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The next level means that we are now going to shift the focus from the ambulance picture (whether it was real or fake, etc) to whether or not some or all of the paramedics are in on the hoax. Did the actual paramedics pose for a staged ambulance shot before 6-25-09? Or did MJ use actors dressed like paramedics? Was the ambulance photo staged with the actual #71 LAFD ambulance, or another one that looks about the same inside? Would the real paramedics publicly deny the ambulance photo, if it was not them in the picture (and they were not in on the hoax)?
These and similar questions are now the focus of investigation.
Of course the ambulance photo is part of the evidence related to the paramedics, so the photo will still be discussed somewhat in this thread; but try to remember the focus of discussion in this thread. When it’s time to graduate again, I will start another thread with the focus of who or what (if anything) went to the hospital on the stretcher in the ambulance. We might need to discuss this a little now, but it’s not the focus yet; so let’s see what we can establish about the paramedics, before we focus on that aspect.
Murray's shorts leaves are an opposite pattern and the ambulance leaves are an alternate pattern. Not the same.
Quote from: "bec"Murray's shorts leaves are an opposite pattern and the ambulance leaves are an alternate pattern. Not the same.I wasn't serious with that, just injecting some humor to lift everyone's spirits and energy.
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Quote from: "SeeingClues"Quote from: "bec"Murray's shorts leaves are an opposite pattern and the ambulance leaves are an alternate pattern. Not the same.I wasn't serious with that, just injecting some humor to lift everyone's spirits and energy. Hello SeeingClues!!!!Please be carefull with that HUMOR,lol its not alowed here.All we are alowed to do is work,work and work 24/7 and a break or some laugh is frobidden here.Now take care.LOVE
Quote from: "applehead250609"Quote from: "SeeingClues"Quote from: "bec"Murray's shorts leaves are an opposite pattern and the ambulance leaves are an alternate pattern. Not the same.I wasn't serious with that, just injecting some humor to lift everyone's spirits and energy. Hello SeeingClues!!!!Please be carefull with that HUMOR,lol its not alowed here.All we are alowed to do is work,work and work 24/7 and a break or some laugh is frobidden here.Now take care.LOVEHi Applehead250609! You little nut , you beat me to it! :lol: :lol: I was going to say, "Beware, humor is not allowed, too childish". I like yours better! @SeeingClues, even if it was a joke, I did see those leaves on Dr.M.'s pants. Just that one little part, though. I actually looked for more of the material, to see if the guy was wearing pants with the guy's whole face who he supposedly killed(! :shock: )The rest of that material was some hibiscus design. But the weird thing was that one of the pictures someone had snapped of him had leaves in it, all over the place, even a big palm leaf thrown over a towel! So, maybe, not so funny, maybe he is LEAVING clues, too....
DREAMSandTRUTH wrote:Hi TS,this is the first time I read any of your posts. So your attitude to this hoax is new to me. I didn't even know that you send your posts right here, I thought Souza and Mo just copy them from thisisalsoit.com. It was also a surprise to me that you are a normal member here, I mean that you post many times within a thread, answering questions.What I don't get is that if you are this accessible, and not such a mystery guy who I thought you were, then why don't you simply tell us what you think/discovered? Why do you want us to find those things out, like it was a game? Also, why don't you post in other threads?
Because TS didn't 'discover' things, he knows things and he wants us to think for ourselves, use our brain and find it ourselves, instead of spoon feeding us like the media does.
QuoteDREAMSandTRUTH wrote:Hi TS,this is the first time I read any of your posts. So your attitude to this hoax is new to me. I didn't even know that you send your posts right here, I thought Souza and Mo just copy them from thisisalsoit.com. It was also a surprise to me that you are a normal member here, I mean that you post many times within a thread, answering questions.What I don't get is that if you are this accessible, and not such a mystery guy who I thought you were, then why don't you simply tell us what you think/discovered? Why do you want us to find those things out, like it was a game? Also, why don't you post in other threads?Quote from: "~Souza~"Because TS didn't 'discover' things, he knows things and he wants us to think for ourselves, use our brain and find it ourselves, instead of spoon feeding us like the media does.There are many smart people all over the world, also in this forum. Personally I use my brain a long time ago. And the media cannot control me easily either.I know that it's a big problem in the world that the media uses it's powers in many negative ways, also spoon feeding those people who they can.But inside the forum I don't think we need someone who wants to teach us to think, like we would be four years olds, mostly because it seems to me that TS wants to do just the same what the media does: spoon feeding us. He is telling us what to focus on? What is this if not spoon feeding?TS wrote: "The next level means that we are now going to shift the focus from the ambulance picture (whether it was real or fake, etc) to whether or not some or all of the paramedics are in on the hoax."What I really like in this forum is that we work together, we are a good team.And if someone who knows things wants to help us could easily be here as an absolutely normal member. He/she could tell/suggest us what we can know about the hoax and we would only think that he/she is just a good "investigator", that he/she has good eyes for certain things. He/she could also pretend that he/she is not one person but several, so we would think that there are several smart members here. (Like it was said many times that maybe even Michael is a member here too.) So we wouldn't start to suspect if he/she doesn't want it. If he/she finds it so important to teach us how to use our brains, he/she could write his posts in a way like "there is something fishy here, what do you guys think?"IMO this would be a proper way to help us to find out the truth finally, and at the same time not to debunk Michael if it's too early.Anyway, this is just one possibility to help us and Michael - but the way TS is helping us is suspicious for me and antipathetic.And last but not not least: TS wrote: "Finally, just like last time, I may play “DA” (devil's advocate)—and try to debunk things that are true, just to keep you on your toes! Enjoy the ride!!"Does TS think this hoax is some kind of game we enjoy???We try hard to believe that Michael is not dead, and we would really like to know the truth but at the same time to keep Michael safe. It is very hard for us. Just look around: real Michael Jackson fans are very frustrated and do not "enjoy this ride". At least this is what I see.
@DreamsandTruth.....very well said and respectfully written. Those are my thoughts exactly. I am very frustrated.
well i certainly hope not too many of us are in on it because it doesn't seem like there are many of us left. droppin' like flies around here.and not only am i seeing faces every where it seems like every pic i see any more someone has vitaligo :lol:
Quote from: "suspicious mind"well i certainly hope not too many of us are in on it because it doesn't seem like there are many of us left. droppin' like flies around here.and not only am i seeing faces every where it seems like every pic i see any more someone has vitaligo :lol:Well, a good family like ours also helps when someone has a mental problem, so don't you worry suspicious mind! :lol: