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[Im_convincedmjalive]

The seal IS in the courtroom. The background behind the seal is different from the rest below it. On day 1 they did zoom the camera towards the seal (2:50-3:00):

So this is not provided by InSession, but it was actually added to the hoax courtroom.

I see what your talking about and just to be clear I never said there was no seal in the actual courtroom. I was only saying the seal we see when the camera goes off is not the one hanging on the wall. When the camera goes up toward the seal I can see the different wall pattern, the camera only catches the bottom left side, then it is like a quick switch of an image around the 2:57 mark. It looks like a slide show, then it goes back and forth for a quick second and then stays still on the seal that looks more like a created image. I wish I could be a fly on the wall. fresse/

There is some freaky stuff happening. The 2 lady witnesses that were up there for a minute. What was the point?

[TheMoonIsDancing]

The seal IS in the courtroom. The background behind the seal is different from the rest below it. On day 1 they did zoom the camera towards the seal (2:50-3:00):

So this is not provided by InSession, but it was actually added to the hoax courtroom.

Thanks Souza! I knew I wasn't crazy!  lolol/
mj_bad/

[monstertooty]

Regarding Murray's bald spot.  It has become clear to me that we are supposed to see Murray's thinage...LOL.  I beLIEve it may be a clue letting us know he is Michael.  HLN showed the infamous Pepsi footage this evening.  Is anybody seeing where I am going with this?  ;)

[TheMoonIsDancing]

The seal IS in the courtroom. The background behind the seal is different from the rest below it. On day 1 they did zoom the camera towards the seal (2:50-3:00):

So this is not provided by InSession, but it was actually added to the hoax courtroom.

I see what your talking about and just to be clear I never said there was no seal in the actual courtroom. I was only saying the seal we see when the camera goes off is not the one hanging on the wall. When the camera goes up toward the seal I can see the different wall pattern, the camera only catches the bottom left side, then it is like a quick switch of an image around the 2:57 mark. It looks like a slide show, then it goes back and forth for a quick second and then stays still on the seal that looks more like a created image. I wish I could be a fly on the wall. fresse/

There is some freaky stuff happening. The 2 lady witnesses that were up there for a minute. What was the point?

I know exactly what you are talking about Imconvinced.
HLN said that they zoom in to the seal and back out after break. But they didn't explain why it cuts out. If its 'Live' it should go straight to the seal and not cut out.

[BeTheChange]

@fatalkiss...I hope your daughter will be ok...I know how tough those visits to the hospital can be.  And thank you for sharing the gurney info...more 'proof' that the photo is fake.  You mentioned they are sometimes found in homes for 'hospice' care.  Might tie in with the 'real dead body' (hospice patient) theory....might tie in with nothing at all...who the heck knows anymore  :lol:

I agree with the comments about today being a 'weird' trial day...things were odd at times.  Not sure if anyone noticed on HLN when they came back from commercial and thought they were flipping to the trial...but the picture went to a live feed of an empty room (no people), with what looked like a table and a wide screen against the wall...and at the bottom of the screen, to the right, it said USC Marshall.  I googled it but all I get is USC Marshall School of Business  :?:   Maybe they have an office in the building?  It made absolutely no sense...after a few seconds, the camera came back to the HLN reporter (think it was Vinnie Politan)...who didn't know what the heck was going on lol...and it took another 2 minutes or so for them to get the trial feed back.  Might have absolutely nothing to do with the hoax...but it sure was strange  bangbang I didn't note the time...but I think it was during Dr. Nguyen's testimony (and what the heck was that about???).  Or, as mentioned by Im_convinced (who I agree is doing a great job  ::P )...the 2 one-minute witnesses...you'd literally miss them if you blinked.  That wasn't even worth their cab fare  :lol:

Both TS and Front have been 'absent' lately...at least on the forum lol.  It sure would be nice to see a post sometime soon....from either screen-name  ;) .

With L.O.V.E. always.

[TheMoonIsDancing]

Regarding Murray's bald spot.  It has become clear to me that we are supposed to see Murray's thinage...LOL.  I beLIEve it may be a clue letting us know he is Michael.  HLN showed the infamous Pepsi footage this evening.  Is anybody seeing where I am going with this?  ;)

Yes i saw hln show the pepsi burn footage. You know, just from watching the coverage on HLN, Ive been getting a feeling that they are apart of the hoax. Why not? They will definitely gain more fame and noteriety than they could ever imagine through this hoax! They give a lot of information and have a lot of good interviews, thats all I'll say.

