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Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 04:27:32 PM
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2/25/2011 12:50 PM PST by TMZ Staff  

Katherine Jackson's business partner wants the MJ Estate off his back in a legal war over MJ merchandise ... claiming Michael himself picked the same fight when he was alive ... until he realized he couldn't win.



Long story short -- the Estate wants Howard Mann to stop using MJ's name and image to hock  various websites, books, and other products. Problem is, according to Mann, this is the exact same lawsuit that Michael pursued back in 2004 ... only to "abandon" the legal fight in 2006.

Mann claims ... because Michael bailed on the case, and a judgment was issued against the singer, he lost the legal right to stop Mann's company from using his image to sell merchandise.

Mann claims the the Estate shouldn't get a second bite of the apple ... by being allowed to sue for the same claims in 2011.

Now, the case is in the hands of a federal judge -- who will decide to either green light the case ... or shut it down.
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all4loveandbelieve

Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 04:29:05 PM
Anything to use Michael's name for its own purpose. Why do they do that?
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 05:05:26 PM
That's a great picture of Mike... But aren't they all? :D
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 05:52:26 PM
I do not understand this, as is that Katherine is a partner of man who once Michael demand? :?:
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
Who the fuck is this mother fucker? Estate must win and get green light. Katherine does stupid moves too. Legally she also cannot use MJ's name without Estate permission. Yes, her son. But that's the law. She needs to get qualified legal advise before doing anything.
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 06:30:43 PM
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Who the fuck is this mother fucker? Estate must win and get green light. Katherine does stupid moves too. Legally she also cannot use MJ's name without Estate permission. Yes, her son. But that's the law. She needs to get qualified legal advise before doing anything.


AGREE WITH YOU. I don't understand why katherine is doing business with this scavenger..  :lol:
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 06:43:35 PM
Just my opinion....
but it is starting to sound like Katherine might be wishing she had never met this Mann character about now herself.

It probably all sounded good on the surface when presented to her by Mann.
A nice book about her son etc.
Which has turned into yet ANOTHER lawsuit nightmare.

It is sounding to me like Mann [Mr shady] stepped in and took advantage of a
broken heart-Katherine's.

My  2 cents.
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 06:56:38 PM
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Just my opinion....
but it is starting to sound like Katherine might be wishing she had never met this Mann character about now herself.

It is sounding to me like Mann [Mr shady] stepped in and took advantage of a
broken heart-Katherine's.

Why Katherine's heart is broken? Michael is alive, right? If Michael is alive, what fuck she needed memorabilia fucking books to publish with help of this mother fucker?
IF GOD FORBID MICHAEL TURNS OUT IS DEAD,  I AM GONNA GO TO ECINO AND PLACE A HUGE SIGN OF SHAMFUL WORDS ON HER ADDRESS AND EXPLANATION DEMAND HOW SHE COULD GO TARGET STORE WHEREAS MICHAEL WAS PASSED FOR just 4 DAYS, AND HOW COME SHE and KIDS NEVER ATTENDED FOREST LAWN AFTER BURIAL.
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 07:01:00 PM
You guys may already be aware of this....I knew some of it but not they why's sooooo....thought I would share.

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Huge Dispute Between Michael Jackson’s Estate and Howard Mann Seems Inevitable

Posted on | December 29, 2010 |

In 2001 the parents of Michael Jackson, Katherine and Joe Jackson, sold an enormous Jackson family memorabilia collection in a bankruptcy auction. The collection of memorabilia was originally intended to be put in a planned family museum. However, when Katherine and Joe Jackson hit financial hardship in 2001 they sold it instead. The collection eventually ended up in the hands of a New Jersey construction company owner, Henry Vaccaro. Vaccaro later set up a pay-per-view website where fans could pay a fee to view the collection material.

In 2004, Michael Jackson sued Mr. Vaccaro and his company, “Vintage Pop,” for copyright infringement, cybersquatting and violation of his privacy rights. However, after the pop singer’s acquittal on child molestation charges Jackson refused a deposition and stopped paying his attorneys. This apparent abandonment of the lawsuit against Vintage Pop led the district court judge overseeing the case to dismiss the claim “with prejudice.” This ruling may mean that no one in the Jackson estate can ever sue “Vintage Pop” for copyright infringement or any of the other causes of action set forth in that 2004 complaint initiated by Michael. It turns out that this ruling became very profitable to one Howard Mann.

Howard Mann bought the memorabilia collection and “Vintage Pop” from Mr. Vaccaro as an investment opportunity just after Michael passed away. Howard Mann claims that since he now owns Vintage Pop and the Jackson memorabilia collection that he can do with it as he pleases without interference from the Jackson estate. He claims this immunity due to the previous court holding that dismissed the 2004 suit against Vintage Pop “with prejudice.” Mann claims that this ruling shields his collection and any use of that collection from any intellectual property claims made by the Jackson estate. Loyola Law School professor Georgene Vairo seems to agree with Mann’s claim from a civil procedure prospective. Professor Vairo asserts that by Michael abandoning the 2004 case he has already had “his bite at the apple” and has essentially “forfeited his intellectual property” that Mann now owns.

