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[2good2btrue]

OK..I have another view of his hands from the 02 announcement.  By the way, I am 46 and am anaemic too.  My hands and legs bruise easily, and my skin is starting to wrinkle in certain positions....especially when I'm dehydrated.  But then again, I am an interior painter, and don't wear gloves. My bad.

Bruising and LUPUS>>>.It is called "platelet function abnormality". Basically, the platelets are there, BUT they don't work right.

"The "new bruises" you are describing sound much like what I get. The capillaries will spontaneously, with no impact or cause, break and bleed in the surrounding tissue. Sometimes when these happen, I can feel a sort of stinging sensation. At times, I can go for long stretches without any problems, but then they stop working and pop up with new "bruises".

Lupus is a condition that affects the skin as well...My mother had it, and died from it.  What killed her was when her lungs had filled up with fluid, and she had died in the ambulance....but was rescusitated, after 10mins, only to be in a coma and a vegetable.  She died 33 days later.  So when it comes to Lupus (hair-loss, skin eruptions from the sun, swollen joints and pain etc) the treatment can be worse than the disease.  God bless.

Sorry to hear that, I know I lost my childhood friend due to lupus she was only 49 yrs old. I know how she was feeling. She was always inside never going out, she had hair loss, anyways the same sympton as your mom. may they rest in peace.

Thankyou guys....its been a while now since she died, but I have never ever forgot that day, and still have days of crying.  Thats why I found it odd that MJ's family didn't show much emotion....
There was NO WAY I could have got up and said anything at the funeral, or especially to sing a song...
God Bless....

[puppylove]

From that last pic posted, we can surely now say.....That was definately Michael..look at the nails.

[Vezulu]

It does upset me when people say things about MJ..   comments such as his hands look elderly is not nice.  He suffered from Lupus and Arthiritis and lets not forget the Vitiligo affected his skin so much.

None of us are perfect...  and i dont know what perfection is unless we judge from the artificial and airbrushed images the magazines present us.

To me those hands are beautiful because they are Michaels hands.  What i wouldnt give to hold those hands, to kiss them, to squeeze them....   he is so beautiful.

Thanks for your words. I think exactly the same. I have never really cared about his look, it's enough for me to hear him singing, our his laughter. But the most important thing is his soul, his messages, and the values which he represents.
I hope you understand what I mean. Sometimes I have difficulties to express myself in english. As an amateur artist I'm better in visual things.   lolol/

Sorry guys!

Love you all! Peace.

[Suzy7]

Slightly off-topic, but the talk of Lupus etc., made me think. I hate to say "poor Michael" and get all sappy  lol 8-|, but really poor Michael. He had many physical ailment's aswell as emotional trauma, and still managed to be so graceful and strong; all the whilst, he was an amazing performer, business man and father. That's a rarity.

I dont know if those are his hands on TMZ, lighting and other elements can change what they really looked like, I also don't really think this is significant to the hoax. I could ofcourse be wrong.

[Aidan_81]

Ha, my hands looked more scary once, after I had "smart" case of having
them wet, glove-free at winter during heavy frost. They turned really scary  :mrgreen:
As for Michael - lupus, arthritis, vitiligo. His skin had zero protection from sun
and hands are so exposed :cry: You see, translucent skin like his looks interesting
even when young, as he grew older with more and more sun exposure, arthritis
going rampant {I bet lupus-connected}, these big beautiful hands indeed changed
their appearance. Discoloured nails show nothing but his well known autoimmune
condition. His hands at time were swollen during say 2005 or earlier, they say nothing
about "he was about to die!". Lupus &co. is this way - lots of suffering, affects the way you look,
but not necessary kills you if you take care of yourself, which he normally did. Just
ask his former bodyguards!  :mrgreen:

[GINAFELICIA]

ahhh I was just thinking what I could add to the list of scary things about Michael: bruises on his hands crash/

I love your hands Michael, bruises or not bearhug

[GINAFELICIA]

Talking about TMZ and their pre-death stories about Michael, how is it possible that they now work together as they mocked MJ so much in the past?

But I must admit I was laughing loud at this one  :lol: (sorry Mike but it was so funny bearhug):

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/17/michael-jackson-i-come-in-peace/

[MaryK]

I suffer from a skin disease called rosacea. I can´t got out without wearing makeup all over my face.
Sometimes I just wish I could go out with a face mask or just a surgical mask like Michael did. Would be so much more convenient at times.
So I can very much relate to Michael in that respect.
It is hell not being able to go out without spending so much time on your face makeup :-(

[GINAFELICIA]

I am sorry to hear that MaryK.
Sometimes it's so tiring to have to live up to society's expectations, the way we have to look when we leave our homes, we just can not be ourselves.
I am so tired of having to wear make up every day.

[MaryK]

Thank you Gina
bearhug

Yes it´s really tough sometimes. I limits my freedom and spontaneity a lot.
I just hate being stared at without makeup. I really admire Michael and his way of dealing with his problems related to his skin. It takes so much strenght to go out and face the public.

[annieareyouokannie]

How come there are no signs of the vitiligo in the autopsy photo!!!
After seeing these pics I would have expected to see it!! Oh thats right
its a fake photo.

[MaryK]

I think that you can see the vitiligo all over the body. There are just some dark spots left. The rest of the skin is all without pigmentation.
(not saying that he´s really dead of course!).