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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 03:19:05 PM
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omg...it sounds like this book will only confuse me even more.  What the heck does that mean, that she only exposed small parts of "the body" when the coroner's office was wanting samples????  How could they identify who they were examining if she did that?  If so, for all they knew, it could have been a female...someone else???

[highlight=#ffff40:y3p00duo]She didn't want them to realize it wasn't Michael.[/highlight:y3p00duo]
Bingo! Chapter 37 page 316-My family gave me the great honor of being the informant on Michael's body, which meant that I was designated to look over his body between his death on June 25, 2009, and the day that he was finally laid to rest in a private family service on September 3, 2009.
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What body?

(lol I couldn't resist)


The frail old man!!

(lol I couldn't resist)
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I do remember her saying "read between the lines" when she was interviewed about her book as she skirted around questions about what happened to Michael.

I agree, it's truth AND lies so read between the lines crash/ crash/

@Mish, exactly my thoughts too...Why would LaToya have control while the coroner's are doing their job? I never heard of coroner's examining a body while a family member is present. Sounds very mish mash and unbelievable.
Very good advice to read between the lines. The incident of La Toya covering MJ's body and only exposing certain parts didn't happen at the Coroner's Office, it happened at Forest Lawn while his body was waiting to be laid to rest. This event occured nearly 10 weeks after MJ "died". rr/
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 06:11:57 PM
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omg...it sounds like this book will only confuse me even more.  What the heck does that mean, that she only exposed small parts of "the body" when the coroner's office was wanting samples????  How could they identify who they were examining if she did that?  If so, for all they knew, it could have been a female...someone else???
[highlight=#ffff40:228jjbq2]She didn't want them to realize it wasn't Michael.[/highlight:228jjbq2]
Bingo! Chapter 37 page 316-My family gave me the great honor of being the informant on Michael's body, which meant that I was designated to look over his body between his death on June 25, 2009, and the day that he was finally laid to rest in a private family service on September 3, 2009.

 :lol: She should have told Joe that she was "looking over MJ's body from 06/25 to 09/03, cause Joe told Larry he does not know where body was. So, the "body" was at her home or something?
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 06:34:22 PM
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omg...it sounds like this book will only confuse me even more.  What the heck does that mean, that she only exposed small parts of "the body" when the coroner's office was wanting samples????  How could they identify who they were examining if she did that?  If so, for all they knew, it could have been a female...someone else???
[highlight=#ffff40:2xdt97kf]She didn't want them to realize it wasn't Michael.[/highlight:2xdt97kf]
Bingo! Chapter 37 page 316-My family gave me the great honor of being the informant on Michael's body, which meant that I was designated to look over his body between his death on June 25, 2009, and the day that he was finally laid to rest in a private family service on September 3, 2009.

 :lol: She should have told Joe that she was "looking over MJ's body from 06/25 to 09/03, cause Joe told Larry he does not know where body was. So, the "body" was at her home or something?

Indeed he did.
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
I suggest reading the blog de Souza V for Vendetta - V for Vengeance
I will copy some interesting things:

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What’s Going On In Santa Barbara?


Interesting is the link Sneddon has with David Schwartz, who was Jordie Chandler’s stepfather during the 1993 allegations. Normally that could be a coincidence, but the fact that during his testimony at a pre-trial hearing Sneddon admitted to having met with the Janet Arvizo before the second accusations makes us think this was all planned. But what would Sneddon gain from all this? Did he hate Mike? And why? Justice was not a motive, because both cases were doomed to be lost by him, because he had NOTHING. Fame could be a motive, but who wants to be known for nailing the most famous and loved person in the world? That seems a little strange. So it must be money. Since we don’t believe that Sneddon’s paycheck was that big, he must have been paid by other parties. But by who? Who would gain enough by getting rid of Mike?



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Al Malnik


A little search on Malnik results in the following information about Mafia connections:

A lawyer, real estate developer and proprietor of the supertrendy Miami Beach hot spot The Forge, Malnik is also owner of Title Loans of America, a national chain that lends money legally at annual percentage rates reaching 264% – higher than most loansharks’ vig.

