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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 02:55:59 AM
after another look hubby is adiment this photo looks staged he says the cot sides should be both up if patient is alive or both down if deceased or being worked on and he said the background didnt look like a hospital background (he works for hospitals in the uk)
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 03:04:23 AM
Just look at his toes ... I mean such a short legs - it's funny.

And is it normal that the attorney doesn't describes picture, but just shows it? I thought that it is much more complicated.
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 03:19:18 AM
when i first saw this, it stopped my heart. i'm not going to lie. not in the sense that i thought it was real, because...come on. but the fact to "see" him this way.... i don't like it at all.

but seriously, how do people look at this photo and go "yes...that's so legitimate." really?

the quality is horrific. the proportions are off.
let's say this was taken post "death"... why was he wheeled into a hallway? why is the tube still in? why is this a background for a power point presentation for a manslaughter case with his mother sitting in the same room?
let's entertain for a split second that michael did die, how disrespectful of the prosecution to be so flamboyant with such a delicate picture, especially in front of a mother.

do you smell that?  cover your nose. it's b.s.
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 03:30:52 AM
Feels like a fake photo to me, with the fake recording, faking breaking the news. /scream/
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 03:32:48 AM
When was the picture suppose to be taken? The day when he "died" or when he was still alive & was brought to the hospital?  :?


And why isn't there any news of Michael in the hospital at that time? I mean c'mon! He is Michael Jackson & we all know that the paps stalk him 24/7. So why only show the pictures now & not at that timing when he was in the hospital?


Hopefully you guys get what I mean.  :)
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 03:40:05 AM
I did a comparison with the two photos....

I won't comment on the death picture, because there are many levels when someone dies in a hospital.  I have seen it all.!!

I will only say that it is possible, after a person has deceased, to make the patient look more presentable for viewing by the family.  That would include raising the bed, and covering the patient with a blanket or sheet.  And yes, intubation and nasal lines must stay in place for the coroner.  Mouths can sometimes remain open after death, so a pillow or tape are usually used to keep the mouth closed until rigar mortis sets in....

The body in this picture could easily be staged, but it is convincing.

Family are not allowed into the emergency room, so the viewing could have been in a recovery room, due to the celebrity status, and to enable the ER to be vacated, cleaned and available for other emergencies.  Resusitation attempts kept his skin from changing colour, as the blood was flowing through his body for a long time.....Eyes would have been closed by paramedics in the house, as they were looking for dilation of the pupils...
But having said that.............he was bald, and in both pictures, he is wearing a wig !! 

Did the bodyguards think it was important to make him look good for these pictures ???
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 03:58:58 AM
comparison pics
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 04:16:17 AM
Hi everybody, I'm new on forum but not new on the hoax subject.
Lurker for ages :)
Yes, still torn between murder and hoax, but trying to stay positive
and here are my thoughts on picture - first, I work as professional
illustrator in the world of computer 2D graphics and trust me,
everything is possible. To fake I mean. Especially if all we need is low-res
blurry picture!
Second, if we stay optimistic and trust this is a hoax - then why not real MJ posing
that way? This is serious work to make hoax..well, work.
If we remove rightful emotions and look carefully, he looks good
here. I'm serious. Looks like himself, recognisable enough and not "cancer-stricken"
or whatever it was - my dad died of cancer at 47, at such age you can tell
if person died of cancer.. such person IS unrecognisable and skinny beyond
belief. The MJ {or whoever it is} doesn't look that bad.
BTW as Photoshop regular I can tell ambulance pic looks like a fake
and I never considered it 2 be the "proof of his death", we should relax about that
ambulance one really. Can be staged, can be Photoshop, it's easy to make.

What I was afraid of - rumour that autopsy photo will be shown. Let's hope
we won't see that errrr . This one is much more acceptable, think about it.
I'm grateful it was the choice, hoax or not. Could be 10 times worse.

Now, who was at UCLA on June 25 taking this pic? Family? Staff?
Is it normal practice?
Later at coroners, yes, they do take pics.
But like that at hospital? I'm not from US, so I don't know what's ok there.
[and sorry for typos]
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 04:34:27 AM
Fake or not, this picture is disrespectful on all levels.  Even in Michael's supposed death, he is fair game. It's almost as if the media believe they have an entitlement to print this picture without any regard or respect to Michael's privacy as a human being. 

Having said that, the picture was used by the Prosecution with the family present in Court. You would think the family would condemn such a move if the picture was real, given the fact that photo would be in circulation and access to the public for many years to come.  They would also be questioning who took the photo, unless it came directly from them or was authorised by them to be used in the first place. 

The picture could be fake, but I agree with "2good2betrue". I've seen a number of deceased individuals in a hospital setting that vary in presentation.  So it could be real and it defintely could be fake.

Either way, disrespectful the media run with it like dogs on heat.
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 04:47:37 AM
Well, prosecution side knew the pic will be all over tabloids etc.
How much contact does prosecution have with family? Zero?  :|
Picture was shown in a way camera will catch it no doubt.. on purpose?
To "treat" media? To impress jurors? To upset everyone?
I mean at least for everyone within prosecution side it was obvious media
will feast over that photo. ..  confused/

I'm still curious who took such photo [supposedly on June 25 if we go pessimistic].
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 06:09:43 AM
It's probably staged but I think the angle of the photo is making his legs look shorter than they are. His body fits the entire bed, and those beds are built for people of all sizes. However I don't get why it's so blurry. It is not evidence either way for me.
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 09:43:22 AM


Who in the world has such short legs? Smurfs? I circled toes.
Last Edit: September 28, 2011, 09:46:17 AM by lorela
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 09:54:42 AM
+ "fences" of the gurney aren't ok
+ his arm is to low
+ if u measure his parts there's no fi

FAKE - it couldn't be more!
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 01:03:40 PM
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I'm still curious who took such photo [supposedly on June 25 if we go pessimistic].

replying to myself, d'oh, coroner did as autopsy page 10 says.
Well, still can be fake or staged all the way, it ~has~ to be believable after all!
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Re: Photo Used In Trial - MJ At The Hospital
September 28, 2011, 02:22:57 PM
Agree with you.... /pull hair/ Also the nose is not of  Michael  /scream/ /pull hair/ But they get tired sooner or later? bangbang   crash/ .....






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Last Edit: September 28, 2011, 02:28:16 PM by blankie
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