TIAI September 27

[Grace]

The lost hour reminds me of the lost 30 minutes (or more maybe, since the Cirque show was supposed to start t 11.00 pm) at the Mirage with Jordie Chandler. This has been bugging me for years. What happened there? Why was Jordie so quiet and Mike so upset? Why would Mike suddenly want Jordie to sleep in his room? Why didn't they go to the show? I have had the most disturbing thoughts about this and to be clear: not about Michael molesting the boy! I would really want to know what made him so upset. Who caused it? Who did they meet in those minutes and what did they do to him (MJ) or the boy? The only ones that probably know are Jordie and Michael. If this is a sting against Tom Sneddon et al, and I really believe that's a huge possibility, then Jordy must be a key player. Let's not forget that, other than the Arvizo's, Jordie was forced into saying things that never happened. He was drugged and forced and he never wanted to testify against him. That is the biggest mistake the rats made back then and that is why they never made it to trial, because other then Jordie's implanted false memories by Torbiner and Chandler, they had nothing.

 

 Did I get that correctly: they did come back without having been at the show?
 
 I am not familiar with all details so I am stating my impression from the transcript.
 All is fiction, I am just thinking out loud without claiming any substance.
 
 Two possibilities could explain the transcript and the painted situation:
 a) June Chandler was lying all way down. That cited convo sounds definitely scripted.
 b) Somebody did something to Jordie and Michael got to know about it that night and wanted to protect Jordie by sleeping in his room. This could include sexual abuse of Jordie by another person which Michael wanted to prevent by staying with him.
 
 I ran into this blog with a theory about June Chandler and Michael and the timeline of events.
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 Rejection and / or a bad conscience may lead to enormous aggressions and could explain the foul play.
 The fact that Jordie was drugged for telling lies and the fact that Jordie knew so well to explain sexual abuse would rather get me into thinking that he was a real abuse victim.  Some abusers will drug their victims, those working for TPTB do both.
 
 IMO the truth may be a mélange of both, a) and b).
 The accusers had to know fine details about what happens during abuse to make the story believable. That would indicate they were involved themselves in such acts. Same applies to Jordie IMHO. You cannot tell somebody to construct a complicated story, even not under drugs. But you may replace figures in existing stories. I think that's way more realistic.
 
 (Add.: What jumped at me from that blog mentioned above was the statement that something allegedly happened between Michael and Jordie at occasion of a stay in Monaco. JCC on MJHD sent us to "Princess Grace" in 2009. Princess Grace lived in Monaco. All of JCC's comments are to be found here:
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 and make a lot of sense in retrospective. If JCC was a "true" informer then, we may conclude that the Chandler case most likely was the straw that broke the camel's back for Michael as to do something about rightening this screaming injust situation.)

[~Souza~]

They indeed never made it to the show, you got that right. All the thoughts you posted have been running through my mind as well.

[Shining light]

 I really feel this is the real show in the courtroom! Maybe someone was really murdered that day but it was not MJ. Maybe it was one of his body doubles or a Mannequin placed there after the doctor left the room,in which it was attempted murder. Which would mean Latoya would be right this is a straight up murder trial. But they got the wrong target because Michael out thunk them. It would make sense then that he is being protected from then on because his life is in danger.  TS said we could make a prediction as to when the next level will be. I predict the next level "7" will be October 28 and the subject may be MICHAEL IS ALIVE AND SHOCKED THE WORLD!
Just by the way TS was so excited about the start of the trial I feel the end of the trial has to have a shocking end to it. Its just a guess,please no one hold me to anything.  Regardless I will watch the court until its end because I really feel"This Is it"! what better platform to shock the world than on television where all the world can view it live or the media will report it instantly.

[fatalkiss26]

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latex gloves again? Why on the cover of a magazine displayed like this?  WTF??

[BeTheChange]

Wow...this 'safe procedures' video that Dr. Shafer is narrating is very educational...and very damning for Murray.  It's showing every single thing Murray didn't have on hand and every single thing he didn't do to 'save' MJ.
 