The feds opened their first dossier on Malnik in 1963. It was two years after he graduated, first in his class, from Miami Law School. He had helped set up the Bank of World Commerce in Nassau, the Bahamas, an alleged loot laundry that investigators said involved “some of the nation’s top gangsters.”

Acquitted on tax fraud charges in 1964, Malnik was heard discussing Lansky two years later on bugs placed by cops probing whether casino profits were invested overseas on the mobster’s behalf.

In 1964, he made his first venture into showbiz, organizing a video jukebox company, Scopitone, that was touted as a music-industry revolution.

In 1966, the U.S. attorney in New York secretly indicted Malnik on charges of using the mail to defraud Scopitone investors.In 1971, prosecutors quietly dropped the case.

Meanwhile, after Malnik opened The Forge in 1969, it rose quickly to the top of Miami’s night scene, attracting celebrities such as Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland, Richard Burton and even Richard Nixon, who came with his shady financier pal, Bebe Rebozo.

Alvin Malnik, the man once regarded as the heir apparent to mobster Meyer Lansky, … described by federal authorities as a top associate of organized crime figures … Among his friends, Malnik counts Saudi royalty.

The sole owner of a Georgia company, Title Loans of America, Malnik runs a national chain of loan stores that make millions of dollars from the interest charged on quick cash offered to people in desperate need of money. … Attorney General Bob Butterworth [Florida] likens the business to ‘legalized loan sharking.’ … ‘It was a known fact among the criminal underworld that dealing with Al Malnik was the same as dealing with Meyer Lansky,’ [said] Vincent Teresa, ‘a convicted criminal and frequent government witness currently in the federal Witness Protection Program,’ …

When Lansky died in 1983 at age 81, Reader’s Digest named Malnik his ‘heir apparent.’ … ‘He is not welcome here,’ James Hurley, the chairman of the New Jersey Casino Control Commission … ‘He’s done nothing to overcome his reputation of being closely identified with Meyer Lansky and other organized crime figures.’ … In 1962, Malnik was listed as a director of the Bank of World Commerce, a Bahamas-based institution that involved ‘some of the nations’ top gangsters,’ … In 1978, a Bahamian company named Appolonia Investment Limited paid $3.35 million to buy the property just north of Malnik’s Ranch. … Malnik refuse to divulge Appolonia’s owners.

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Meyer Lansky


(born Meyer Suchowljanski) (July 4, 1902 – January 15, 1983; known as the “Mob’s Accountant”) was a Jewish-American organized crime figure who, along with his associate Charles “Lucky” Luciano, was instrumental in the development of the “National Crime Syndicate” in the United States.

Lansky developed a gambling empire which stretched from Saratoga, New York to Miami to Council Bluffs Iowa and Las Vegas; it is also said that he oversaw gambling concessions in Cuba. Although a member of the Jewish Mafia, Lansky undoubtedly had strong influence with the Italian Mafia and played a large role in the consolidation of the criminal underworld (although the full extent of this role has been the subject of some debate).

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According to Gordon Novel he was originally contacted by Jermaine and said that Mike and the family wanted Novel to gather proof of the Malnik/Mottola conspiracy and further find evidence that Mottola was behind the criminal child molestation charges.

Novel said he flew in March 2005, about a month into Mike’s trial, from his home in New Orleans to the Los Angeles home owned by Mike’s parents, where he stayed several days before Jackson finally had him over to Neverland Valley. He said the two of them met in a bungalow on the property before Mike drove him around the ranch in an old pickup truck.

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“The whole thing centered on Tommy Mottola setting him up,” Novel told me. “Mottola and him were at odds, and Jackson’s information was that Mottola and Malnik got together to fuck him. He said he believed Malnik was representing the Mob.”



He said Jackson had special loathing for Malnik because he felt betrayed by him. When I told him that Malnik was saying that Jackson had made him executor of his estate, he was dubious.



“He had split up with Malnik,” said Novel. “He never said anything about Malnik being executor of his will. And based on how pissed off Jackson was at him at the time, I wouldn’t believe it on a bet.”



When asked what Jackson was like at the meeting, Novel didn’t hesitate: “He was afraid, very very afraid. He didn’t want to go to jail and didn’t think he would be treated very well there.”



Was he fearful that he would be killed in prison?



“Yeah, you can say that,” Novel said.



But he also said that Jackson’s mental state was “excellent” and that the pop star was lucid and extremely intelligent. He didn’t believe Jackson was on any drugs during the meeting.



I asked Novel if he believed Jackson’s theory about the conspiracy against him. He said that he thought Jackson was not guilty of the criminal charges and that he was probably set up, but he had no idea if Mottola was involved.



“He thought that Mottola was Mob-connected and that Malnik was representing the Mob, but I can’t vouch for any of that shit,” Novel said. “I don’t have anything against Tommy Mottola and don’t know if what he thought was true or not. I don’t want to get on Mottola’s bad side. My sources in New York say he’s a dangerous guy.”


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Tommy Mottola


A search also results in articles which mention Tommy Mottola’s alleged mob ties.

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“Do you know this guy has a Mafia background?” a senior Sony executive quotes the CBS man as saying. “What are you doing tainting this wonderful company you just bought from us with a guy who has a background that would make the F.B.I. cringe?”


Rattled, Sony contacted F.B.I. director William Sessions, requesting a quiet background check. The response was a qualified O.K. “The F.B.I. said, ‘No, this guy is not somebody who will start dealing with people we should worry about, but he has friends who do,’” says a former senior executive at Sony. “We said, ‘As long as he’s clean, we won’t worry.’ And that was the basis on which we didn’t.”


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Opportunistic from the get-go, Mottola converted to Judaism as a young man in order to marry the daughter of tough ABC Records creator Sam Clark, yet has spent the rest of his life playing the mobster angle to whatever advantage he can. He named his first management company “Don Tommy”; as head of Warner Music, Michael Fuchs recalled to New York magazine that Mottola spoke of Morris Levy as a personal hero, and in fact Mottola was an investment partner of Levy’s up until Levy’s conviction. In the racketeering trial of Gambino family capo Greg De Palma, a former undercover FBI agent stated under oath that De Palma bragged of wining and dining with Mottola and his then-wife Mariah Carey.



Vanity Fair reported that Colombo family boss-turned-FBI-informant Michael Franzese told journalist Frederic Dannen (author of best-selling industry exposé Hit Men), “Tommy, we knew he was a friend of ours.” Mottola makes light of these connections, dismissing it all (in certain company, at least) as sensationalism and hearsay, yet as long as these associations continue to work for him more often than against him, he seems content to perpetuate them.

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Brett Ratner


A little search on Ratner lead us to this information, showing a close, personal connection to Malnik:

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“Had he been realistic and realized what the odds were that he would succeed to the extent that he has, he probably wouldn’t have tried at all,” says Shareef Malnik, owner of the landmark Miami Beach restaurant The Forge.


Shareef’s father Al Malnik was a friend of Ratner’s paternal grandfather, developer Lee Ratner. Brett was raised by his mother and maternal grandparents, who are Cuban and Jewish. They all lived in a house a block away from The Forge. The elder Malnik mentored Ratner while he was a going to Hebrew Academy and then Beach High.


“He grew up as my little brother,” Shareef says. He calls my dad Dad.



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Flash frames show Malnik with a slew of the big names across the years-from world-famous attorney and mentor Jake Ehrlich to Rat Pack stars Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Jr., to his first son, Shareef, and his “11th son,” famed director Brett Ratner, to a bevy of beautiful women and a host of others-until, suddenly, the camera pauses, and Malnik finds the love of his life-Nancy.

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The Firestone Family


Sneddon was allegedly overheard in 1994 discussing a plan to get Mike out of Santa Barbara and turn Neverland into a winery. Winemaking is the leading agricultural industry in Santa Barbara, and while searching for the wineries in Santa Barbara, we bumped into the Firestone Family.

Like mentioned above, Thambiah Sundaram attended a private fundraising dinner in 1994 where Tom Sneddon and other government officials allegedly discussed their plans to get rid of certain individuals in Santa Barbara who owned substantial amounts of land. Michael Jackson’s property was allegedly brought up during this meeting; Sundaram claimed that authorities wanted to acquire Neverland for vineyards.

