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Quote from: "MJhunny"i'm having a hard time with some things if FBI are involved and MJ's in WPP then why a)have Murray in the mix at all b) leave clues, would the FBI agree to this? c) would the FBI bother with numerology, or let MJ bother with it?I never said WPP, others are saying that though. FBI is involved with much more than just WPP.The Elvis parallels here are also interesting and informative. Elvis had governement help, and he did leave clues including numerology. But he decided not to go into WPP, because it would mean NO more contact with family or friends. Here is a little on that: You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginAs far as the numerology, I will discuss that further in another comment reply soon.
i'm having a hard time with some things if FBI are involved and MJ's in WPP then why a)have Murray in the mix at all b) leave clues, would the FBI agree to this? c) would the FBI bother with numerology, or let MJ bother with it?
Quote from: "2good2btrue"Also, is it possible that MJ has been working undercover to expose all the Dr Feelgoods??That's why he went Dr shopping and has so many different drugs in alias names? That is a criminal offense to forge a pescription..Elvis did the same thing by working with the DEA..(drug enforcement agency) Remember MJ meeting with Elvis? He said Elvis told him straight out..."Don't do drugs" Seems like all the pieces are coming together now..Speaking of Elvis...Michael has 333 pages on his FBI file, Elvis has 663, or 330 more pages, many of which are dated after August 1977.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginElvis was pronounced dead at 2:56 p.m., 30 minutes after Michael was. TS stressed the number thirty in TIAI Update 6.5. I just find that strange...
Also, is it possible that MJ has been working undercover to expose all the Dr Feelgoods??That's why he went Dr shopping and has so many different drugs in alias names? That is a criminal offense to forge a pescription..Elvis did the same thing by working with the DEA..(drug enforcement agency) Remember MJ meeting with Elvis? He said Elvis told him straight out..."Don't do drugs" Seems like all the pieces are coming together now..
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Well maybe that not the whole FBI agency is in on it, we often talked about key people in key places and when we think about the reasons for the hoax I hardly can imagine that the whole FBI is involved. Certainly a few good guys working there.
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"I agree with most of It'sHer's theorie, re actor paramedics, staged 911 calls etc. With the addition of low enforcement involvement on some level. It is really the only thing explaining why the real ambulance 71 crew has not spoken up. Also, it ties in to the previously addressed code 71- meaning approved absence. If nothing was random, than the choice of # of ambulance was not, either.Also, if there was no real 911 call, and there is no law enforcement involvement, I think actual authorites would have come forward. You can't pay off everyone. And- there are bigger lures than short-term gain. Meaning, notoriety for exposing the hoax. To me, some degree of witness protection, similar program, or law enforcement involvement (remember, the chief of la police resigned shortly after June 09- at least I think that's who it was, or other high up police official) is the ONE thing that ties together the non-matching photos, the different version 911 calls, the real paramedics vs actors issue, and impunity. I always believed there was a threat to Michael's life- as did he according to several people. Maybe, he finally got the attention he deserved and things tied into his long-term plans.It also helps explain changes in BAM timeline as well as trail date changes- if things are not purely up to Michael.Several people are generally on the right track, including this quoted comment here and the one before it {by MsTrinity333, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}. So I am now going to drop a huge clue. Actually, I thought someone would find this before now, especially with the timing clue that I gave when I posted the beginning of this thread (MsTrinity333 ).Here is your big clue: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I agree with most of It'sHer's theorie, re actor paramedics, staged 911 calls etc. With the addition of low enforcement involvement on some level. It is really the only thing explaining why the real ambulance 71 crew has not spoken up. Also, it ties in to the previously addressed code 71- meaning approved absence. If nothing was random, than the choice of # of ambulance was not, either.Also, if there was no real 911 call, and there is no law enforcement involvement, I think actual authorites would have come forward. You can't pay off everyone. And- there are bigger lures than short-term gain. Meaning, notoriety for exposing the hoax. To me, some degree of witness protection, similar program, or law enforcement involvement (remember, the chief of la police resigned shortly after June 09- at least I think that's who it was, or other high up police official) is the ONE thing that ties together the non-matching photos, the different version 911 calls, the real paramedics vs actors issue, and impunity. I always believed there was a threat to Michael's life- as did he according to several people. Maybe, he finally got the attention he deserved and things tied into his long-term plans.It also helps explain changes in BAM timeline as well as trail date changes- if things are not purely up to Michael.
