TIAI August 17

[bec]

It would seem that all the 2012 dates favor Elvis (8 ), not Michael (7).

Those are great photo montages, SimPattyK, welcome to the forum.
I agree with whoever brought up that the false alarm BAM dates (Halloween 09, Jan 2010, summer 2010, etc) were probably included to keep our interest in the hoax. If we were looking at only
hints of a possible comeback of 2012 in July of 2009, I think we all might have given up and gone home after the burial.
2012 sounds a million years away, still. We are looking at trial starting within days. 2012 to me means Murray is to complete trial and then some...
and then some? Some what? What comes after trial? Has anyone speculated on this possibility? What happens if Murray is acquitted (or convicted) and Michael isn't back yet? I don't think I've seen a theory yet that includes a scenario after trial. This is fairly uncharted theory territory  :? 

[wishingstar]

Hello and welcome SimPattyK.....

Great to have you here.....and great first post!  I love the numbers.......they are such a road-map to me for some reason.  Thanks for pointing those out....it's amazing to see them all together like that.
Hope you enjoy it around here...looking forward to your posts!
Blessings to you!

[Andrea]

It would seem that all the 2012 dates favor Elvis (8 ), not Michael (7).

Those are great photo montages, SimPattyK, welcome to the forum.
I agree with whoever brought up that the false alarm BAM dates (Halloween 09, Jan 2010, summer 2010, etc) were probably included to keep our interest in the hoax. If we were looking at only
hints of a possible comeback of 2012 in July of 2009, I think we all might have given up and gone home after the burial.

2012 sounds a million years away, still. We are looking at trial starting within days. 2012 to me means Murray is to complete trial and then some...

and then some? Some what? What comes after trial? Has anyone speculated on this possibility? What happens if Murray is acquitted (or convicted) and Michael isn't back yet? I don't think I've seen a theory yet that includes a scenario after trial. This is fairly uncharted theory territory  :?

Uncharted territory, yes.  And maybe that's the point.  We've been waiting for over two years for not only Michael's return but for this trial to happen and the general consensus has been - the trial must happen then Michael will come back.  But what if he doesn't right away?  How much longer can this trial be delayed and once it starts, how long will it last?  IF Murray is found guilty and Michael doesn't pop out and say "here I am!", what will happen?  We'll keep watchin' I guess.  If Murray is found guilty and we know he's not because Michael is alive then it would show a miscarriage of justice, a big FAIL to the whole court system for finding an innocent man guilty.  It's happened before.  But I'm starting to over-speculate now.  And I agree with you that the previous potential BAM dates were a way to keep us here, I can see some believers hearing 2012 in 2009 and saying "nuts to this".  But the hope that everyday is a possible BAM day keeps us here and if we need to wait longer, fine, I'll still be here.  And just think - none of us would "know" each other if not for Michael and his hoax.

P.S. @ SimPattyK - awesome post, love the numbers!

[Mish1981]

Just thinking out loud and perhaps someone can help on this thought because I can't completely wrap my head around it. If Murray goes to trial and let's say he's found guilty, Michael afterwards comes back, how has the justice system failed? Does it happen yes all the time, but if the courts (in this particular case with Murray) only go by what information they have then I'm confused. They didn't investigate if MJ was still alive or not, this is completely done with the speculation that he is in fact dead.

Another thought: Perhaps that's the point. The evidence is so skim, one thing is contradicting another therefore the investigation wasn't done completely.

Ah that whole process was enough to give me a headache.

Sorry for rambling.

[bec]

Mish, ramble away...

If Murray is found guilty, when Michael comes back, just by virtue of not being dead, he will prove that the justice system is broken.
But is that a goal?
The justice system never failed Michael. It was the media and the investigators (DA's office) that failed Michael. And the people... who followed the media as if it were the Pide Piper.
So when looking for possible targets of a sting operation, I tend to focus on the media and the people.... and this being a hoax court... since the guard has long been changed at the DA's office.
But anything is possible. Michael can prove anything he wants to prove, just by not being dead as most believe him to be, depending on how he has written the script.

[Mish1981]

Mish, ramble away...

If Murray is found guilty, when Michael comes back, just by virtue of not being dead, he will prove that the justice system is broken.
But is that a goal?
The justice system never failed Michael. It was the media and the investigators (DA's office) that failed Michael. And the people... who followed the media as if it were the Pide Piper.
So when looking for possible targets of a sting operation, I tend to focus on the media and the people.... and this being a hoax court... since the guard has long been changed at the DA's office.
But anything is possible. Michael can prove anything he wants to prove, just by not being dead as most believe him to be, depending on how he has written the script.

Your right he certainly can! I am still trying to wrap my head around things that's all. I know the media is at fault on so many levels not just for MJ but anyone else they decide to target.

[curls]

I have many thoughts about the trial filed away in my brain. I hear what you're saying Bec about us never really venturing beyond the trial, but I think I'm going to leave my thoughts where they are for now.  The trial has yet to start and until it does, I remain sceptical about it EVER happening, not because I'm being negative, but because I think there are many reasons why it might not.  It's all rather unknown territory isn't it?

[bec]

You're right curls, it is all unknown territory. Perhaps that's one of the reasons for the lack of conjecture after the trial... because there is still debate over whether it will ever even take place.

Hopefully we will find out the answers to this question, and more, very shortly.

[Sarahli]

Just adding another thought.. let's imagine that the trial takes place (and TS seems confident about that) and let's imagine that Murray is found guilty and goes to jail ... if we consider the possibility of a hoax/sting court then maybe that Murray will not really go in jail but we will be made to believe so. Another hoax in the hoax so to speak, that will somehow be useful to make things last longer because Murray will make an appeal ... etc.

[MJonmind]

The whole difficulty of this hoax is the unpredictable nature of the script that MJ has written, and the nature of
reality/illusions/lies. And there is absolutely NOTHING that is out of bounds happening. Like--MJ would never do this or that... mj_bad/

If Murray is convicted he will go to prison most likely--so would we have pics and video of him there conversing with gaurds
and other inmates, including more hoax clues? Exposing real prison problems?
If he is acquitted--I guess the fans will continue to be enraged, and he will stroll the streets with his nongrowing child.
There's still more MJ projects coming right--10 in 7 years? Albums, videos.
The tribute will happen with many more ongoing dots to connect.
Front and TS will occasionally post to encourage us on and not feel abandoned.
The news world and entertainment business will continue to give snatches of Michaelisms to make us perk up our ears.
Hoaxers will find more dates and numbers that work out as having 7, 9, 8, 117, 24, etc. significance.
At least now we have a deadline from TS, Jan. 1, 2013 for the BIG event.
Will we continue to see above hoax-type connections even after 2013?

I agree with PureLove that the so-called false Bam promises/predictions that have come and gone were to keep us from giving up too soon, before
we realized the extreme depth and far-reaching involvement of this hoax/ARG. michael-jackson/

The justice system is broken, the media world is broken, the entertainment business is tired and supersaturated, the governments are bankrupt,
children are continuing to be abused, the earth is not keeping up with man's use of its resources, religions may blend as this generation just wants
love and freedom not more control, on and on.
There has been and always will be good people, evil people, and good people can become evil, and vica versa.

Bottom line, I love Michael, I love being here, and will keep on watching because I haven't got a clue what's going to happen down the line. fresse/

[SimPattyK]

[...]Those are great photo montages, SimPattyK, welcome to the forum.[...]

Thank you!

Hello and welcome SimPattyK.....
Great to have you here.....and great first post!  I love the numbers.......they are such a road-map to me for some reason.  Thanks for pointing those out....it's amazing to see them all together like that.
Hope you enjoy it around here...looking forward to your posts!
Blessings to you!

Thank you, that's nice! yes I like the forum ;) Much LOVE to you!

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P.S. @ SimPattyK - awesome post, love the numbers!

Thank you! And yes, numerology is the BEST proof ever that both Elvis and Michael are ALIVE, for all the obvious reasons! But most important: because it shows how everything was planned to the date and hour and minute!

[Flaviuxa]

Put some more of your work , especially the one with the clothes ... 2005 vs 2010 ... all of them actually !
moonwalk_/    +     elvis_/  =     bearhug

[SimPattyK]

Put some more of your work , especially the one with the clothes ... 2005 vs 2010 ... all of them actually !
moonwalk_/    +     elvis_/  =     bearhug

lol :) Ok I will ...  ;)

[Australian MJ BeLIEver]

@simpattyk

your facebook pics are great! i look forward to seeing more from you.

L.O.V.E