Slick Gardner is a horse rancher who owns 2,000 acres of land in Santa Barbara. In 2003, Gardner was investigated for animal abuse after his neighbours reported that some of his horses looked unhealthy. Around the same time the allegations hit, Gardner ran for 3rd District Supervisor against John Buttny, Steve Pappas and Brooks Firestone. Firestone – who owns a successful winery in Santa Barbara and who also has political ties to Tom Sneddon and former Sheriff Jim Thomas – won the election by a landslide. As a result of the bad publicity from the animal abuse allegations, Gardner got the least amount of votes.

While investigating Gardner for animal abuse, Santa Barbara authorities also stumbled upon evidence of grand theft. Gardner was charged with 12 felony counts and hired defense attorney Steve Balash to represent him in the case. Balash later backed out of the case saying it was too complicated.

According to Gardner, Sneddon has had a grudge against him for 30 years and is only prosecuting him out of spite. “It just seems like it’s almost a vendetta deal. These guys are going so far out of their way to do things to me that normally wouldn’t be done,” Gardner said.

“The same thing that’s happening to Michael Jackson happened to me. One day Sneddon is going to wake up with a boot up his ass with a white glove in it, and it will be about time.”

Let’s have a closer look at the Firestones.

Harvey Firestone’s son Leonard was an attendee at Bohemian Grove. A staunch Republican, Leonard Firestone was delegate to Republican National Convention from California in 1944 (alternate), 1948 and 1952. In 1954 he was elected to the city council of Beverly Hills.

Leonard Firestone was chairman of the Nelson Rockefeller campaign in the California Presidential primary in 1964. Firestone was appointed U.S. ambassador to Belgium by President Richard Nixon in 1974, and was reappointed by President Gerald Ford, serving until 1976. He was later chairman of the Richard M. Nixon Foundation.

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The Nixon/Illuminati connection

President Gerald Ford’s connections to MK Ultra are described in Cathy O’Brian’s book “Trance Formation of America”.

Excerpts


The Vice-President under Ford was Nelson Rockefeller.

Leonard Firestone’s first marriage produced three children, of which one is a son named Brooks Firestone. Brooks Firestone represented the 35th District in the California State Assembly for two terms (1994-1998), and is the former Santa Barbara County, California Third District Supervisor (2004-2008).

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In the early 1970s, Harvey’s son Leonard, a former United States Ambassador to Belgium, established a family ranch in Santa Barbara County’s rugged Santa Ynez Valley. At the time, Santa Barbara County barely registered on California’s winegrowing radar, but Leonard saw immense potential in the region’s coastal climate and amenable soils. He decided to plant a vineyard, with the initial intent of selling the grapes to North Coast wineries.

Soon thereafter, Leonard was joined by his son Brooks and Brooks’ wife Kate, and together they decided to take their winegrowing adventure to the next level by establishing Santa Barbara County’s first estate winery.

In 1987, Los Angeles Times Magazine noted: “Brooks Firestone’s importance to the California wine industry is first of all historical: He was a pioneer, an inspirer, and expander of possibilities; he took a chance on an untried wine area, then stuck with it and made it pay…”

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We are not saying anything with this, but the connections of the Firestones are interesting to say the least.

SONY


Sony turns out to be more interesting then we thought as well. The origin of the name SONY is not very clear, but many people seen to think it is an acronym of Standard Oil of New York. This is what Leroy Fletcher Prouty had to say about it.

It just happens that I was ordered to Tokyo during the early days of the Korean War period, and was assigned the job of “Military Manager of Tokyo International Airport” during the period of the U.S. military occupation of Japan. At that time it was the third busiest airport in the world, not only because of the Korean War activity; but because of just such business activity as Burnham describes on the part of Mr. Morita. Many other Japanese entrepreneurs were doing their best to revive from the losses and damage of WWII; but even more important was an another enormous business phenomenon.

I began to notice that day after day the few Japanese transport aircraft available, and countless large commercial aircraft from USA Charter Companies began to jam the parking ramp on Tokyo Airport. They were loaded with items from the States.

US money and manufactured material was flooding the place. Have you ever really thought why Mr. Morita, a fine Japanese businessman, would name his company SONY? That is not a Japanese word, nor is it a Japanese acronym.

The name SONY began to appear at the airport after the flood of post-war recovery money, and one of the meanings of those four letters is “STANDARD OIL OF NEW YORK”. That has always been SONY or SOCONY. (The Standard Oil Company of New York)

THE ROCKEFELLERS had arrived to re-finance Japan.

What this meant was that during those “MacArthur” days Rockefeller money was flooding Japan; and money such as that (Yes, I’m using the term MONEY) kind of “money” began the amazing job of rebuilding Japan.

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Leroy Fletcher Prouty (January 24, 1917 – June 5, 2001) was an American colonel in the United States Air Force, author, banker, and critic of U.S. foreign policy, especially as regarded the activities of the CIA.

As a critic of the CIA, Prouty pointed out its influence in global matters, outside the realm of U.S. congressional and government oversight. His works detail the formation and development of the CIA, the origins of the Cold War, the U-2 incident, the Vietnam War, and the John F. Kennedy assassination. Prouty’s book JFK claims that these events are proof of a secret “global elite” at work.

He has subscribed to the theory that oil is not derived from fossils but from carbon deposits deep within the Earth (abiogenic petroleum origin theory).

The Col. L Fletcher Prouty Reference Site


So if this is true, SONY also has links to the Rockefellers (Illuminati), just like the Firestones. Click here for information about Standard Oil.

Besides that, Mike owned half of SONY ATV, that owns the rights to songs by Elvis Presley, Eminem, Akon, Bob Dylan, and Willie Nelson. The value of Sony/ATV Music Publishing has varied in reports. Industry experts have estimated the company to be worth as much as $1.5 billion.

So that means big bucks. Others say that the worth of SONY/ATV is even higher than that. Sony had been pushing to buy Mike’s entire share in their music catalog venture for years. Sony had something to gain from Mike’s career failing because if Mike’s career or financial situation were to deteriorate, he would have to sell his catalog.

Here is another interesting read about Sony, mentioning Mottola, Malnik, Rattner, and others.

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and this I found on another forum:

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What the Quaids are going thru sounds like it could be similar to what Michael went thru, the raid on Neverland, & how he was set up, falsly accused of molestation and remember, Neverland Valley Ranch is a developed property in Santa Barbara County, California
What the Quaids are going thru sounds like it could be similar to what Michael went thru, the raid on Neverland, & how he was set up, falsly accused of molestation and remember, Neverland Valley Ranch is a developed property in Santa Barbara County, California


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As you can see in my next vid, it is impossible to replace the people in the justice system and these are the people sure Tom Sneddon was never accused of falsifying evidence in the case of child abuse. These people are more or less there's lifetime. Six judges who opposed not because the band of criminals known as the Bar Association said that anyone can run for judge if havent been member of the bar for ten years. This is now the law in California. These six judges are not even to be re-elected... this happens automatically (more on that in part 4 of my vids)
About Pedro López, I wrote in "Stop testing" to dry:
"Interesting it is also, of course, that the Office of the coroner and the judge of winter Assistant Chief Ed again is in charge of the handling of the evidence that I mentioned in my post about Pedro López and the death of Brittany Murphy, where Ed Winter, also is in charge and where Pedro Lopez death is suicide failed", even before the paramedics have left the House "."
The death of Pedro López is clearly related to Michael deception. And with Pedro López had neglected police work at the crime scene and forensic work also neglected. For one reason or another. I'm not saying that Pedro López deluded, but....
Michael is struggling not only himself, and this has to stop.

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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 07:59:57 PM
Guys is there anyway to connect Mr. Sneddon with Mr. Murdoch.  I would love to see if there is a slight connection there.
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 08:07:42 PM
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Guys is there anyway to connect Mr. Sneddon with Mr. Murdoch.  I would love to see if there is a slight connection there.

Thanks for bringing that up.....over on the thread about phone hacking I posted about Murdoch being a member of the Catholic knighthood of St. Gregory.  I asked folks about Murdoch being a prime suspect in the the accusations against Michael....in order to take away the light shining on the sex-scandels surrounding the Catholic church.  Everything I have read about Sneddon is that he is a devout Catholic.  So maybe that's the link?   I will look around this more....thanks again Lemonbread904!

