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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Is it me or is this black square in this particular photo TRANSPARENT??OMG... Sorry, I warned you I have been staring at it for hours... crash/
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:?: Why Michael has no belly button in this photo?? Maybe they don't know how touse photoshop...
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Is it me or is this black square in this particular photo TRANSPARENT??OMG... Sorry, I warned you I have been staring at it for hours... crash/ No, it's not just you...I know what you mean by "transparent" square ...I noticed it too when I first saw it. In fact, if I look at my computer at a certain angle I can almost see the shape of a ...ah.. :? anywho... I thought it was a little light to be adequate coverage (almost like they used a piece of "post-it" cut to fit/cover)...I notice in subsequent pictures, the black square is much darker in coloration.I think what we all have to remember when people say they can or can't see a belly button or other details is that we are looking at a picture of a picture....so alot of detail is going to be blurred or lightened out in the photo, and compromise the quality of the photo we see.I still don't think it was necessary to show it based on the testimony that was given. But clearly they are trying to give the impression that the moment Michael arrived at the Coroners office (apparently from the helicopter), that they immediately took a photograph of the body before doing any type of prep work or moving the body (which again makes you question the authenticity of the situation)...what was the rush to take photos before properly prepping the body?I am curious too.....what is that bright yellow tag (band) around his ankle? It seems a little unusual/out of place given the circumstances. Why would they tag him with such a bright and cheerful color? (and his favorite one too!)
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login Is it me or is this black square in this particular photo TRANSPARENT??OMG... Sorry, I warned you I have been staring at it for hours... crash/ No, it's not just you...I know what you mean by "transparent" square ...I noticed it too when I first saw it. In fact, if I look at my computer at a certain angle I can almost see the shape of a ...ah.. :? anywho... I thought it was a little light to be adequate coverage (almost like they used a piece of "post-it" cut to fit/cover)...I notice in subsequent pictures, the black square is much darker in coloration.I think what we all have to remember when people say they can or can't see a belly button or other details is that we are looking at a picture of a picture....so alot of detail is going to be blurred or lightened out in the photo, and compromise the quality of the photo we see.I still don't think it was necessary to show it based on the testimony that was given. But clearly they are trying to give the impression that the moment Michael arrived at the Coroners office (apparently from the helicopter), that they immediately took a photograph of the body before doing any type of prep work or moving the body (which again makes you question the authenticity of the situation)...what was the rush to take photos before properly prepping the body?I am curious too.....what is that bright yellow tag (band) around his ankle? It seems a little unusual/out of place given the circumstances. Why would they tag him with such a bright and cheerful color? (and his favorite one too!) About the yellow tag....follow the yellow brick road? Perhaps??? Even though the belly button was found, there's everything wrong about this photo and the defense displaying it. Made NO logical sense. :cry: I'll be darned if that's MJ. If that's MJ, then my name is Janet, Ms. Jackson if ure nasty. haha.
Did anyone know about this? You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginIt could tie in with the theory an impostor died, in which case the Propofol would have been used legally.
Quote from: becQuote from: ~Souza~ California has his own assisted suicide protocol. It differs from the Washington one but it's allowed there. Also, Murray was not in the room, he fell asleep, went to the bathroom and got on the phone all at once, only to return and find 'MJ' not breathing. I am going to mail Cali about this issue, to see what they say. No they don't, they only have a law to allow the removal of a feeding tube. That's a completely different situation. Euthanasia, which is what the suicide pills are, is not legal in California and it is considered suicide. But I am curious what Cali replies with. Caliland (Mr. Schwarzenegger) did approve a nurse-assisted suicide bill which is not too far from euthanasia. Drug the depressed, then starve / dehydrate them to death. Take involuntary detention and involuntary treatment in a neuro-psychiatric clinic first and connect the dots. QuoteInvoluntary commitment is the practice of placing a person to a psychiatric hospital or ward against his or her will, in compliance with mental health laws of the country. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login QuoteCalifornia approves nurse-assisted suicide Schwarzenegger signs bill authorizing dehydration, starvation of patients Posted: October 02, 2008 12:30 am Eastern © 2011 WorldNetDaily California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger SACRAMENTO – California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has officially approved an assisted suicide measure allowing nurses to sedate, dehydrate and starve depressed or confused individuals they consider to be "terminally ill." The bill, sponsored by Assemblywoman Patty Berg, a Democrat, passed the California Assembly Aug. 28, and the state Senate Aug. 20. It was signed by the governor yesterday. The legislation, called the "Terminal Patients' Right to Know End of Life Options Act," or AB 2747, passed by a 42 to 34 vote. An Aug. 20 Senate vote of 21 to 17 ushered the measure to the governor's desk for signing. Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families, said the legislation is dangerous and should have been vetoed by Gov. Schwarzenegger. "AB 2747 pushes suicide through the back door at the hands of non-physicians taking advantage of depressed patients," he said in a statement. "AB 2747 cheapens the value of human life by endorsing suicide as an option." The measure allows physician assistants and nurses to decide whether a person is "terminally ill" and deprive them of basic life-sustaining necessities such as food and water. "Depressed patients who succumb to this pressure will be drugged unconscious and die from dehydration, usually within five to 10 days," Thomasson said. "Nothing in the bill prohibits this horror." Thomasson said Berg "deceptively changed" the bill to appear that "voluntarily stopping of eating and drinking" and "palliative sedation" no longer were on a list of "symptom management" options. (Story continues below) "But the final bill "is broad enough to easily include these suicide techniques," he said. According to the CCF, Assemblyman Van Tran of Costa Mesa warned the