TIAI February 26

Started by TS_comments, February 25, 2011, 08:25:19 PM

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Okay, so I decided to start the redirect thread this time.   ;)

As we near the end: let's go back to the beginning, and examine once more the ambulance photo.  Not so much revisiting what has already been discussed numerous times, but rather taking a new look at something that has been there all along—and yet has been mostly overlooked.  Some people have thought it was a face hidden in the picture {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=17791;
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t299-ambulance-photo-weird-images}.   However, it's easy to see faces in random shapes such as the clouds, or mountains, etc.





This zoomed area is a leaf-like pattern (whether or not you see a face hidden in the pattern).  So the big question for now is whether the pattern ...
#1 ... is part of the secondary image (with the red car, etc)?
#2 ... is part of the ambulance interior design?
#3 ... is edited into the picture (Photoshop), not part of the ambulance or secondary image?

To help you figure out the answer: I have included below four different ambulance photos, a video of the wall area behind the red car, and a video of the inside of ambulance 71 (11803, CA 1261551).











Wall area behind the red car (starting at 1:40): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2NQJMm3mi4

Inside ambulance 71 (starting at 9:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMB5gfcVChg


See what you can figure out.  I will probably join in the discussion on this thread, but I will not redirect to any new comments in this thread.

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MJonmind

#195

Speculating on the "end of the world" scenario and "We've only got 4 years to get it right", and thinking about the leaves.

Quote

Matthew 24:30-39 (King James Version)

30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

The 100 Carolwood house was flooded with water on June 28 with the same red Toyota Prius still parked in front; still a mystery to me, but the flood could be a related reminder sign.

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Pri·us   /ˈpriəs/  [pree-uhs]
–noun, . Trademark .
a brand of hybrid car, one of the first commercially successful, that runs at lower speeds on an electric motor powered by a battery pack, and at higher speeds on a gasoline engine, which can also recharge the battery.

Origin:
1997; from the Latin prius  meaning "coming before"; also related to such English words as "prior" and "primary"

—Citations
"In hybrids such as the Toyota Prius, computer software decides when to run the [gasoline] engine, when to run the electric motor and when to recharge the battery. ... A full hybrid, such as the Toyota Prius, can provide a fuel economy improvement of 60 percent or more."
  —Joseph J. Romm and Andrew A. Fran, "Hybrid Vehicles Gain Traction," Scientific American  (April 2006)

Are these all signs?


2good2btrue

#196

Long shot here.....but what if the whole purpose of the red car, relection on the window, is to tell us that maybe MJ is in that car ???

And the image of the leaves, could be related to Palm trees, Dubai or Hawaii??

Or, it looks a little bit like "Hold my Hand" video ending, when we see a reflection in the puddle and then we see a palm tree ???


GINAFELICIA

#197

OK, I am a little late on this, I just figured out that red light was a reflection of a red car that clearly was there. The red car's reflection is not photoshoped right? So there was an original picture taken there that day that moment.Or should I say there were at least 4 original pictures.

Now ........we think it wasn't Michael in those pictures..... but the paramedics were there, so if we look at their position in the ambulance and to what they are doing there and assuming they are not in the hoax, they had to work on a body. One of them had his hand on that body's chest and the other is keeping something in his left hand OK?

So, if they are not in the hoax, they were clearly working on that body, so we can safely assume a body was there.

So please someone tell me why we think it wasn't Michael's body  :?  :( .......


lilwendy

#198
Quote from: "Yambo3003"

I'm starting to think this photo was taken in a set and not inside an ambulance. Just a thought....

All this picture analysis and thoughts of this possibly being in a set makes me think of the pictures of man landing on the moon. Lol

But that's another topic all together... ;-)


croMJfan

#199
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"

Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"

Quote from: "croMJfan"

I'm new with this stuff with the hoax and all. I don't have any experience but from what I've seen from another people and their clues and thoughts. I wanted to share this with you.Has anybody seen something wierd about this photo? It's an interview with Ben, the photographer. It sais RIP KING backwords behind his back on a piece of paper. What does that suppose to mean?

I think of it this way. RIP = Rest In Peace....but PIR ??? PIR = Peace In Rest....maybe it's related to the hoax I don't know...like it's telling us Michael needs PEACE in his REST ( read: faking his death ) . Do you agree? Tell me what you think.

L.O.V.E.

First of all I wanna say Hi...I remember on another thread this was mentioned but I cant remember where...but I have no idea what this means but I think it could be a clue to the hoax. Why its backwards is another thing.

Thanks TS but if we hit a dead end in a theory does tha mean its wrong?

I did see the pic your referring to when I watched the video. The paper is taped from the other side of the window. Most likely it was wrote with a sharpie pen which will show through paper and can be seen from the other side of a window.

Does that make sense?

Peace

Hy, thanks for taking the time to reply me. It could be the case, but then why is it taped on the outside? It doesn't make sence to me that that piece of paper is taped on the OUTSIDE of the room, or whatever it is. Looking forward to your reply.

L.O.V.E.


AnaMarcia

#200

It seems that Michael was in that car then! Or maybe a double!
Maybe Michael has really gone for a ride in an ambulance. Or maybe the picture is real, but the timing is wrong ... ie, there is this picture of Michael, but in another place and another day.
Oh God! Hopefully more clarification!  :?

"Tell the angels no... Heaven can wait"!

MJhasSpoken

#201

So we have to focus on 2 things; the hows of the hoax and some of the people in it.
So I am guessing from what we've seen Ben is apart of the hoax.
The paramedics I don't think are as they could not recognize MJ as they thought it  was an old man but they were definitely working on a person. So I am guessing someone did die that day or it was a dummy which would mean the paramedics would be in the hoax too (but I doubt they are).