Blessings Always!
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 09:08:24 PM
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omg...it sounds like this book will only confuse me even more.  What the heck does that mean, that she only exposed small parts of "the body" when the coroner's office was wanting samples????  How could they identify who they were examining if she did that?  If so, for all they knew, it could have been a female...someone else???
[highlight=#ffff40:2vo56b6v]She didn't want them to realize it wasn't Michael.[/highlight:2vo56b6v]
Bingo! Chapter 37 page 316-My family gave me the great honor of being the informant on Michael's body, which meant that I was designated to look over his body between his death on June 25, 2009, and the day that he was finally laid to rest in a private family service on September 3, 2009.

 :lol: She should have told Joe that she was "looking over MJ's body from 06/25 to 09/03, cause Joe told Larry he does not know where body was. So, the "body" was at her home or something?
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it happened at Forest Lawn while his body was waiting to be laid to rest.
That is what I wrote also in the post you quoted. I suppose this would be easier if everyone could read La Toya's book so when I say something from it we would all be on the same page and it will make more sense. fresse/
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
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omg...it sounds like this book will only confuse me even more.  What the heck does that mean, that she only exposed small parts of "the body" when the coroner's office was wanting samples????  How could they identify who they were examining if she did that?  If so, for all they knew, it could have been a female...someone else???
[highlight=#ffff40:34ereqwm]She didn't want them to realize it wasn't Michael.[/highlight:34ereqwm]
Bingo! Chapter 37 page 316-My family gave me the great honor of being the informant on Michael's body, which meant that I was designated to look over his body between his death on June 25, 2009, and the day that he was finally laid to rest in a private family service on September 3, 2009.

 :lol: She should have told Joe that she was "looking over MJ's body from 06/25 to 09/03, cause Joe told Larry he does not know where body was. So, the "body" was at her home or something?

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it happened at Forest Lawn while his body was waiting to be laid to rest.

That is what I wrote also in the post you quoted. I suppose this would be easier if everyone could read La Toya's book so when I say something from it we would all be on the same page and it will make more sense. fresse/

What happened at FL.....body overlooking by La Toya.?....for 2 months?
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 18, 2011, 10:41:40 PM
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omg...it sounds like this book will only confuse me even more.  What the heck does that mean, that she only exposed small parts of "the body" when the coroner's office was wanting samples????  How could they identify who they were examining if she did that?  If so, for all they knew, it could have been a female...someone else???
[highlight=#ffff40:cigpam2x]She didn't want them to realize it wasn't Michael.[/highlight:cigpam2x]
Bingo! Chapter 37 page 316-My family gave me the great honor of being the informant on Michael's body, which meant that I was designated to look over his body between his death on June 25, 2009, and the day that he was finally laid to rest in a private family service on September 3, 2009.

 :lol: She should have told Joe that she was "looking over MJ's body from 06/25 to 09/03, cause Joe told Larry he does not know where body was. So, the "body" was at her home or something?

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it happened at Forest Lawn while his body was waiting to be laid to rest.

That is what I wrote also in the post you quoted. I suppose this would be easier if everyone could read La Toya's book so when I say something from it we would all be on the same page and it will make more sense. fresse/

What happened at FL.....body overlooking by La Toya.?....for 2 months?

Maybe La Toya's talk of Forest Lawn and Scott Drolet (guy responsible for Michael's "body" at FL) was her shout out to them for helping with the hoax.  Someone from FL had to be "in on it" since Michael is not and was not there.  Maybe this Scott person is their guy on the inside - and maybe La Toya did go there for 2 months to meet with him to keep up appearances, in case any other FL staff members suspected anything.
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 19, 2011, 01:15:28 AM
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That is what I wrote also in the post you quoted. I suppose this would be easier if everyone could read La Toya's book so when I say something from it we would all be on the same page and it will make more sense. fresse/

What happened at FL.....body overlooking by La Toya.?....for 2 months?