bill has no protections for patients "who could be mistakenly diagnosed as 'terminally ill' but would have many, many full years of life ahead." "The bill does not otherwise attempt to expressly define terminal illness that each of these health care professionals would have to diagnose to trigger the offer of counseling end of life option," Tran said. "It is not clear why nurse practitioners and physician assistants could make such a significant diagnosis. It is further not clear from the bill how making such significant diagnoses on a case-by-case basis can be done by such practitioners and assistants based on so-called 'standardized procedures and protocols' not further defined by the bill. The potential effect of AB 2747 is extremely broad and could cause irrevocable harm." As WND reported, state Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, urged Schwarzenegger to veto the bill as well. He said the legislation was sponsored by a group called Compassion and Choices, which formerly was known as the Hemlock Society and has advocated for physician-assisted suicide legislation in the past. A founder of the group has praised Dr. Jack Kevorkian for helping more than 100 people die. Dozens of individuals and groups representing cancer patients, minority rights groups, members of religious communities and hospitals spoke before the Senate Health Committee in opposition to the idea. Also, numerous hospitals and other organizations opposed the measure, includeing California Disability Alliance, California Family Council, California Nurses for Ethical Standards, Mercy San Juan Medical Center, Sierra Nevada Memorial Hospital and St. Mary's Medical Center in San Francisco. Read more: California approves nurse-assisted suicide You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login I am still convinced that the "old frail sick man" was a tactical smoke screen to irritate (and mock at the same time) Michael's foes' perception of him. Remember 'Breaking News' lyrics "thought he was done", who gave us this description and how deep the first statements and news were burned into our minds in the first days of trauma, mourning and doubt. Looking at this description from afar, makes it not more or less precise than anything else TMZ are currently diffusing.Not everything that does not fit into our image of Michael must be true or a clue.
Quote from: ~Souza~ California has his own assisted suicide protocol. It differs from the Washington one but it's allowed there. Also, Murray was not in the room, he fell asleep, went to the bathroom and got on the phone all at once, only to return and find 'MJ' not breathing. I am going to mail Cali about this issue, to see what they say. No they don't, they only have a law to allow the removal of a feeding tube. That's a completely different situation. Euthanasia, which is what the suicide pills are, is not legal in California and it is considered suicide. But I am curious what Cali replies with.
California has his own assisted suicide protocol. It differs from the Washington one but it's allowed there. Also, Murray was not in the room, he fell asleep, went to the bathroom and got on the phone all at once, only to return and find 'MJ' not breathing. I am going to mail Cali about this issue, to see what they say.
Involuntary commitment is the practice of placing a person to a psychiatric hospital or ward against his or her will, in compliance with mental health laws of the country.
California approves nurse-assisted suicide Schwarzenegger signs bill authorizing dehydration, starvation of patients Posted: October 02, 2008 12:30 am Eastern © 2011 WorldNetDaily California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger SACRAMENTO – California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has officially approved an assisted suicide measure allowing nurses to sedate, dehydrate and starve depressed or confused individuals they consider to be "terminally ill." The bill, sponsored by Assemblywoman Patty Berg, a Democrat, passed the California Assembly Aug. 28, and the state Senate Aug. 20. It was signed by the governor yesterday. The legislation, called the "Terminal Patients' Right to Know End of Life Options Act," or AB 2747, passed by a 42 to 34 vote. An Aug. 20 Senate vote of 21 to 17 ushered the measure to the governor's desk for signing. Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families, said the legislation is dangerous and should have been vetoed by Gov. Schwarzenegger. "AB 2747 pushes suicide through the back door at the hands of non-physicians taking advantage of depressed patients," he said in a statement. "AB 2747 cheapens the value of human life by endorsing suicide as an option." The measure allows physician assistants and nurses to decide whether a person is "terminally ill" and deprive them of basic life-sustaining necessities such as food and water. "Depressed patients who succumb to this pressure will be drugged unconscious and die from dehydration, usually within five to 10 days," Thomasson said. "Nothing in the bill prohibits this horror." Thomasson said Berg "deceptively changed" the bill to appear that "voluntarily stopping of eating and drinking" and "palliative sedation" no longer were on a list of "symptom management" options. (Story continues below) "But the final bill "is broad enough to easily include these suicide techniques," he said. According to the CCF, Assemblyman Van Tran of Costa Mesa warned the bill has no protections for patients "who could be mistakenly diagnosed as 'terminally ill' but would have many, many full years of life ahead." "The bill does not otherwise attempt to expressly define terminal illness that each of these health care professionals would have to diagnose to trigger the offer of counseling end of life option," Tran said. "It is not clear why nurse practitioners and physician assistants could make such a significant diagnosis. It is further not clear from the bill how making such significant diagnoses on a case-by-case basis can be done by such practitioners and assistants based on so-called 'standardized procedures and protocols' not further defined by the bill. The potential effect of AB 2747 is extremely broad and could cause irrevocable harm." As WND reported, state Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, urged Schwarzenegger to veto the bill as well. He said the legislation was sponsored by a group called Compassion and Choices, which formerly was known as the Hemlock Society and has advocated for physician-assisted suicide legislation in the past. A founder of the group has praised Dr. Jack Kevorkian for helping more than 100 people die. Dozens of individuals and groups representing cancer patients, minority rights groups, members of religious communities and hospitals spoke before the Senate Health Committee in opposition to the idea. Also, numerous hospitals and other organizations opposed the measure, includeing California Disability Alliance, California Family Council, California Nurses for Ethical Standards, Mercy San Juan Medical Center, Sierra Nevada Memorial Hospital and St. Mary's Medical Center in San Francisco. Read more: California approves nurse-assisted suicide