I was thinking about the time of "death", wich had to be exactly at 2:26 to fit the hoax numerology. Therefore someone at the UCLA medical center must have been "in on it"?? Don't know if it has been talked about. Who pronounced the time of death?
Quote from: "finfin"Do you remember this on the 3rd September 2010, one year after the burial? No coincidenceSee postYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginIf you look at the cemetary picture on that webpage, it looks EXACTLY like the cemetary used as the background for the Thriller videos they shot for TII....just, ya know, during the day.
Quote from: "TS_comments"Quote from: "ignisaeternus"I agree with most of It'sHer's theorie, re actor paramedics, staged 911 calls etc. With the addition of low enforcement involvement on some level. It is really the only thing explaining why the real ambulance 71 crew has not spoken up. Also, it ties in to the previously addressed code 71- meaning approved absence. If nothing was random, than the choice of # of ambulance was not, either.Also, if there was no real 911 call, and there is no law enforcement involvement, I think actual authorites would have come forward. You can't pay off everyone. And- there are bigger lures than short-term gain. Meaning, notoriety for exposing the hoax. To me, some degree of witness protection, similar program, or law enforcement involvement (remember, the chief of la police resigned shortly after June 09- at least I think that's who it was, or other high up police official) is the ONE thing that ties together the non-matching photos, the different version 911 calls, the real paramedics vs actors issue, and impunity. I always believed there was a threat to Michael's life- as did he according to several people. Maybe, he finally got the attention he deserved and things tied into his long-term plans.It also helps explain changes in BAM timeline as well as trail date changes- if things are not purely up to Michael.Several people are generally on the right track, including this quoted comment here and the one before it {by MsTrinity333, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}. So I am now going to drop a huge clue. Actually, I thought someone would find this before now, especially with the timing clue that I gave when I posted the beginning of this thread (MsTrinity333 ).Here is your big clue: You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginOh, wow- I was not able to come on and check much this weekend- come back to see what I missed and find my post. I am SO THRILLED- and humbled- thanks, TS.Now, interesting that you mention that WPP is not the only thing the FBI is involved in. I have been thinking for a while: the two things people connect to Michael (beyond music) are drugs and children. If you add the FBI factor- those elements all tie to sexual exploitation of children and or pornography (usually drugs are involved). Now, this might come out of left field, but bear with me for a moment: Think of one of the themes that seems to stick out in recent songs- the corruption of Hollywood and how young girls (in those cases, but boys are affected as well) are exploited. You find this in Hollywood Tonight and Do you Know Where Your Children Are. In Hollywood Tonight, you have a line in the text book after “she’s taught that that’s not clean”- that says something like “she’s only 16” (or was it 15- once again too lazy to go check). Some motto in DYKWYCA- the girl in that song is 12. Michael having been accused of the heinous acts against children might have awoken or strengthened his disgust at what was going on. Young children/ teens being exploited is an open secret in Hollywood and you better believe he knew what was going on, having been a child in Hollywood himself and probably having seen much. Due to his insider status- he might have been able to open doors regular FBI informants could not get through.Of course, this then, ties to the top of the Entertainment Industry and would have made him many enemies (if word or even suspicion) got out. Hence- the drive to destroy him (and the money to be made on the side was certainly a bonus).So, just like Elvis the “druggy” might have worked for law enforcement to combat drug trafficking, Michael, the accused child molester might have worked behind the scenes to expose people involved in sexual exploitation of minors in the “industry.”How does the hoax/ numerology tie in? Well, he had the idea obviously for a long time. And if he knew he was in danger on several fronts, he then combined the hoax agenda with the FBI activities (whatever they are). Someone earlier asked how the FBI ties in with the “end of the world”- well, it has been mentioned numerous times that the 333 pages were released o 12/21 (2009)- which of course is also time of the 911 call. So, was it FBI to the rescue?
Great post. Great thinking and reasoning. Can you tie in the "we have 4 years"? (is that right?)