It will be interesting to see the cross-examination of Shafer...the guy is super smart and extremely knowledgeable.
 
On another note...I think I heard on HLN that there's no court tomorrow...or that the defense won't be presenting their case until Friday. 
 
With L.O.V.E. always.

[GINAFELICIA]

@TS    The clock is ticking, the end is coming......it's scary but at least we'll know the truth errrr

[~Souza~]

Dr. Shafer explained how Michael couldn't have injected himself (it's not easy to get enough propofol in the syringe and takes a while) and how that bottle in the IV bag also wouldn't have done much. So how exactly did Murray gave him the overdose?

[SimPattyK]

You're welcome Curls.  beerchug

Wanted to add a video where Chernoff gives 2 different lengths of time about Murray's CPR performance... :lol: another tIME discrepancy.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teb2UEwHIwY&list=FLLFYv_he71bAmtxm-sMKgAQ&index=1[/youtube]

Guess WHO is juggling with the facts/DEtAiLS? ........ suspicious//



Mr Prankster Clown aka Michael Jackson!!!

 lolol/

And....there was a REAL CLOWN outside the courthouse at the trial!!!!  Maybe someone we know???

Just for FUN post!  :lol: :lol:
I had found this on the internet some time ago and I wanted to share it with related to your previous posts here ^^ lol

[wishingstar]

Wow...this 'safe procedures' video that Dr. Shafer is narrating is very educational...and very damning for Murray.  It's showing every single thing Murray didn't have on hand and every single thing he didn't do to 'save' MJ.
 
It will be interesting to see the cross-examination of Shafer...the guy is super smart and extremely knowledgeable.
 
On another note...I think I heard on HLN that there's no court tomorrow...or that the defense won't be presenting their case until Friday. 
 
With L.O.V.E. always.

I managed to watch a little bit of this today.  Yes, that video was crazy detailed with all the safety procedures for putting a patient under sedation.  It was quite the learning "episode".  I just kept thinking to myself, "...how on Earth would anyone outside the true anesthesia community ever know if all this is the truth.....they could tell us anything."  That thought led me to remember the old game show Liar's Club.  It had a three celebrity panel, they were given a strange looking object, one told the truth of what the object actually was, the other two told lies about the object.  The player then had to guess which celebrity was telling the truth and which two were lying.  It was always funny, and they had some weird looking objects for sure.  All those safety objects just reminded so much of this old show.  Who knows.  Perhaps we needed Ariel from the The Little Mermaid....she said a fork was a digglehopper to brush hair with, lol.  Here are links to Liar's Club if you want to check it out:

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Blessings

[wishingstar]

@SimPattyK..........


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So many have sung this song, but Sarah Vaughan is amazing.......enjoy!


Blessings

[PureLove]

Just wondering if any of you ever heard this before.  JVM was interviewing Lindsay L's dad cuz she has court tomorrow, and he said that the GOvernor of Cali has something going on because of prescription drugs and celebs. 
WHAT??  JVM didn't question or dispute his statement as though it is common knowledge..or...not suppose to be known.
What in the world is he talking about is going on with the gov. of cali and drugs/celebs???

Now that is interesting info. It can be related with the sting of this hoax. I'm very curious now. Thank you for sharing fordtocarr.

[SimPattyK]

@SimPattyK..........
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So many have sung this song, but Sarah Vaughan is amazing.......enjoy!
Blessings

ooohhh!! If you KNEW my sweet wishingstar! If you knew how much joy you gave me by just posting this video!!

