a video is worth a thousand words!! lets re-examine something shall we???

[suesuzzfaithkeeper]

@suesuzzfaithkeeper you say that you were never monitorized by any anything while you were given an anesthetic? They gave you the shot without anything else? Without having a monitor  for you heart and pulse?

hey anna!!
ohh no!!..it was just like the video posted..i was hooked up to everything and very well watched and monitor..they always start an IV and give you a mix of medications to start relax you then they knock your azz out lolo..i was just saying some get tubed some dont it depends on the procedure or operation but either way oxygen was used..all the equiment was used on me as well..just like video..sorry if i didnt make that clear..hope this helps anna..
huggs n love n faith to all
suzz

[EarthAngel77]

And who was giving him a bath??   /scream/

[hesouttamylife]

Never believed the propofol story because of the missing oxygen piece and because I know in my heart that Michael was not that weak to lay down and accept a death dose. I still believe that story was purposely fabricated to make it appear that Murray was following his orders and doing what he was instructed to do because I still believe (contrary to most) that his life was in danger.  Propofol?  Why out of all the drugs in the world was a drug no one would readily recognize the culprit?  So that it would be easier to fool the public and pull off a bogus trial with a drug many had no familiarity with.  It bought time.  Michael dead was hard enough to ingest.  People were drowning in grief and disbelief, very emotional, myself included initially.  No one was thinking.  No one was questioning.  We were just empty and shocked and torn apart.  My initial feelings when I heard the news was heaven forbid, they finally killed him, worked him to death  /pull hair/    Then comes the visuals and other bits and pieces to the puzzle; the flat body on the stretcher, the staff being fired immediately, no one seeing the body being  worked on or brought down, the footage from the 0-2 last rehearsals.  Joe Jackson :shock: compassion zero… and finally that ambulance picture and the paramedics description which didn’t match.   And then comes the named culprit, PROPOFOL :?: I was like what the hell is this and why have we never heard of Michael taking this drug before,  not until he’s “dead" and can’t speak for himself?  That’s when my doubt, that 6th sense kicked in.  Something, something… something, something just ain’t right.  Hello, death hoax, can I come in respect/ and I’ve been here ever since.

[suspicious mind]

and this was also supposed to have been done throughout the history tour also.  WTF?? why has the doctor who supposedly did this then not looked at? this is the very thing that made me know something was not right. if murray was this bad negligent he would have to face more charges than this , wouldn't he ? why why why would jermaine act like this is no biggie that michael had to have this to sleep? come on!!

[suesuzzfaithkeeper]

after mj so called "death" would we even have known about Propofol if the nurse didnt say anything? first we heard heart attack, coma, then the drugs..then the one dr they found that was giving mj propofol during one of his tours to sleep...
while when we watch living with michael jackson the part with liz taylor decorating his home for christmas as mj sleeps..and he states himself that hes hard to wake up!!!!
and wasnt it said on 9/11 that mj over slept??..i can understand from going off stage after concert the energy one must feel..seen enough behind the scenes that some do take sleep aids but from first hand experience of having a long azz stay in the hospital and my IV's had to be changed sometimes up to 5 times a day "the site" one would think if mj was having in IV every night arms legs where ever they put it would get very very sore..i know that for fact!!..even heating pads and ice they gave me didnt help the pain from the IV's sites..
huggs n love n faith to all..
suzz

[hesouttamylife]

as for that trial, why weren’t the “girls” who supposedly were instructed and seen removing bags and stuff from a storage place not questioned on the stand?  That in my eyes was integral to the case, had it been real.  Too many open ends that were obviously left wide open for this trial to have been real. 

The only time I had ever heard of Michael having trouble sleeping is when he was on tour and during that trumped up trial.  Not during rehearsals.

[suspicious mind]

as for that trial, why weren’t the “girls” who supposedly were instructed and seen removing bags and stuff from a storage place not questioned on the stand?  That in my eyes was integral to the case, had it been real.  Too many open ends that were obviously left wide open for this trial to have been real. 

The only time I had ever heard of Michael having trouble sleeping is when he was on tour and during that trumped up trial.  Not during rehearsals.

far as i am concerned there is a llllllllllllooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg list of why didn't they call this person and why didn't they pursue this line of questioning ect.

[suesuzzfaithkeeper]

And who was giving him a bath??   /scream/

oh earthangel77..not to worry i was giving him a bath.. 8-) lolol/

[YouRnotAlone7]

And who was giving him a bath??   /scream/

oh earthangel77..not to worry i was giving him a bath.. 8-) lolol/

 lolol/  : : : : : : :

[suesuzzfaithkeeper]

as for that trial, why weren’t the “girls” who supposedly were instructed and seen removing bags and stuff from a storage place not questioned on the stand?  That in my eyes was integral to the case, had it been real.  Too many open ends that were obviously left wide open for this trial to have been real. 

The only time I had ever heard of Michael having trouble sleeping is when he was on tour and during that trumped up trial.  Not during rehearsals.

far as i am concerned there is a llllllllllllooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg list of why didn't they call this person and why didn't they pursue this line of questioning ect.

i agree 1000%
even if it is a fake trial..
huggs n love n faith bearhug
suzz

[suesuzzfaithkeeper]

And who was giving him a bath??   /scream/

oh earthangel77..not to worry i was giving him a bath.. 8-) lolol/

 lolol/  : : : : : : :

sorry .. couldn't help meself with that one 8-)..just wanted to make someone laugh n smile..glad it work lolol/
huggs n love n faith to you.. bearhug
suzz

[suesuzzfaithkeeper]

hey btw..
was it just me or do i need a new straight jacket to be given to me??...but while watching is it me or did the anthesiolgist not notice right away that the patient stop breathing? the Dr nudges her on the arm and points to the machine then he started saying see he has stop breathing??!!..do i need a new straight jacket?? is it just my eyes??
huggs n love n faith bearhug
suzz

[Grace]

It is CNN. Never forget the source.

[Tink]

But if they were hiding records of a back injury, that would make more sense if Michael was really at Cedar's instead. Kenny & Phillips were helping to plan the Hoax, because AEG was in as deep as Michael?

[gwynned]

Also, when given propofol, you must be "intubated", the tube that goes down your throat, to which the oxygen is then administered through. I don't recall any talk of MJ being "intubated"by Murray or any intubation equipment being found... just mention of an oxygen mask and tank...so this is another reason why this NEVER happened!

It is really sad that "society" is so brainwashed that they automatically believe the "crap" that they are "fed" by the media!...seems like we do more research then all the media, lawyers and general public, put together do!

May I ask you a question?  Do you believe the Gabby Giffords story?  Do you believe Anders Brevik killed 77 people in Norway?

I ask this because I have investigated these stories and determined that they never happened.  However, if I had not investigated or become suspicious of the media due to my research with this hoax, I would have believed them all to be real.  My guess is that many, if not most, people on this forum, while certain that Michael manipulated the media and created a hoax, accept at face value the many absurd news stories out there.