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Debunked Clues
April 17, 2011, 10:32:09 PM
I'm not sure if this has been done already but it might be a good idea to post a list of the clues that have been  
(unanimously) debunked. I don't have much to contribute here but just an idea.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 18, 2011, 12:19:17 AM
Welcome and I'm not really sure if there is a topic about debunked clues...

But I can add some information that I have been tirelessly working on......

That day and the other day..

Ben is definitely telling the truth about that.

The pics I have saved to my computer, are taken from two different videos...

1.  From a tour bus passenger.
2.  The original video released by Ben Evenstad of MJ being rushed to UCLA by ambulance..

There are many inconsistencies with the story, and with what really happened.

Most obvious is the shadows of the trees.

Second, the lies about who took that last photo, because the pictures tell a different story.  

It has been proved that the road is really narrow, and not wide enough for all those  cars.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 18, 2011, 12:22:24 AM
And more

These are the links they have been taken from....

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Re: Debunked Clues
April 18, 2011, 12:24:19 AM
Interesting idea, debunking clues....I hope you people won't prove now that Michael is dead, debunking all the clues.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 18, 2011, 12:36:46 AM
[youtube:1we2ynvm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faG0YjpRbNs&NR=1[/youtube:1we2ynvm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faG0YjpRbNs&NR=1

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Re: Debunked Clues
April 18, 2011, 07:28:30 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Interesting idea, debunking clues....I hope you people won't prove now that Michael is dead, debunking all the clues.

I don't think you can debunk all the clues. Just some of the minor ones. Also one of the many critiques Pearljr gets is that she refers to clues that have already been debunked. If this is the case we should list them instead of presuming everyone knows. Personally I think we have enough evidence to be comfortable in what we believe, this is really just a trimming of the edges.

One clue I remember being debunked at the old MJHD website was the 2006 this is it picture. Ifthe website supposedly would routinely change a Michael Jackson related article's picture it would in turn change all Michael Jackson related articles' pictures into the same one regardless of the year it was posted. I don't think this clue is worth that much anyways.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 20, 2011, 02:55:27 PM
I think it's a good idea. If we debunk some minor clues, - and after some time, someone pulls it off we can give him/her a link to this thread. So s/he'll know whether it's true or not..
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 20, 2011, 04:24:32 PM
We can say that by popular decision that Conrad Muarry IS NOT A REAL DOCTOR :lol:  :lol: If he is, God help us.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 21, 2011, 08:03:03 AM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
We can say that by popular decision that Conrad Muarry IS NOT A REAL DOCTOR :lol:  :lol: If he is, God help us.
A debunked clue in this situation is that Murray is a real person (if nothing else). When hoax theories were being compiled in the beginning it was theorized that Dr. Murray was MJ in disguise, I think we can say that clue is debunked.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 21, 2011, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: "son"
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
We can say that by popular decision that Conrad Muarry IS NOT A REAL DOCTOR :lol:  :lol: If he is, God help us.
A debunked clue in this situation is that Murray is a real person (if nothing else). When hoax theories were being compiled in the beginning it was theorized that Dr. Murray was MJ in disguise, I think we can say that clue is debunked.

Murray can still be a real doctor...most likely the medical attention he gave on the plane was a stunt...but who's to say he is not a real doctor...I know he did all the wrong things when it came to cpr, but any person would know how to do cpr and if he doesn't means he really killed MJ which we know is not true...I think he is a doctor.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 22, 2011, 12:33:38 AM
this is tough, we are not used to debunk clues, in contrary, we see clues every where.  :lol:

 Let's see.......... there was an opinion one or two of members to my question, don't remember who, that Katherine went  shopping  in June 29,2009 "because she probably needed sleeping bags.....for kids to sleep in her house and that could be her way of grieving".
Another time I said on the thread BAM scene is a direct clue from Michael, one of the members, again I don't remember who was it, said "it is not a clue but continuance of the song that ends the TII"  or something like that.
These are not my debunks cause I do think these are very powerful clues. But this is a good chance to see if these debunks are wroking.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 22, 2011, 12:39:49 AM
I have debunked a clue a few days ago. The 911 call of which we thought came from the Beverly Hills hotel, really did come from the house. I have no idea why the screen in the firetruck gave that address, but the coordinates that are shown are from within the house, at the backside. Google Maps gives Monovale Drive as the address, which is right next to it, but one would assume that the tracking system the emergency dispatchers work with would be more accurate than Google Maps. Turns out it isn't. Still strange IMO, but according to the coordinates the call really was made from 100 N. Carolwood Drive.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 22, 2011, 01:52:11 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I have debunked a clue a few days ago. The 911 call of which we thought came from the Beverly Hills hotel, really did come from the house. I have no idea why the screen in the firetruck gave that address, but the coordinates that are shown are from within the house, at the backside. Google Maps gives Monovale Drive as the address, which is right next to it, but one would assume that the tracking system the emergency dispatchers work with would be more accurate than Google Maps. Turns out it isn't. Still strange IMO, but according to the coordinates the call really was made from 100 N. Carolwood Drive.

Does this also mean that 911 call in not fake, prerecorded? Also what coordinates shown on the screen indicates backside of the house?

[youtube:1ee245tk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4j--IZB5gk[/youtube:1ee245tk]
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 22, 2011, 02:02:05 AM
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Quote from: "~Souza~"
I have debunked a clue a few days ago. The 911 call of which we thought came from the Beverly Hills hotel, really did come from the house. I have no idea why the screen in the firetruck gave that address, but the coordinates that are shown are from within the house, at the backside. Google Maps gives Monovale Drive as the address, which is right next to it, but one would assume that the tracking system the emergency dispatchers work with would be more accurate than Google Maps. Turns out it isn't. Still strange IMO, but according to the coordinates the call really was made from 100 N. Carolwood Drive.

Does this also mean that 911 call in not fake, prerecorded? Also what coordinates shown on the screen indicates backside of the house?

[youtube:2iuevwtc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4j--IZB5gk[/youtube:2iuevwtc]

It doesn't mean it's real, just that the coordinates show that it came from the house, not the hotel as the address suggests. But as you can see on the screen below, the address that corresponds with the coordinates is not the BH hotel, so I don't understand how that could end up on the screen.
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Re: Debunked Clues
April 22, 2011, 02:07:23 AM
@Souza, you mean the map w/ house coordinate also was on the amb. screen? Do we have that screen?
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