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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 01:45:39 AM
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@ilovemjforever maybe level 7 will be on 5th of Nov or 11/11/11.

So Janet is back in Aus...I just don't get it, what was so important in the trial that she had to come back, nothing that big happened, maybe she thought there would of been a verdict already (but I'm sure she knew that it would be delayed), so maybe it was just used to create confusion or a distraction maybe?


Look at the family  their actions and reactions

What are the actions and reactions of the Jackson fam?

@everyone, about November the 5th coming up does anybody expect something big?...Chandler was a shocker, I still can't get my head around that, is it a coincidence that he killed himself on that day or is he still alive, who knows?....it bugs me, I'm thinking of every option, but it makes no sense....
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 01:46:28 AM
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Applehead, if you rely on this video:
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there's a counter-revolution to take into account as well:
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Trojan horses everywhere. Division and selection.


Thank you Grace for this information.. So even if we delete our profile in facebook they still have access t our information.. Wow. that is scary.. How can we erase everything in facebook? is there someway to have everything deleted and they do not have access?


No, there's no way back.
Unfortunately, the moment you have decided in favour of Facebook, your data are already stored and will not be deleted anymore. They have your data and they will keep your data no matter what you do on the surface.

Do not click on an "I like it" thumbs up Facebook button either.
It installs a tracker on your desktop to accompany you through thick and thin internet.

Do not "identify" persons on photos and provide data about those. Not on Facebook, not on Google+, nowhere.
This makes photos identifyable. Google is working since quite a while on their android to make a feature available that says: "shoot photo of a person with mobile phone, realtime search on google servers for name and data, display data on android (including address, likings, whatever is available). No fiction, this is real.
Google is the w*ore of data storage (and in the future: of connecting the dots).

You think it's all fun but in fact it's letting burglars into your home at free will.
Imagine only the webspace, database, servers, technical staff they are running in the background.
From what $$$ are they getting paid?

ALWAYS ask yourself how any internet presence is being paid for, how they make money to keep it alive.
Not everybody has a generous soul like Badkolo and Souza to provide our place for free. In fact this attitude is the absolute exception. The web is not a christian missionary place. It is about $$$ and about linking and bonding everybody in.

Surf with Mozilla, install the Ghostery and other privacy add-ons and you will see how many trackers are hidden on each website you are visiting and are tracking down your visits.
If you don't have to pay for a service, you will provide data instead. Data are $$$ and they are being sold in order to get you into profiling clusters for marketing purposes. That's how the web is being financed these days.
The moment you log on to Facebook, your profile is already worth 100 $$$ and the value increases each day.
There are huge privacy protection debates going on.
Even governmental agencies do use facebook (and of course trackers).

I read about an IT specialist (who should know you would say) being checked by colleagues wanting to see how far they could go finding private data about him in the web. They did not only find photos, names of the entire family, they found the car, the car registration, the bank accounts, the addresses, where he was spending vacation, that he had several kids from different moms, everything. The researchers were so kind to interrupt their research and tell their colleague.

There's young folks used to these social networks claiming that "what do they want to do with the data - I have nothing to hide and everything under control".
Well, we have seen how much we have everything under control, right?
It is letting the burglars into our homes, stealing our freedom our ancestors have lost their lives for.
Add the CCTV cameras on the streets, the chip in your i-phone, the great apps that deliver your GPS location and you know what's going on.

Do not touch Facebook. Google and Yahoo are alike. It is all the same sources.
Twitter was forced to deliver all wikileaks followers' IP addresses.
Each and every single tweet will be stored in the database of US Congress.
What they want to do with it?
Knowing what is being talked about is essential for strategies.
Why would they store all the text if they did not want to analyze it?
Knowledge in time is the key.

I am not saying, don't use the web.
I am saying: do it with wisdom and keep your treasures out of it.
Do NEVER give any private data out, not in boards, not in chat, not in email, never.
Last Edit: November 02, 2011, 02:03:25 AM by Grace
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 02:00:29 AM
I really enjoyed the many good thought-provoking posts today, said so well!

This whole hoax and trial ending is such a beautiful or delicious conundrum! Like chess,  MJ the master has the opponent/s trapped 2 or 3 ways, guaranteed a checkmate. There really is this profound entertainment value behind this that goes with the hoax, but includes sting elements (the many ways citizens are being used by TPTB and not cared for).  Mesereau has agreed with you here that this is a cliffhanger that could go either way, with problems and rammifications for guilty or not, just as Grace has explained so well. 

Wishingstar,  I like your thought on DWTS relating to the seal stars.  MJ's hoax is in a way helping us to see another deeper layer behind so many themes around us today.  The seal shows immigrants arriving to become citizens who pursue "the American dream"-- the pursuit of freedom, wealth and happiness. American Idols are being churned out by the dozens each season, and the word 'Idol' in the Bible is something worshipped made of wood, stone etc. that has no real power to help. Like MJ's song Hollywood Tonight, the girl is pursuing her dream but finds it only looks good from afar.  MJ's hoax really is a fitting end to this age, and beginning to a new era of awakening and change.

UYI, one thing that bothers me about the Illusionist is that the Prince kills himself thinking he really killed Sophie. That is perhaps troubling morally for Eisenheim who created a deceiving and convincing illusion.  And MJ’s illusions can in reality have an effect on people. There were reports of suicide after June 25 but apparently they were not true. Evan Chandler did commit suicide Nov. 18,09 and we don’t know how far reaching at that time were MJ’s future plans for this hoax.  Maybe EC did not actually die, and the Illusionist is only a movie.





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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 02:02:55 AM
@Grace re: Facebook: Yikes!

Too late for most of us.
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 02:08:54 AM
Facebook cannot claim they hid what they are about.
They collect a book about a face.
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 02:14:26 AM
@MJonmind, I will def. watch that movie tonight...about Chandler didn't he die on November 5th 09 not November 18th 09.

It was only reported a few days later or something that he died on November the 5th, so maybe, he didn't die on November 5th but a little bit later in November. And it was said Nov 5th, to fit in with the hoax or something like that, but I have no clue.
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 02:16:45 AM
Yes, it was reported on 11/17/09 that Evan Chandler commited suicide on the 5th of November.
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 04:51:37 AM
Grace:

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Applehead, if you rely on this video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXLxiMemYc0[/youtube]

there's a counter-revolution to take into account as well:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ig4bZawisQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]

Trojan horses everywhere. Division and selection.

Grace believe me "I KNOW " about the second video ,but if you think that what I said is NOT TRUE,then you are wrong.Anonymus will DO IT and it will be exactly like they did with SONY PALYSTATION site  8-).Talking about PLAYING GAMES, yes it's a GAME,a mind GAME,a NEVER ENDIG GAME,and it will NEVER STOP until we will be AT PEACE with OURSELVES.



"The statement also refers to Sony’s recent court win that allowed the company to collect the IP addresses of any user who had visited GeoHot’s site. “You have victimized your customers for merely possessing information, and continue to target every person who seeks this information,” the statement reads. “In so doing you have violated the privacy of thousands.”

In the END it's always about L.O.V.E. !!!
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 05:41:58 AM
@Grace, a friend of mine says you don`t even need to push the facebook button. When it is there you are already ìn`. He also says they do have a profile of you although you are not in facebook. According to him the purpose simply is making money by f.e. advertisements. You may as well ask for all data being stored about you, which indeed might lead to your conclusion they know more about you than your family does. This only happens because you may be a potential client to make money with. I kept on telling him that he should not forget that we take into account the possibility of mass-control from a few mighty persons by supporting a system like that and that we should not underestimate the danger for our freedom of thinking, speech etc. But too bad he kept on saying it`s bullshit what we are talking about.
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 06:31:48 AM
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You know what: there is a thing  I just thought of.
On this document (as we can see) it say Robert W Murray  insted of R  for Robert.
BUT  MJ's other doctor is named  Arnold William Klein.
What if Klein was Suppose to have played the part that Murray now is playing
OR  they needed one of these documents.... Klein had one and  let them use it, but they had to change the name on it
(not hard with todays computers) BUT they forgot to change the W to an R.
So this is infact belongs to Klein! 

what do you think? 
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 08:36:00 AM
@WishingStar...interesting connection with DWTS.  I also think it's no coincidence that NG is on the show...at the same time as the trial.

Re: facebook.  I saw this awhile back and it scared the living shit outta me lol.  Unfortunately, in order to view it, you have to have a facebook acct and log into it....there is a reason for this which will become VERY clear once the video starts.  I don't use facebook anymore...never really did other than to play some cool games....but after seeing this, I don't use it at all.  Be forewarned...it's very well done but scary as hell (the thought of this happening).  I'm not technically skilled enough to know if this 'scenario' could actually happen...but if I had to bet on it, I'd bet it could.

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About Anonymous and the November 5th 'takedown' of facebook.  I had seen the first vid claiming they were taking Facebook down on the 5th....shortly after that I saw the other one saying it wasn't their claim.  It's got me thinking that maybe the first vid was from TPTB (or a sinister group)...so that when/if Facebook does go down, it will look like it was Anonymous.  Anonymous has been playing governments and corporations like fiddles...maybe TPTB are now 'playing' back.  Should some catastrophic 'event' occur shortly afterwards...the most used 'social network' will not be available to the people. 

Facebook, like any other 'tool', is not inherently 'evil' or 'good'....it is neutral.  It is the use/mode/motive of the user that gives it meaning...either good or bad.  There are those that 'use' Facebook for sinister purposes....but there are also many who 'use' it with good intentions.  Facebook has been a lifeline for many in the (r)evolution movements going on...and that, in itself, shows the value of it when used for 'good' reasons.  Either way, no matter what the 'tool' or 'technology', you gain something, you lose something.  It's up to us to determine the risk(s) and evaluate if it's worth it.

With L.O.V.E. always.

P.S.  Still no TS I see  :x
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 08:37:55 AM
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@ilovemjforever maybe level 7 will be on 5th of Nov or 11/11/11.

So Janet is back in Aus...I just don't get it, what was so important in the trial that she had to come back, nothing that big happened, maybe she thought there would of been a verdict already (but I'm sure she knew that it would be delayed), so maybe it was just used to create confusion or a distraction maybe?


Look at the family  their actions and reactions

What are the actions and reactions of the Jackson fam?

@everyone, about November the 5th coming up does anybody expect something big?...Chandler was a shocker, I still can't get my head around that, is it a coincidence that he killed himself on that day or is he still alive, who knows?....it bugs me, I'm thinking of every option, but it makes no sense....





If i am talking about the family their actions and reactions from which all of this begin, since the June 25, 2009, interviews, concerts,  travel to promote books, realitys
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 09:44:47 AM
Thanks Paula
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 11:28:19 AM
One last sentence on FB from my side and then I will move on and return to the kangaroo trial:
applehead, I did not say that you were wrong.
I said, there is a counter revolution to take into account.
BeTheChange was getting at that as well.
It's physics.
Last Edit: November 02, 2011, 11:30:54 AM by Grace
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Re: TIAI September 27
November 02, 2011, 11:37:17 AM
Anyone else wish TS would make an appearance - and Front (I can't even find the Back thread any more, it's been so long!)?
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