When Ben said; "the other day" maybe photos were taken the day before June 25th that were staged like in a set (which one of you already mentioned). So Ben returned on June 25th when someone would died.
He then came back on June 25th to take more pictures to make it look like he got the actual pictures of MJ in the ambulance to say he was there that day (but maybe he did not use these pictures that he took on June 25th, who even knows that these photos are any good).

I don't think the red car is significant but it is probably there for a reason.Maybe for the others that were around the area it would prove that Ben was there that day as the red car was there.


paula-c

#202

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMB5gfcVChg

You can see in the video of the interior of the ambulance camilla not at the level of the window, this below, the photographer " should have tilted the camera to obtain that photo ". You can see that this stopped with the camara pointing directly, not if i mean well.


paulnotpeter

#203

I see a word where the leaf pattern is on Ambulance2. I don't want to say which word so as not to influence what word you see. I took a screenshot but I'm unable to upload it due to some issues of quota. Oh, hi everyone, nice to meet you, glad to be here.  :D


looking4truth

#204
Quote from: "lilwendy"

Quote from: "Yambo3003"

I'm starting to think this photo was taken in a set and not inside an ambulance. Just a thought....

All this picture analysis and thoughts of this possibly being in a set makes me think of the pictures of man landing on the moon. Lol

But that's another topic all together... ;-)

:lol: Good point.
Awareness + Awakening = Higher Consciousness

MJhasSpoken

#205
Quote from: "paulnotpeter"

I see a word where the leaf pattern is on Ambulance2. I don't want to say which word so as not to influence what word you see. I took a screenshot but I'm unable to upload it due to some issues of quota. Oh, hi everyone, nice to meet you, glad to be here.  :D

If your talking about the words near the pattern...I think I see a 'X' or 'H' or both...nice to meet you too.

fordtocarr

#206

New on BANKSY....

Graffiti Artist Banksy Banned from Oscars
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110223/en_ ... m_oscars_1

So the other thing that this photo makes me think of is the mysterious artist Banksy, who has been all over the L.A. area lately.  Banksy is a graffiti artist who's identity has never been confirmed.   His art is amazing and unique.  Just type in Banksy on google images.  He's even been nominated for an Oscar this year (this Sunday actually) for Best Documentary and he wanted to show up in a mask to keep his identity a secret but I'm not sure if he's allowed to or not.  It would be so cool if he showed up in a Guy Fawkes mask!  But back to the above photo, the hidden face (that I see anyways) looks like it's been drawn on, sketched on the photo somehow by an artist.  It's reminiscent of Banksy's style or something.  I hope I'm not the only one who sees that because if I am, maybe what I'm looking at isn't the same face others see.

And sometimes the pic looks like it's a photograph of the "actual" ambulance photo.

Thanks for the ambulance photo reminder - it has been making a comeback in recent months, as it should.[/quote]


trustno1

#207

Banksy was told he wasn't allowed to wear a disguise so he declined to show up.  I was talking about him in the dodo thread the other day, I reckon they'd get on well! As for the photo I've tried cropping, flipping, backlighting, filtering, etc on the leaves/face pattern and the only thing I know for sure is that my eyes are like this... :shock:  :lol:  I don't think it is actually leaves now after staring at it so long. Though the fact that it resembles leaves on first glance may be all that was required.  As for seeing a word paulnotpeter, I can't make it out.  But then my eyes are shot after all this close scrutiny!  Welcome, by the way! :D

In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream.  And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.

fordtocarr

#208
Quote from: "trustno1"

Banksy was told he wasn't allowed to wear a disguise so he declined to show up.  I was talking about him in the dodo thread the other day, I reckon they'd get on well! As for the photo I've tried cropping, flipping, backlighting, filtering, etc on the leaves/face pattern and the only thing I know for sure is that my eyes are like this... :shock:  :lol:  I don't think it is actually leaves now after staring at it so long. Though the fact that it resembles leaves on first glance may be all that was required.  As for seeing a word paulnotpeter, I can't make it out.  But then my eyes are shot after all this close scrutiny!  Welcome, by the way! :D

Yep I know what you were getting at.  I just thought I'd throw this in as it's funny that this artist (which MJ is) is unknown in his identity and also wanted to wear a mask!!  Wonder where his idea came from :)

RK

#209

If the leaf pattern was inside the ambulance, was the photo taken  beforehand and with the pic ready to go,  Ben and friend were acting  on the 25th? I can't reconcile  this shot of a youthful MJ on the gurney with what we've been told from the ambo's, that he looked like a bald, frail old hospice patient who they didn't recognize. Not according to my eyes. In fact he looks to have discovered the fountain of youth and turned back time to 1989.  Now if perchance that ambulance at Carolwood on the 25th had the leaf mosiac forming a collage of MJ faces within the one larger face which is another when reversed [ whose a clever artist then?] it would mean that the paramedics are also a part of this hoax as any functioning professional vehicle would not have that on their drawer/wall.   And what time precisely was it that Michael had long gone....to the airport.
Right here I want to add my disclaimer: that at any  time I am free to change my mind on said theory and adopt a more plausible line of reasoning.
TS ever since we started noticing faces and strange goings on within TMZ posted pictures , I have really really really wanted to know why. I am asking why? What is the purpose and why so much effort invested in something so few recognize.  :?: Okay.. I can hear the cogs in my brain grinding to a halt for now.


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