[bec]

@Monster, yes I know what you mean. This is from 2/7/10 and it remains a strong theory:

the murray question
has long bothered me, i think we talked about this before, like theres something we arent getting about murray, he stands for something, his role is important, else why have him? why did michael NEED a doctor or anyone at all to be involved in this hoax?
well i figured it out, with all the media circus this weekend, i figured it out
murray IS michael... not physically but metaphorically
murray is a professional black man fallen from grace, being accused of a horrible crime, outrageous allegations, his private and personal life paraded before the cameras on the evening news for all to see and mock
his child support issues, his debt, his wives and ex's and girlfriend, hes portrayed as incompetant (leaving the room while michael was under to talk to his girlfriend, not calling 911, one armed cpr, etc) the media has convicted him of a crime and proclaimed him guilty before the police even sealed the "crime scene"
remember, the police didnt consider it a crime scene until the media did, days later, family goes in and out etc
meanwhile the tabloids have targeted murray and proclaimed him michael's killer
murrays friends and patients and supporters are small voices in the sea of media bias saying wait, no, its not true, hes a holistic doctor, he doesnt perscribe drugs, he uses vitamens and herbs and holistic approaches
the media calls him dr death and dr feel good, drugs drugs drugs, shadey doc, did michael's bidding, provided powerful drugs at will
so, hes painted as something he is not, they sway perception and turn this man into a monster
meanwhile, the LAPD and now the DA are FOLLOWING the media... and feel pressure to bring a case, the MEDIA are the ones who say manslaughter, murder, charges, hes guilty, the feds have ALWAYS followed the media in this case
so, just like in 2005, when, thanks to the FBI files, the DA had ZERO evidence on michael and conspired to create a case on false pretence, to try and bring him down, NOW we have murray
same situation.

[monstertooty]

Jane Valez and Dr. Drew have definately chilled on the judgemental commentary.  It's as if the hoax has finally dawned on them.  I'm not so sure about Nancy but we will see.  It seems that some of the guests they bring on are purposely slamming Murray in order to provoke a response.....No matter who is in on it I am becoming more and more sure that Murray is Michael hiding in plain  sight behind the mask.

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

The pace that all this is coming out at us is so fast that I'm in a more watching the passing parade mode because of time issues.

so true it all coming to a pivitol moment isnt it? so many things to watch, see, read, re-watch, re- read etc, every day. such an exciting time. go MJ peace and luck to you.

[marisjm]

thanks  bearhug

She isn't out of the woods yet, will probably be in the ICU a few days, I just got home and had to check in on the drama :)
Her doctor pointed out something though...

He says to me " now, your daughter is in full blown DKA ( Diabetic Keto acidosis) , what if I were to "guess" on how much insulin I should give her?"  WTF??

This is a man who is a captain in the navy who is beyond retirement age , in his late 50's who has been a medical doctor ( pediatric endocrinologist ) for over 27 years....he doesn't GUESS. He KNOWS. Thats what he was trained to do and what he went to school for. For a doctor to sit there and say " oh we don't know how much medicine to give a patient, it depends on seconds to minutes is bull@#$%. She is either A) not a doctor B) just really stupid.  I'm leaning towards A or she was never a doctor in that hospital that day.

Her DR said, his opinion? She is lying...he didn't say on what aspect but she was lying.

I hope your daughter gets well soon!

[TheMoonIsDancing]

HLN Title: "The disappearing Jacksons?"  lolol/ lolol/ lolol/ lolol/ lolol/
This pertains to the Jackson family member's absence from court.
Is it REALLY going to take a solid month for the public to realize they are being hoaxed?!
Many of those who are close to MJ are calling this trial a "joke".

joke   (jk)
n. 1. Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line. 2. A mischievous trick; a prank. 3. An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation. 4. Informal a. Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke. b. An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office. v. joked, jok·ing, jokes  v.intr. 1. To tell or play jokes; jest. 2. To speak in fun; be facetious. v.tr. To make fun of; tease

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/joke

If the ones who know Michael Joe Jackson intimately are calling this trial a joke, then its even more evidence that this is a hoax. If it weren't, they would want justice for Michael and not say that the trial is stupid and pointless.

[BeTheChange]

@Monster...so you mean Murray is Mike physically, not metaphorically?  Just trying to understand your theory...cause I've gone 'there' for both theories.  (@bec..was that one of your posts?  If so, very well put!)

As for the physical theory...the 'holes' I can't seem to reconcile are Murray's height, his arms (in pics where he's wearing a T-shirt), and now thanks to the pedicure...his bare legs  :lol:   There were a couple times I honestly thought I was seeing Mike's eyes in Murray last week...but then I think maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see.  We've seen his height both in pics and in video.  I don't know much about photography or special effects...but I'm sure his height (and perhaps even arms and legs) could be 'altered' in pics if someone wanted to.  But live video?  Wouldn't that be harder to do?  I honestly don't know...if someone who is talented with photography and/or camera tricks knows the answer, please share.

Maybe then I could lay one theory to rest  :?

@Moon...re: the disappearing Jacksons  :lol: ...didn't Majestik mention something about 'people going missing'  :lol:   :lol: .  As for a 'solid month'...that's being pretty optimistic lol.

With L.O.V.E. always.