Maybe La Toya's talk of Forest Lawn and Scott Drolet (guy responsible for Michael's "body" at FL) was her shout out to them for helping with the hoax.  Someone from FL had to be "in on it" since Michael is not and was not there.  Maybe this Scott person is their guy on the inside - and maybe La Toya did go there for 2 months to meet with him to keep up appearances, in case any other FL staff members suspected anything.[/quote]

Why should someone from FL need to be in the hoax? Jacksons could bury empty casket, that is nailed and no one in FL would open and check if someone in there or question that matter at all.
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 19, 2011, 05:12:20 AM
Talking again about LaToya,

She said that MJ was known in the family for faking illness to get out of situations. She also was familiar with fake deaths since Gordon did fake his own in the past. Michael told La LaToya about his fears and LaToya would help him to connect the pieces together regarding the conspiracy.



“Michael’s just doing this (25-6-2009) to get out of his shows,’ Jeffre said. [P] This immediately eased my mind because I knew that it could well be true. I had been told that Michael didn’t want to do the London shows, which were scheduled to begin in just a few days. Michael was known, within the family, to have faked illness and injury in the past to avoid commitments that displeased him … I kept praying and talking to myself out loud. [P] ‘Okay, La Toya, calm down. Michael is going to be fine. It’s just an act.’ But somehow, I knew this wasn’t true …” (283-285).

If you pay attention to the quote "But somehow, I knew this wasn’t true", it would mean that MJ was not pretending or talking about conspiracy just to get out of the 50 shows, this was a real alarm, he feared for his life, he was not talking about conspiracy just to get out of shows. After LaToya was investigating helping Michael to connect the dots a plot against Michael could have been found for real.

Looks to me that people did not listen to Michael or believed what he had to say. I just hope and wish that the intervention was not too late.
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Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

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Re: TIAI July 7
July 19, 2011, 09:24:56 AM
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Guys is there anyway to connect Mr. Sneddon with Mr. Murdoch. I would love to see if there is a slight connection there.

Thanks for bringing that up.....over on the thread about phone hacking I posted about Murdoch being a member of the Catholic knighthood of St. Gregory. I asked folks about Murdoch being a prime suspect in the the accusations against Michael....in order to take away the light shining on the sex-scandels surrounding the Catholic church. Everything I have read about Sneddon is that [highlight=#ff0000:2mtplv6o]he is a devout Catholic[/highlight:2mtplv6o]. So maybe that's the link? I will look around this more....thanks again Lemonbread904!

Blessings Always!

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It would be very good if we could find out something of the life of this " catholic devout " suspicious//
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 19, 2011, 10:47:31 AM
Hi!!
Jetzi just emailed me and said she's put LaToya's book back up..and is still loading the rest of it :)  So we can get back to reading again.
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 19, 2011, 11:12:59 AM
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Hi!!
Jetzi just emailed me and said she's put LaToya's book back up..and is still loading the rest of it  So we can get back to reading again


thanks bounce/
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Re: TIAI July 7
July 19, 2011, 02:00:17 PM
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Well I just finished La Toya's book today and let me just say there is alot of good info in there that will make a whole lot of sense once it is read. Especially the part in chapter 37 when La Toya describes how she kept "the body" hidden with a sheet and only exposed small portions of areas when the Los Angelos Coroner's Office wanted hair samples, palm prints, and pictures of the hands they were printing.

About MJ and the JW delema...Chapter 35 page 304- A few hours before the service at the Staples Center on July 7, 2009, the family had a private viewing. Although Michael was not a Jehovah's Witness at the end of his life, in deference to Mother and Michael's deep, lifelong faith, the family memorial was a Jehovah's Witness service, including the songs that were sung and the prayers that were said.

We all choose to believe what we want at the end of the day. I choose to believe that La Toya is being truthful about that part. I also believe she is truthful when she is describing her ordeal she went through with Gordon. I also choose to believe she is involved in this hoax as a very important person. I believe she is helping MJ with his hoax/sting operation. It makes a whole lot of sense once you read her book.

Let's say this isn't a hoax; how on Earth would LaToya have so much control in the coroners office? My second questions (again if this isn't a hoax) why would the coroners office allow her to have so much control. I have never heard of such a thing. I haven't read her book but from what I can tell off of what others have said, she's flip flopping between the truth and false information to throw out clues, or maybe I'm stretching things too far!?

I believe TS already addressed this in an earlier post or update; the Coroner WAS in on it.
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