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[allforlove]

Maybe this has been discussed before but in these video's for me it's sure looks like the O2 conference was staged.

[youtube:1q6c8jz3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSyEhYTQRA[/youtube:1q6c8jz3]

[youtube:1q6c8jz3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AP_tLfk_Y[/youtube:1q6c8jz3]

[youtube:1q6c8jz3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGb9jPRg08o[/youtube:1q6c8jz3]

[peacock7]

I thought the same thing allforlove - since the old board.  Danke/Thanks.

[mj777gil]

I am not sure this scene is staged.
I think Thome's figure is hidden behind Michael.  I would say that I can see Thome's arm, not Michael's.
I think it is only a coincidence (visual effect).

Only my thoughts.

Love.

[allforlove]

Where did you see his arm? Can you point this out. And what about the different attendances? One where he arrived walking and one where he did get in the bus car whatever you call it.

[all4loveandbelieve]

I always said it the dude was not MJ.. I think this was staged, and probably that's when Michael did his hoax. Like Jermaine said he was gone long way before he arrived at the airport. June 25/2009 Michael was not in his home, it was not MJ in the ambulance, Michael has left us before June that is for sure. Everything was staged to the perfection. This man is a genius

[mj777gil]

Where did you see his arm? Can you point this out. And what about the different attendances? One where he arrived walking and one where he did get in the bus car whatever you call it.

[attachment=0:2s8aqto8]Michael.JPG[/attachment:2s8aqto8]

I hope it clarifies what I mean (it is difficult to explain).
;)

LOVE.

[ForstAMoon]

Where did you see his arm? Can you point this out. And what about the different attendances? One where he arrived walking and one where he did get in the bus car whatever you call it.

I hope it clarifies what I mean (it is difficult to explain).
;)

LOVE.

I also think it is Tohme's arm, he seems to be holding something in his hand when he leaves the bus, and in the video it seems like this hand is still holding this something, while MJ hands are free. Tohme is shorter than MJ, this is maybe why he seems to disappear behind MJ posture.

It does not change my view though, that I do believe the O2 was either staged/pre-recorded/illusion/not MJ....

[allforlove]

Where did you see his arm? Can you point this out. And what about the different attendances? One where he arrived walking and one where he did get in the bus car whatever you call it.

[attachment=0:25lp5v08]Michael.JPG[/attachment:25lp5v08]

I hope it clarifies what I mean (it is difficult to explain).
;)

LOVE.

Okay, I see what you mean. But there's the question about the different arrivings. This still makes me think the whole thing was staged.I can't find a vid where he arrived in the car wagon but I have seen footage of it.Maybe someone here can look for it?

[mj777gil]

Where did you see his arm? Can you point this out. And what about the different attendances? One where he arrived walking and one where he did get in the bus car whatever you call it.

[attachment=0:hm00m8do]Michael.JPG[/attachment:hm00m8do]

I hope it clarifies what I mean (it is difficult to explain).
;)

LOVE.

Okay, I see what you mean. But there's the question about the different arrivings. This still makes me think the whole thing was staged.I can't find a vid where he arrived in the car wagon but I have seen footage of it.Maybe someone here can look for it?

Sorry.  I also agree with the opinion that the O2 Press Conference was staged.   bounce/
I only was questioning the issue discussed in the video.  :)

[Kim]

Tohme is walking fast and walks next to Michael or.....he does some magic trick and suddenly disappears  :lol: No, It really seems like that it was shot in 2 times.

[2good2btrue]

In the trailer for TII, it makes you think that MJ was walking into the staples centre for the rehearsals...thats the impression you get, but it was taken from the 02 announcement...getting off the bus.  I always thought that was strange..

Am I making any sense.??   He is wearing the same clothes that day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUniG6F_RzY
[youtube:2lqvdil8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUniG6F_RzY[/youtube:2lqvdil8]

[~Souza~]

Illusion within an illusion. Tohme is there, just behind Mike. His arm and hand are visible. Mike doesn't hold anything in his hand, Tohme does. So that arm has to be Tohme's.

[2good2btrue]

Why was Tohme Tohme there anyhow ??  Michael looks "controlled" by him...and MJ looks so pissed off...

[allforlove]

Illusion within an illusion. Tohme is there, just behind Mike. His arm and hand are visible. Mike doesn't hold anything in his hand, Tohme does. So that arm has to be Tohme's.

I already got that. Though I'm convinced it wasn't Michael's intention I'm sure he would love the idea of this illusion. mj_bad/

[Datroot]

I know it wasn't staged because I work with people who went.