Some of the odd things at trial & outside courthouse so far

[YouRnotAlone7]

Yes, a flashlight can be used as a weapon...but who has ever seen a cop keep it between his legs?  It was the oddest thing ever...and then after the break it was gone.

[aimee]

I found this here...no press inside the courtroom. The courtroom is on the 9Th floor, the press on the 12 th floor, the only floor where pics and filming is allowed.
That means they could have always filmed it all and send it at that day to the waiting press....so little actuall little thinks like the weather, that give it a live touch could they put in...that's not the problem and ...rearly, why mentioned a judge a little rain ? only when it will make this all a live illusion... /toldya/
 
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Blessings !
 

Thank you for this additional source.
It is remarkable that what they are saying may 100% be taken as a pure ironic statement.

“I believe in transparency,” said CNN Anchor Don Lemon. “I think that’s what America is all about.  Americans should be in on the process,” Lemon said. “Visual media is part of the media. It helps when people see how the process works. Without transparency, there is room to conceal things,” he said.Ethan Smith, a senior special writer with the Wall Street Journal’s Los Angeles bureau, was in court every day during week one. “We have to be the eyes and ears of the people to keep the process accountable,” Smith said.  The television coverage, ironically, keeps the press more accountable. “It turns the mirror back on us and keeps us accountable even as we are keeping the courts accountable,” Smith said. Each day, I lined up with Smith, Lemon, Seib and dozens of others to wait for deputies to waive us into the courtroom.  You were on time, through two security checks, wearing your press badge, or you didn’t get in the courtroom.  Court public information officer Mary Hearn, working with her staff and court deputies, ensured that no pictures were taken on the ninth floor, cleared the hallway of press as trial participants walked in each day, and generally kept order. That’s why if Murray is convicted, his chances of arguing that the press ruined his case appear to be nil, as was the case when disgraced Enron CEO Jeffrey Skilling made that failed argument in a case that reached the Supreme Court in 2010.Has the argument ever worked? Well, yes.The seminal example of a defendant successfully arguing that the press violated his Sixth Amendment rights came in the 1966 U.S. Supreme Court case Sheppard v. Maxwell. In Sheppard the U.S. Supreme Court said that the trial judge and the press allowed a “Roman circus” atmosphere to prevail.Dr. Sam Shepherd, convicted of killing his pregnant wife, was granted a new trial as a result and eventually walked away a free man. The Shepherd case is widely believed to be the inspiration for the Harrison Ford film “The Fugitive.”
But getting back to “these arts” and their evolution, it is remarkable that so many broadcasters—all local Los Angeles television stations, plus AP Broadcast, Reuters, Univision, MetroNetworks, CBS Radio, Fox Radio News, UniSat, CNN/HLN and a host of others—are all able to transmit the trial without creating the same circus atmosphere that soiled Shepherd v. Maxwell. They do it with three quiet video cameras and a single coordinator. They do it with cooperation between the courts and the media.

 smiley_spider /cook/ afraid/


The circus is being operated now by somebody in control.
 
I noticed this too. The Judge talkes a lot about the weather. Last Thurday the 13th again. When they stopped, he said something about it is going to be very warm; we are coming maybe into the three digit. But later that night I looked at CNN and they had the weather forcast for 5 days for Los Angeles and it said 20-21 degrees Celsius or 68-69.8 Fahrenheit. That made me also think that everything is not live and filmed earlier.
 
And another thing does anyone know where the public is seated, I mean the public wihich can obtain a seat through lottery system?

 

[PureLove]

On day 11 during the Alon Steinburg questioning, didn't anyone else notice the flashlight between the cop's legs behind the defense?
 OMG!

:lol:  OMG!  WTF?? :lol:

That looks like he was saying "The LIGHT is under my balls!" :lol:

[YouRnotAlone7]

So today (Wednesday) behind the guard sitting behind the glass partition was a painting of buildings....I didn't get a clear look but could it have been of NYC?  (twin towers)   Then after the break, the painting was gone!  I will watch closely after the vid is uploaded to YouTube to see if I can make out what it is.

[all4loveandbelieve]

YouRnotAlone7 Please do, I couldn`t watch the trial today, I had an emergency.. thanks.

[_Anna_]

So today (Wednesday) behind the guard sitting behind the glass partition was a painting of buildings....I didn't get a clear look but could it have been of NYC?  (twin towers)   Then after the break, the painting was gone!  I will watch closely after the vid is uploaded to YouTube to see if I can make out what it is.

please DO post the video or the print screens. couldn't watch either

[MJonmind]

I found this discovery, that the extra star from the California seal is in a bubble in the 'Michael' album cover. Can't think of another reason it would be there.


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[YouRnotAlone7]

I found this discovery, that the extra star from the California seal is in a bubble in the 'Michael' album cover. Can't think of another reason it would be there.


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WHOA!!!!     8-)

[YouRnotAlone7]

Here's the picture that was behind the cop...it looks like a farm from far away (and sorry so blurry, but I couldn't get it any clearer) but at one point it looked clearer and it seemed like a city skyline with smoke...but I'm really not sure.  Then the pic was gone near the end of the session.

[lorela]

Is this it?



I zoomed it, but it's blurry. It seems like a calendar to me.


I'm not sure if this element disappeared later, but there was another one after the break - some orange thing on the guard's desk.

[MJonmind]

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[bec]

I'll merge this one with the original thread.

[voiceforthesilent]

I'm confused - if this isn't the right thread let me know.

Did anyone see the medical record report that was shown? It was in reference to the IV set, I believe. The reference number is 007774. I believe it was people's number 157.

I can only listen and glance once in a while so will confirm which report this was when I get off of work. The triple 7's caught my eye, especially since it's referencing the IV Drip.

Blessings

[scorpionchik]

Expert: Jackson Didn’t Give Himself Propofol 

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Jackson was so heavily drugged in the hours before his death that he would have been incapable of self-administering the massive dose of propofol that killed him, a medical expert testified Thursday at the trial of Jackson’s doctor.
Dr. Steven Shafer, who presented a number of possible scenarios for Jackson’s overdose, said one posed by Dr. Conrad Murray’s defense — that the star gave himself the powerful anesthetic — is “crazy.”
“He can’t give himself an injection if he’s asleep,” Shafer told jurors.
The more likely scenario was that Murray placed Jackson on an IV propofol drip on the morning of his death then left later to make a series of phone calls as the singer slept, Shafer said.
Jackson probably stopped breathing before Murray returned, and the singer’s lungs emptied while the propofol kept flowing into his body, the witness said.
“This fits all of the data in this case and I am not aware of a single piece of data that is inconsistent with this explanation,” Shafer said.
Earlier, Shafer took the jury through a virtual chemistry class with diagrams and formulas projected on a large screen. He indicated the residue of drugs found during Jackson’s autopsy suggested Murray gave his patient much larger doses of sedatives than he told police.
He also said Jackson would have been extremely groggy from the drugs administered by IV throughout the night.
Murray told police he was away from Jackson for just two minutes — a period during which the defense says the singer could have grabbed a syringe and given himself additional propofol.
   “People don’t just wake up from anesthesia hell bent to pick up a syringe and pump it into the IV,” Shafer said, reminding the jury that the procedure was complicated. “It’s a crazy scenario.”
He also said it was unlikely that Jackson injected himself with a needle because the pop star’s veins were too deteriorated and the procedure would have been extremely painful.
Witnesses have said Jackson knew the drug had to be diluted with lidocaine in an IV to prevent burning when it entered the veins.
Shafer, a leading expert on anesthesiology who teaches at Columbia University Medical School, also rejected the claim that Jackson may have swallowed eight pills of the sedative lorazepam, also known as Ativan, causing his death.
Shafer said the amount of lorazepam found in Jackson’s stomach was “trivial” and not linked to oral ingestion. He suggested Murray gave Jackson much more lorazepam by IV infusion than the four milligrams he said he did.
After receiving lorazepam, another sedative known as midazolam (Versed) and propofol, Jackson would have been too groggy to handle the infusion of more anesthetic through an IV pump, Shafer said.
His opinions set up an expected clash with the views of his colleague, Dr. Paul White, who was waiting to testify for the defense. The men have been friends and associates for 30 years.
White, who sat in the courtroom taking notes, has suggested to the defense in a written report that Jackson might have swallowed a vial of propofol, accounting for the high level of the drug in his autopsy.
But the defense announced last week it had abandoned the theory in May after running its own tests that disproved the theory.
Coroner’s officials determined Jackson died on June 25, 2009, from acute propofol intoxication, and Murray has acknowledged giving the singer the drug as a sleep aid. The officials cited other sedatives as a contributing factor.
Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

[Aidan_81]

Dr. Steven Shafer was great.
Now can't wait for Dr. Paul White testimony..