular car entering, not suv
-at the very end, I see the up close of I suppose the driver?  I also see what looks like a face in the backseat, but really obscured......who else could it be? 


That's it for now.....will watch it again and again and again....just like the ambulance, I see something different each time I watch it.


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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 12:59:55 AM

You can see it at the 24minute mark....this channel has all the trial footage...
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rRtsRVQiRU[/youtube]
Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 01:05:32 AM by 2good2btrue
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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 01:01:09 AM
You can watch any trial days here, on this youtube channel.....enjoy

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Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 01:21:19 AM by 2good2btrue
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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 01:16:10 AM
the month is the 2nd number...date is the first then the year...so 25/6/09

I see Paris standing there, not sure who is with her, couldn't make out Michael but why does one of the drivers look RIGHT into the security camera? Like he WANTED to be seen and noticed...very fishy
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October 25, 2011, 01:36:27 AM
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You can see it at the 24minute mark....this channel has all the trial footage...
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Thanks a bunch for posting this. :) It was scary to see that face appear of that one guy on the 2nd vid. lol.  afraid/<---me. :lol: I notice how the #7 is even quite significant DURING court. 7min of footage ....hmmmmm.....
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I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 01:39:05 AM
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the month is the 2nd number...date is the first then the year...so 25/6/09

I see Paris standing there, not sure who is with her, couldn't make out Michael but why does one of the drivers look RIGHT into the security camera? Like he WANTED to be seen and noticed...very fishy


That's the same thing I was thinking. Why did he look directly into the cam like that??? pale/ I noticed how right before the break they ended the vid on his face specifically. Why??? I didn't get to see Paris though...
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Re: Surveillance video from 6/25/09
October 25, 2011, 03:03:38 AM
The first video is of the security guards arriving before MJ, and then they remove the cars and park them around the corner, using the side entrance at Monovale Dve ......that has a security keypad to enter and obviously has a surveillance camera. 

The Monovale Dve entrance has an underground carpark that allows the cars to come out in the side of the front garden area on Carolwood Dve......there is also a third entrance that is a secret gate, but thanks to google earth and further investigations, we came up with a third entrance that is never mentioned, so MJ could have easily escaped from that entrance and no-one would have known about it.. ;))
Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 03:09:08 AM by 2good2btrue
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