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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
Well isn't nice to finally know that he's DC is invalid...I mean,I thought so,but now,I know so... :D Thanks Diana Jean

I thought so too but now it's confirmed  :D
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 06:45:12 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
OK you know what? I do believe this is a verrrry crucial find. My question as someone stated above said what is the need for the FBI files? Why would this information be made public and online? Are the FBI somehow connected to the investigation.....but if MJ staged his death wouldl there even be an investigation? Because remember Marlone does wear an FBI hat right? More research I feel that there is more to this than we are receiving. But IDK. Sooo much has went on since June 25th.
I think that has too do with the Freedom Of Information Act.
But In my opinion I do think the FBI is involved. The files state a death thret in '92.
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 06:50:16 PM
this makes so much sense! now, Michael Joseph as an entertainer ( as a personality) might be gone (just for a while I hope;)) and Michael Joe lives on directing the biggest hoax of all time:D
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 07:38:30 PM
It DOESN'T make his DC invalid - IF he's dead.
If he was dead, it would still be valid, because everyone knows he's the respective person in the DC.
I asked a couple of lawyers about that.
Asked a row of questions - that was the last:
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(One lawyer was inspired and even started to write poetry - sweet :-D)

If he ISN'T dead, of course the DC is invalid. But it would also be invalid, if it stated Michael JOE Jackson.
No dead person, no valid DC.
I would just like to know, if the legal consequences would be different...

So, does that actually bring us any further?
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 08:03:03 PM
on the DC it should have listed all of his alias on it
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 08:10:07 PM
There's another topic which really will make your head spin.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

This is what's written in the FBI files, but in the children's BC, Michael has registered his name as JOSEPH, and I forgot the Marriage Certificate with LMP - JOSEPH as well

???
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
So...

Michael Joseph Jackson = Entertainer
Michael Joe Jackson = The Person

This makes so much sence to me. Now I understand the difference, thank you so much for clearing this out for us. I really appreciate it. :mrgreen:

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Making the Death Certificate for Michael Joseph Jackson INVALID.

Which means the King of Pop died, but not Michael Jackson.  :mrgreen:

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He looks adorable here with his smile. This picture is authentic and so must his name be. Michael Joe Jackson.

I was going to write the same thing. He looks so cute in that picture awww :)
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juliet

Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 08:17:12 PM
I am just wondering,  Michael has so many aliases (for whatever reasons) used in various documents, I wonder what part of any of the government agencies would hold such vital infos??
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 08:20:39 PM
WOW! Finally that is as good as cleared up, I'm so happy about this :mrgreen:
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 09:00:03 PM
Only half of the file were released, which means there is an on going investigation into his death or whatever lead up to his need to fake his death.
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
It DOESN'T make his DC invalid - IF he's dead.
If he was dead, it would still be valid, because everyone knows he's the respective person in the DC.
I asked a couple of lawyers about that.
Asked a row of questions - that was the last:
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(One lawyer was inspired and even started to write poetry - sweet :-D)

If he ISN'T dead, of course the DC is invalid. But it would also be invalid, if it stated Michael JOE Jackson.
No dead person, no valid DC.
I would just like to know, if the legal consequences would be different...

So, does that actually bring us any further?
But the difference is Legal names have too be on documents such as
Drivers Licenes and Passports.
We know that there are court documents that say both Joe and Joseph
Death certificates have too be full legal names too.
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 22, 2009, 11:58:34 PM
ok ok i need to point something out becuz i just realized something...if michael was trying to fake his death (which i think he is) why would he have sooo many people involved with the hoaxed in my theory, the less peopl who know about the " Great Plan" the less chance it gets leaked. you can't get the FBI involved in a hoax. they will not allow you to fake a death and they wont go along with it because its ILLEGAL we have to go from a different perspective because so far you keep saying lkl, tmz, family, fbi, media, friends, TII dancers, Kenny, blah blah are involved in the hoax...i dont see that happening for it to work??

we need to stop thinking that everyone in the worl are involved in this hoax because that can't be possible to work. in order to do the hoax you have to have as little people knowing as you can

and plus why would michael trust news media to go along with a hoax if they are the ones who put him in this horrible situation in the first place??   HELP MY MIND IS GOING CRAZY :?
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juliet

Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 23, 2009, 12:47:34 AM
FBI documents - JOE
Marriage Contract (LMP) - JOSEPH
Death Certificate -JOSEPH
Children's Birth Certificate - JOSEPH
MJ Will - JOSEPH

?????
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 23, 2009, 01:04:08 AM
Thanks for posting this.  I dont know, but don't you need to present a valid ID for marriage or for birth registration?  I mean if MJ's drivers license had "Joe" in it, how come his marriage contract with LMP and the kids' birth certificates had "Joseph"?  And to get an ID with a photo, don't you need to present a birth certificate or some legal document to prove who you are?  :?
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Re: Joe vs. Joseph SOLVED.
December 23, 2009, 01:32:20 AM
The kids BCs were fakes, I suppose the marraige licence might be as well.

As far as the FBI is concerned, the person MJJ is Michael Joe Jackson and that's the highest authority so weigh in on the name issue so far.
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