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[suspicious mind]

Hey guys....

I thought I'd post some thoughts here....there are some brilliant minds here.  I need some help with this train of thought....hoping someone might jump on board, lol.

I have been thinking this Rupert Murdoch thing is bigger than all heck.  It reaches into many different, dark corners of so-called journalism/media.  You can google what he owns...it's astounding.  Here a link to one site that lists many:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 89x6021496

In the world of media...he can dominate.  I have found that he is member of the Order of St. Gregory. a Catholic knighthood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_S ... _the_Great

and might lose it:

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/comment ... rescinded/

It was in January 1998:

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/acc ... +Catholics

Murdoch claims not to be very religious, however, his wife is catholic:

http://www.nndb.com/people/420/000023351/

His current wife is interesting...he married her 17 days after his divorce from Anna......on June 25,1999.
Interesting:

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/journalism/ ... /Deng.html

Now, that all set the stage for my thought train:

1) I can't help but think there is a link to Tommy Mottola (Universal Music Group/Casablanca Records??)
2) Is the link to Mottola a bad one...or was Mottola onto something about Murdoch?
3) The knighthood thing is extremely interesting to me.  There is talk of him being Jewish, being Catholic, not being anything.  The Order of St. Gregory is interesting to read about:

http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/gregory.htm

http://www.knightsofchristsmercy.com/st_gregory.html

4) Is there a link to some of the medals/ribbons that Michael wore during the trial...they are similar to the Order's medals...you can see it in above links.

5) Murdoch's News of the World is the one that published the deathbed picture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pECpNZ3bNk

6) Since when does a state thank a religion?

http://www.knightsofchristsmercy.com/pd ... _Award.pdf

7) Here is my million dollar thought.....
Is there a link between Michael's accusations and Murdoch?  In order to shed light away from the Catholic church's own scandals at the time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases) did Murdoch knowingly set up Michael in the media and public's eyes?  Was it for knighthood?  A promise to the church?  He certainly had the means to set him up....the church, the state, the media empire at his call.  Was he the crux of it all?  Did Murdoch enable the media to run with wild accusations about Michael?

Anyways....that's a start.
I have tried to summarize things here.....sorry for the long, rambling post.
I'd appreciate any feedback, thoughts...TS, that includes you!  We all have different thoughts and opinions...it's only together that we are strong enough to face the adversity of belief.  Being a beLIEver means more than just believing in a death hoax.  It means you are in it for the long haul....believing in Michael and his family.

I wish you all nothing but the best blessings always!
LOVE

[highlight=#ff0000:35s2gge5]note to check out further when i have more time[/highlight:35s2gge5]

[wishingstar]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_b ... ossip.html

http://www.elviscommunity.com/service/d ... 8&d=677883

http://express-press-release.net/9/Elvi ... urdoch.php

Those are just a few links to Elvis related sites/articles....there is too much to post.

Some other random Murdoch things:

http://www.amazon.com/Rupert-Murdoch-TI ... B0002NPRKS

I think these are really interesting articles about Murdoch...they might belong on some other thread as well:

http://www.pophistorydig.com/?p=7131

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/11673/

OK...that's just a few links to things....back to the Elvis connection.  Murdoch helped publish a scandalous book about Elvis..."Elvis What Happened?".....a few days later Elvis is found dead.  Murdoch is thinking he hit gold, right?  His papers go crazy with stories.  Can't you see Michael being furious because of the pain it caused Lisa?  I can totally see him back in 1977 planning on taking Murdoch down.  It took until now to do so.....bit by bit, Murdoch is crumbling.  Murdoch got wind of Michael's intentions towards him....and hit him with the first round of allegations.  When they didn't stick, Murdoch hit him again with the 2005 trial allegations.  It would explain the looks on Michael's face at times.  To me, when I watch the videos of the courthouse arrivals etc. Michael seems to have something like this on his mind.  He knew he was being set up....and by who. It's an enormous real-life chess game between them.  I have a feeling Michael's hoax is a checkmate to Murdoch.  One of the articles mentions how Murdoch changed the cover of the Post with a red stripe in the earlier days of taking it over.  It wouldn't surprise me if Michael's armbands were really an inside reminder to Murdoch that he's coming for him.  I know the reason Michael has stated he wore the armbands and all.  However, perhaps the red ones were reserved just for Murdoch.
Lisa was almost right when she told us Michael worried about, "ending up like her father".  However, I firmly believe Michael has out-thought the media giants of the world.  I hope it comes with a comeback for Michael. However, if he's happy and content with life...that's good enough for me.  If Michael were here, I'd tell him to look at the stars in the night sky and dance under the moon, I'll Be There.

Blessings to you Michael.....
LOVE Always

[Lemonbread904]

Wishing Star, was it not stated somewhere that Michael met Elvis and had a conversation with him. Who knows what they discussed.

[wishingstar]

Hey Lemonbread904.....