[bec]

The seal IS in the courtroom. The background behind the seal is different from the rest below it. On day 1 they did zoom the camera towards the seal (2:50-3:00):

So this is not provided by InSession, but it was actually added to the hoax courtroom.

I see what your talking about and just to be clear I never said there was no seal in the actual courtroom. I was only saying the seal we see when the camera goes off is not the one hanging on the wall. When the camera goes up toward the seal I can see the different wall pattern, the camera only catches the bottom left side, then it is like a quick switch of an image around the 2:57 mark. It looks like a slide show, then it goes back and forth for a quick second and then stays still on the seal that looks more like a created image. I wish I could be a fly on the wall. fresse/

There is some freaky stuff happening. The 2 lady witnesses that were up there for a minute. What was the point?

I know exactly what you are talking about Imconvinced.
HLN said that they zoom in to the seal and back out after break. But they didn't explain why it cuts out. If its 'Live' it should go straight to the seal and not cut out.

Because it's two different cameras. One trained on the seal at all times, it's a straight on, eye level view. The other is one of the multiple floor cameras filming the proceedings. The floor camera that pans up films the 3D seal and the 3D wall relief decoration at an upward and sideways angle. This accounts for the slight difference in appearance of the "stripes". The stripes are likely wood slats laid in a vertical position: _n_n_n_ <--like that. Then the floor camera is faded to the eye-level seal camera for breaks.

[TheMoonIsDancing]

@Monster, yes I know what you mean. This is from 2/7/10 and it remains a strong theory:

the murray question
has long bothered me, i think we talked about this before, like theres something we arent getting about murray, he stands for something, his role is important, else why have him? why did michael NEED a doctor or anyone at all to be involved in this hoax?
well i figured it out, with all the media circus this weekend, i figured it out
murray IS michael... not physically but metaphorically
murray is a professional black man fallen from grace, being accused of a horrible crime, outrageous allegations, his private and personal life paraded before the cameras on the evening news for all to see and mock
his child support issues, his debt, his wives and ex's and girlfriend, hes portrayed as incompetant (leaving the room while michael was under to talk to his girlfriend, not calling 911, one armed cpr, etc) the media has convicted him of a crime and proclaimed him guilty before the police even sealed the "crime scene"
remember, the police didnt consider it a crime scene until the media did, days later, family goes in and out etc
meanwhile the tabloids have targeted murray and proclaimed him michael's killer
murrays friends and patients and supporters are small voices in the sea of media bias saying wait, no, its not true, hes a holistic doctor, he doesnt perscribe drugs, he uses vitamens and herbs and holistic approaches
the media calls him dr death and dr feel good, drugs drugs drugs, shadey doc, did michael's bidding, provided powerful drugs at will
so, hes painted as something he is not, they sway perception and turn this man into a monster
meanwhile, the LAPD and now the DA are FOLLOWING the media... and feel pressure to bring a case, the MEDIA are the ones who say manslaughter, murder, charges, hes guilty, the feds have ALWAYS followed the media in this case
so, just like in 2005, when, thanks to the FBI files, the DA had ZERO evidence on michael and conspired to create a case on false pretence, to try and bring him down, NOW we have murray
same situation.

Excellent theory. Makes absolute sense. A natural healing doctor overdoses the King of Pop?? Maybe if the media reported the true story, Conrad Murray wouldn't have even been a suspect in MJ's 'death'. The 'troot will prevail'. The right and just thing will be done.

[Adi]

Yep I agree things are happening at a rapid pace...it's hard to keep up with all the info and the threads....but it is just brilliant!

I watched those 2 witnesses today who were barely on and off the stand in a blink of an eye (blink and you might miss it  :lol: ) and I thought the same...what the hell was the use of their testimony??? Anway - the footage of the elevator lobby and the janitor and the live feed lost was all hilarious.

Good catch to by SeeingClues about the lady doctor and her similarity in dress to that golden picture of MJ.

@Monstertooty - I can see where you are going with it. I think Murray is definitely metaphorically representing Michael and  what he endured in 2005. I have thought this for a long time and especially after TMZ had that picture of Murray earlier this year at the Prelim trial with the MJ2KV subliminally written on the fence behind him.

After seeing Murray's thinnage on top, almost exactly where the Pepsi burn was, neither have I  stopped thinking Murray may very well be Michael in disguise (I know some others don't agree on this...but this is my opinion).  Hidden in plain view...lol. I mentioned on another thread that I feel like I'm in that movie "The Usual Suspects" where the answers were right in front of the Detective the whole time (if anyone has seen it, you'll get what I mean)

Anyway - I am sure it will all unfold and eventually we will know either way. 8-)

Interesting day today from the parts I have managed to see and read about. The judge said tomorrow there will be drama because of the rain headed to LA...I wonder if he has a double meaning to that?? could there be drama in the courtroom tomorrow which the media will gorge on??   :lol: