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SoldierofLOVE wrote:What I am grappling with now is whether the FBI would, for this reason, create a hoax court solely for an expose'? That doesn’t seem typical for the FBI to do that without an actual arrest. There is no evidence of the FBI ever involving themselves in an expose that didn’t involve arrests. In that case, The Sting --and the big fish to fry -- would require a great deal of cooperation from several entities. On their website, the FBI talk alot about the various partnerships they must have. My problem with my own thought about this is why hasn’t it happened already? Why delay after delay? You wouldn’t give the crooks you want to catch enough time to figure this all out and hide would you? This is where everything becomes much more risky to me.
V for Vendetta corrupted justicecorrupted mediacorrupted doctors and pharmaceutical companiescorrupted law forcescorrupted politicianstell me who is the first option to be the focus of a sting......
Quote from: "2good2btrue"Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"Quote from: "2good2btrue"So, to prove our point, we need concrete evidence...Is that why Michael decided to make his death so dramatic, and involve a doctor, propofol and drugs ??Elvis died at home, in his bathroom. There was no-one else involved. But his doctor had to stand trial, and that took a few years. His doctor had his license revoked for years, as he overprescribed medication to not only him, but others. What was that outcome ?? A huge drug bust by the DEA and FBI.. I'd say the concrete evidence, is that MJ used propofol...a drug thats legal, but illegal to be used outside of a hospital setting.He needed someone to be put on trial, otherwise nothing would be acheived. We already had the DEA involved from day 1. Many different meds were found in alias names. Would this convince a judge and jurors that MJ was a drug addict (pre-conceived opinion) and let Murray off This is already how to media are portraying MJ..a drug addict. Case closed.....or not......saving the best for last. :? I think Elvis died in bed, Im sure the in the bathroom was a false story :?Joe Esposito talks about finding Elvis in the bathroom...You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login[youtube:33pvvjee]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djiy7iHuTMA[/youtube:33pvvjee]Thank you, but I know I read it, just cant find it at the moment. :oops: confused/
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"Quote from: "2good2btrue"So, to prove our point, we need concrete evidence...Is that why Michael decided to make his death so dramatic, and involve a doctor, propofol and drugs ??Elvis died at home, in his bathroom. There was no-one else involved. But his doctor had to stand trial, and that took a few years. His doctor had his license revoked for years, as he overprescribed medication to not only him, but others. What was that outcome ?? A huge drug bust by the DEA and FBI.. I'd say the concrete evidence, is that MJ used propofol...a drug thats legal, but illegal to be used outside of a hospital setting.He needed someone to be put on trial, otherwise nothing would be acheived. We already had the DEA involved from day 1. Many different meds were found in alias names. Would this convince a judge and jurors that MJ was a drug addict (pre-conceived opinion) and let Murray off This is already how to media are portraying MJ..a drug addict. Case closed.....or not......saving the best for last. :? I think Elvis died in bed, Im sure the in the bathroom was a false story :?Joe Esposito talks about finding Elvis in the bathroom...You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login[youtube:33pvvjee]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djiy7iHuTMA[/youtube:33pvvjee]
Quote from: "2good2btrue"So, to prove our point, we need concrete evidence...Is that why Michael decided to make his death so dramatic, and involve a doctor, propofol and drugs ??Elvis died at home, in his bathroom. There was no-one else involved. But his doctor had to stand trial, and that took a few years. His doctor had his license revoked for years, as he overprescribed medication to not only him, but others. What was that outcome ?? A huge drug bust by the DEA and FBI.. I'd say the concrete evidence, is that MJ used propofol...a drug thats legal, but illegal to be used outside of a hospital setting.He needed someone to be put on trial, otherwise nothing would be acheived. We already had the DEA involved from day 1. Many different meds were found in alias names. Would this convince a judge and jurors that MJ was a drug addict (pre-conceived opinion) and let Murray off This is already how to media are portraying MJ..a drug addict. Case closed.....or not......saving the best for last. :? I think Elvis died in bed, Im sure the in the bathroom was a false story :?
So, to prove our point, we need concrete evidence...Is that why Michael decided to make his death so dramatic, and involve a doctor, propofol and drugs ??Elvis died at home, in his bathroom. There was no-one else involved. But his doctor had to stand trial, and that took a few years. His doctor had his license revoked for years, as he overprescribed medication to not only him, but others. What was that outcome ?? A huge drug bust by the DEA and FBI.. I'd say the concrete evidence, is that MJ used propofol...a drug thats legal, but illegal to be used outside of a hospital setting.He needed someone to be put on trial, otherwise nothing would be acheived. We already had the DEA involved from day 1. Many different meds were found in alias names. Would this convince a judge and jurors that MJ was a drug addict (pre-conceived opinion) and let Murray off This is already how to media are portraying MJ..a drug addict. Case closed.....or not......saving the best for last.
@SoL: Off the top of my head, what it hinders directly is Murray's ability to move on with his life and earn a living and pay for the expense of living and defending himself. Defense asked for 2 weeks, it was said, and they got 4 months because the prosecution wants family time? Meanwhile, Murray has to retain his lawyers for 14 weeks longer then he requested after evoking his right to speedy trial. Now the trial was delayed on his request, but it does seem they used the request to impose a lengthy delay with a lame excuse (family time, seriously? Yes it's wholesome and touching but, show of hands, who else gets to take 6 weeks off their job with pay to hang out with their family?) How's Murray supposed to come up with this money to pay his lawyer(S) for 14 extra weeks? He's going to end up owing over a million $$. His medical license was suspended without any proof that he committed wrong doing, which, if he wanted to, prevents him from making a living in California, compounded by lengthy delay, Murray is really going to suffer for this in my opinion (well, the fictional character Murray is playing in this production is going to suffer, that is).
Quote from: "bec"@SoL: Off the top of my head, what it hinders directly is Murray's ability to move on with his life and earn a living and pay for the expense of living and defending himself. Defense asked for 2 weeks, it was said, and they got 4 months because the prosecution wants family time? Meanwhile, Murray has to retain his lawyers for 14 weeks longer then he requested after evoking his right to speedy trial. Now the trial was delayed on his request, but it does seem they used the request to impose a lengthy delay with a lame excuse (family time, seriously? Yes it's wholesome and touching but, show of hands, who else gets to take 6 weeks off their job with pay to hang out with their family?) How's Murray supposed to come up with this money to pay his lawyer(S) for 14 extra weeks? He's going to end up owing over a million $$. His medical license was suspended without any proof that he committed wrong doing, which, if he wanted to, prevents him from making a living in California, compounded by lengthy delay, Murray is really going to suffer for this in my opinion (well, the fictional character Murray is playing in this production is going to suffer, that is).Dear Bec, lawyers have more clients so you don't have to pay when they are not working for you at that moment, you only have to pay if they are working for excample at the trail in court, or the things they have to gather for the trail.So i think Murray doesn't have to pay for this delay.