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12092

Have a beautiful day!

[use_your_illusion]

Does anyone think Elvis might not be alive any more...like maybe he died recently?

I also wonder if MJ met with Elvis after he "died".

[Its her]

Does anyone think Elvis might not be alive any more...like maybe he died recently?

I also wonder if MJ met with Elvis after he "died".

Wouldn't that be too convenient? <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ -->

[use_your_illusion]

Does anyone think Elvis might not be alive any more...like maybe he died recently?

I also wonder if MJ met with Elvis after he "died".

Wouldn't that be too convenient? <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ -->

It reminds me of Chandler..could he still be alive.

[wishingstar]

Does anyone think Elvis might not be alive any more...like maybe he died recently?

I also wonder if MJ met with Elvis after he "died".

Wouldn't that be too convenient? <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ -->

It reminds me of Chandler..could he still be alive.

I thought of that so many times.....about Elvis (Chandler too.....)...but Elvis is what really makes me think.
I keep going over all that we saw...the ambulance, the helicopter, the memorial, funeral......things just do not add up to be Michael.  But, what a tribute to the King of rock 'n roll....I think it's too far fetched for me.  But, interesting to think about.  Is that straight jacket laying about anywhere  <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->  <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ -->

Blessings

[Its her]

Does anyone think Elvis might not be alive any more...like maybe he died recently?

I also wonder if MJ met with Elvis after he "died".

Wouldn't that be too convenient? <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ -->

It reminds me of Chandler..could he still be alive.

You may be onto something, there. #1, MJ would have HAD to have gotten permission from the King, for his only daughter's hand in marriage(even though it wasn't really his to give, there was a risk, hooking up with someone certain ignorant people think is a pedophile and other scary people want to kill...I imagine they had that  <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> "father/son in law talk" , even if only by telephone. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->  <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->  <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->  <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ).

#2, I think it kind of suspicious, that a sworn, vicious enemy such as Evan Chandler, would decide to fall on his own sword on the MOST serious hoax date he could have POSSIBLY picked, the V for Vendetta Day, November 5th. I mean did you all READ what he said about Michael Jackson??? Did you read what he planned to DO to him????? So...he gets his wish, sort of---even though MJ isn't ruined per se, he seems to be all broken and anesthetizing himself, nightly, the rest of his life AS IF he is-------
Why ISN'T Chandler fiendishly delighted, partying gleefully?????????????????

Because. He is not a REAL bad guy and not really dead. That stuff he wrote about ruining MJ was SO creepy and evil---it HAD to be some kind of novel he was writing. A GRAPHIC novel, where the enemies are [shadow=blue:28h2evxx]out of this world, over the top, EVIL[/shadow:28h2evxx]. <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->  And, what's with this secretly taping people???? Isn't that a creepy recurring theme with regard to MJ???????????  <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr -->  <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr -->  <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr --> (Glenda tapes <!-- salbino/ -->albino/<!-- salbino/ --> , Shmuley tapes <!-- salbino/ -->albino/<!-- salbino/ -->)

I tried to say I smelled a rat about this, before, but the thread got locked. more and more I regard this story as truth, less and less. (As in the movie, The sixth Sense":) I see (Faked) dead people...MORE than 2. <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->  <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->  <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->  <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->  <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ -->

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Just saying. Is anything we heard the last two years, TRUE? <!-- sfresse/ -->fresse/<!-- sfresse/ -->

[bec]

Yes I have a very hard time wrapping my brain around Chandler suicide on 11/5... a very hard time. This is one of the few events of the last 2 years that I have been completely unable to explain away in any manner, shape, or form. There is no logical answer, there is no rational explanation, it is completely and utterly mysterious to me...

[MissG]

Chandler killing himself makes sense if he felt guilty for his actions. Jermaine Jackson said something similar.

[bec]

Chandler killing himself makes sense if he felt guilty for his actions. Jermaine Jackson said something similar.

Yes... but on 11/5? What's the chances...

[MissG]

Chandler killing himself makes sense if he felt guilty for his actions. Jermaine Jackson said something similar.

Yes... but on 11/5? What's the chances...

i don´t get you...what do you want to say?

[bec]

Chandler killing himself makes sense if he felt guilty for his actions. Jermaine Jackson said something similar.

Yes... but on 11/5? What's the chances...

i don´t get you...what do you want to say?

What are the chances that Chandler, the one guy who you could finger point as being responsible for the chain reaction of events that caused Michael such misery for over a decade and led ultimately to the trial of his life where he was falsely accused of horrific crimes against children... have killed himself on V for Vendetta day?

That's insane. Just totally insane. 11/5 should mean little to anyone who isn't in MJ's corner. It's Vendetta day, not Guilty Conscience day. It's a massive mind fuck.

[MissG]

So, someone shot the guy? is that what you are saying?
Makes sense as well, but, who did it?