It's because my favorite French singer also sings this song on her last released album....I'm talking about Patricia Kaas ! and her French version of the song:
 OU SONT LES CLOWNS ? ou FAITES ENTRER LES CLOWNS
During her concert-show, when she sings this song she has a RED BALLOON and a dancer dressed as a clown on stage with her... I'm talking about her last album/tour KABARET - which is intended to pay homage to the '30s, especially the artists from the '30s, like Marlene Dietrich for example who was/is her idol.
And now....this connection to Michael's clowns... hummm Patricia is also crazy about color PURPLE, she even has a song about it "La nuit est mauve"...and I have found other "musical" connections like that between her and Michael. I wrote "musical" and not hoax-connection because I am not really convinced that Patricia is involved or not in the hoax or if she just happens to love Michael. After his 'death" she gave a few interviews where she spoke very nicely about him, in a very admiring tone... so....

Here is the video from her show... you can also notice she sings on a CHECKERED black & white floor!! Just like Michael in Ghosts-video and on the cover of "Blood on the dance floor". The stage decor also has a LADDER - which also makes me think about letter H , Elvis & the ladder that I discussed about in the topic on "Dr. House".... there are many many many artistic-links between them all!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9oU9MmBSSI[/youtube]

[wishingstar]

@SimPattyK..........
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So many have sung this song, but Sarah Vaughan is amazing.......enjoy!
Blessings

ooohhh!! If you KNEW my sweet wishingstar! If you knew how much joy you gave me by just posting this video!!

It's because my favorite French singer also sings this song on her last released album....I'm talking about Patricia Kaas ! and her French version of the song:
 OU SONT LES CLOWNS ? ou FAITES ENTRER LES CLOWNS
During her concert-show, when she sings this song she has a RED BALLOON and a dancer dressed as a clown on stage with her... I'm talking about her last album/tour KABARET - which is intended to pay homage to the '30s, especially the artists from the '30s, like Marlene Dietrich for example who was/is her idol.
And now....this connection to Michael's clowns... hummm Patricia is also crazy about color PURPLE, she even has a song about it "La nuit est mauve"...and I have found other "musical" connections like that between her and Michael. I wrote "musical" and not hoax-connection because I am not really convinced that Patricia is involved or not in the hoax or if she just happens to love Michael. After his 'death" she gave a few interviews where she spoke very nicely about him, in a very admiring tone... so....

Here is the video from her show... you can also notice she sings on a CHECKERED black & white floor!! Just like Michael in Ghosts-video and on the cover of "Blood on the dance floor". The stage decor also has a LADDER - which also makes me think about letter H , Elvis & the ladder that I discussed about in the topic on "Dr. House".... there are many many many artistic-links between them all!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9oU9MmBSSI[/youtube]

Wow.....wow...wow....a thousands wow's........I couln't even make it past the first few bars before the tears started. This song always makes me emotional.....but in French, with her setting........simply wow.  Thank YOU for posting it.......another brilliant thing to share.  I love it so much! I have really come to love this artist....I had never heard of her before  :oops:  But, she is amazing for sure.  Your eye for details astounds me still.......you're amazing.  I am so glad you liked the video......if I can bring a little joy to a friend's day, I am indeed blessed!
Have a brilliant day! : )

Blessings!
 

[IbrahimHosni]

Hi...I'm back........sorry but honestly I am a little bit scared because of the picture..what is your opinion about it??

To be honest, I'm a little scared too but I am NOT giving up. I'm NOT throwing in the towel after 2 years. I'm not.

However, about the picture, why does he have straight hair? On June 24, according to the clip from TII, he had curly hair. Why was his hair straightened on that gourney? o.O

This photo, it is a fake look that hand /judge/ lolol/
 

Another Pic Showed Up In Court, But It's Kinda Weird.....Here Is Why "The date on the tiles beside his body appears to read August 25th, 2009 -- but MJ's autopsy doctor Christopher Rogers claims the date is wrong ... it should read June 25th. " Does It Mean Anything?? 2+5=7 , 9-2=7 7/7???

[PureLove]

Did you guys see this video? :lol:

Def. Atty. FLanagan asks "isn't Murray a doctor?"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SaodS3d5h8&feature=share[/youtube]