Just a few months after the singer died, Howard Mann approached Katherine Jackson (Michael’s mother) with a business opportunity. Since Mann owns the collection and since Katherine does not feel that she gets enough monthly money from the Jackson estate, Mann made her an offer that she apparently could not refuse.
He offered to collaborate with her in selling the collection items such as photographs, family videos, etc. in a multitude of ways. The current venture seems to be a book of photographs that Katherine Jackson co-authored that even Oprah helped to promote. The book is comprised of photographs of Michael which are all a part of the memorabilia collection that Mann still owns.

Estate attorneys for the Jackson family have yet to make any legal move to interfere with Katherine Jackson and Mann’s pursuit to sell the intellectual property for profit. However, the estate’s attorney Howard Weitzman has said that the estate will be taking “appropriate legal action.” Mann’s claim to immunity has yet to be tested in court which means the final verdict on his ability to use the memorabilia collection as he sees fit remains to be seen. The Jackson estate thus far seems hesitant to speak up against Katherine Jackson because she is the guardian of the belated singer’s three children and highly adored by his fans.

Well that answers [ for me anyway] WHY this went to a Federal judge to decide.
Howard Mann is  a bloodsucking vampire.
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Just my opinion....
but it is starting to sound like Katherine might be wishing she had never met this Mann character about now herself.

It is sounding to me like Mann [Mr shady] stepped in and took advantage of a
broken heart-Katherine's.

Why Katherine's heart is broken? Michael is alive, right? If Michael is alive, what fuck she needed memorabilia fucking books to publish with help of this mother fucker?
IF GOD FORBID MICHAEL TURNS OUT IS DEAD,  I AM GONNA GO TO ECINO AND PLACE A HUGE SIGN OF SHAMFUL WORDS ON HER ADDRESS AND EXPLANATION DEMAND HOW SHE COULD GO TARGET STORE WHEREAS MICHAEL WAS PASSED FOR just 4 DAYS, AND HOW COME SHE and KIDS NEVER ATTENDED FOREST LAWN AFTER BURIAL.


I will leave from Montreal and join you  that is for sure. There must be a lie somewhere. I am sure these tabloids are lying some how. I don't know anymore. I am a very positive person, and I have enormous faith in God, but right now I am getting fed up... Lies, lies lies. and always more lies. katherine knew that Michael fought him before, so why did she join this idiot.. I hope God can come down and tell us.. wishful thinking.
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 07:14:20 PM
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katherine knew that Michael fought him before, so why did she join this idiot.. I hope God can come down and tell us.. wishful thinking.

Well there is always the chance that Katherine did not know.
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 07:29:48 PM
I wonder if randy will say something soon he has been quiet
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Just my opinion....
but it is starting to sound like Katherine might be wishing she had never met this Mann character about now herself.

It is sounding to me like Mann [Mr shady] stepped in and took advantage of a
broken heart-Katherine's.

Why Katherine's heart is broken? Michael is alive, right? If Michael is alive, what fuck she needed memorabilia fucking books to publish with help of this mother fucker?
IF GOD FORBID MICHAEL TURNS OUT IS DEAD,  I AM GONNA GO TO ECINO AND PLACE A HUGE SIGN OF SHAMFUL WORDS ON HER ADDRESS AND EXPLANATION DEMAND HOW SHE COULD GO TARGET STORE WHEREAS MICHAEL WAS PASSED FOR just 4 DAYS, AND HOW COME SHE and KIDS NEVER ATTENDED FOREST LAWN AFTER BURIAL.


I will leave from Montreal and join you  that is for sure. There must be a lie somewhere. I am sure these tabloids are lying some how. I don't know anymore. I am a very positive person, and I have enormous faith in God, but right now I am getting fed up... Lies, lies lies. and always more lies. katherine knew that Michael fought him before, so why did she join this idiot.. I hope God can come down and tell us.. wishful thinking.

I'll meet you at the airport.  :D
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bec

Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 11:40:00 PM
Ever consider that Mann is working for Michael?

Ps. back said to leave KJ alone in regards to this issue...
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Re: Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
February 25, 2011, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Just my opinion....
but it is starting to sound like Katherine might be wishing she had never met this Mann character about now herself.

It is sounding to me like Mann [Mr shady] stepped in and took advantage of a
broken heart-Katherine's.

Why Katherine's heart is broken? Michael is alive, right? If Michael is alive, what fuck she needed memorabilia fucking books to publish with help of this mother fucker?
IF GOD FORBID MICHAEL TURNS OUT IS DEAD,  I AM GONNA GO TO ECINO AND PLACE A HUGE SIGN OF SHAMFUL WORDS ON HER ADDRESS AND EXPLANATION DEMAND HOW SHE COULD GO TARGET STORE WHEREAS MICHAEL WAS PASSED FOR just 4 DAYS, AND HOW COME SHE and KIDS NEVER ATTENDED FOREST LAWN AFTER BURIAL.


I will leave from Montreal and join you  that is for sure. There must be a lie somewhere. I am sure these tabloids are lying some how. I don't know anymore. I am a very positive person, and I have enormous faith in God, but right now I am getting fed up... Lies, lies lies. and always more lies. katherine knew that Michael fought him before, so why did she join this idiot.. I hope God can come down and tell us.. wishful thinking.

I'll meet you at the airport.  :D

Count me in too guys! Hell, I'll even pay for everyone's plane tickets!!! :lol:
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