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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
March 13, 2011, 07:31:11 PM
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The collars - from the second video and from the poor quality first video:

Great point. Thanks for this. There still is some difference, obviously with his nose but that could've been pre and post surgery. I'll be neutral about this for now. This does prove that it could've been the video quality though.
Thank you, looking4truth!
I think it's pre and post surgery. Two different videos. The background and his chairs are different too.
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
March 13, 2011, 09:43:09 PM
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The collars - from the second video and from the poor quality first video:

Great point. Thanks for this. There still is some difference, obviously with his nose but that could've been pre and post surgery. I'll be neutral about this for now. This does prove that it could've been the video quality though.
Thank you, looking4truth!
I think it's pre and post surgery. Two different videos. The background and his chairs are different too.

Totally agree with you both. That's definitely Michael in both videos. Thank you for the pictures DREAMSandTRUTH.
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
March 14, 2011, 02:34:50 PM
It was my pleasure, PureLove!  :)
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
March 20, 2011, 08:16:25 PM
I Believe that MJ had impersonators but I don't believe that there is 2 Mj or more and just think Simple Nobody can talk exsacly like MJ so lets stay on the One and only Mr. Michael jackson
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
April 28, 2011, 01:44:50 PM
30... no I'm just kiddin... in the second interview...

I'm still enjoying that moment. That was too funny!

BTW... in the first he reminds me a lot of Janet.

L.O.V.E.
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
April 28, 2011, 04:50:16 PM
I swear lol sometimes y'all crack me up! Its MJ in both interviews, no one can duplicate his voice exactly like that. No one! seriously, and when you have listened to Michael for so many years the way I have and many others, you can't be fooled.Some of you are just looking too hard into things  :roll:
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
April 28, 2011, 10:28:25 PM
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I swear lol sometimes y'all crack me up! Its MJ in both interviews, no one can duplicate his voice exactly like that. No one! seriously, and when you have listened to Michael for so many years the way I have and many others, you can't be fooled.Some of you are just looking too hard into things  :roll:

Exactly!
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
April 30, 2011, 12:29:49 PM
the odd theeth in the first clip i've seen in TII, I was then thinking that MJ was puting on new veneers. But maybe this explaines it, two different people allt together. the nose in the first clip also the same nose as on the sketch of the "dead" mj's face....  hmm hmmm hmmm..

his way of speaking about himself is also 100% him in the second clip, but not so much in the first clip.
also at the end of clip 1 the  presenter thanks michael for this candid  interview.  candid can be both upright and honest as well as... candid camera....
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
April 30, 2011, 09:09:56 PM
I'm pretty sure there's more then one man we know as Michael Jackson and that is has been that way for a long time. I'm not sure how I feel about it, it kind of freaks me out a little to realize that it's probably the truth and it's been in front of us and under our noses for some 20 years. I'm not angry or upset about it but it is a shock. I don't think about it very much because I really just can't comprehend it. It changes everything that there are, and have long been, 2 Michael Jacksons.

The man himself is an illusion:
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
April 30, 2011, 11:04:35 PM
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Here are two interview clips from 1983. To me, something seems off. Look at the teeth and nose. Perhaps, you'll see what I see. It could be video quality  and possible nose surgery but I am not sure. What do you guys think?


[youtube:1t92ex18]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nUDVG7bLeU[/youtube:1t92ex18]
[youtube:1t92ex18]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lao3_sB0_nY[/youtube:1t92ex18]

to me it seems like if could be two different times. in the first one his lips look kind of parched almost to the point of being sore. in the secons they look soft , pink and healthier, like he had been ill or dehydrated in the first one. the other stuff i think could be faked . i wonder if the lips could be made to look this way? he had probaly just been around all of those makeup people and learned how to get different looks out of stuff. idk i think this isn't the kind of knowlegde he would get from karen but more like rick baker.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Quote from: looking4truth
Here are two interview clips from 1983. To me, something seems off. Look at the teeth and nose. Perhaps, you'll see what I see. It could be video quality  and possible nose surgery but I am not sure. What do you guys think?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nUDVG7bLeU[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lao3_sB0_nY[/youtube]

What the hell can I think anymore? This man either has a few doubles or the stories about the plastic surgeries are true or the make-up is used to create illusions all the time.
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With morphs and references to teeth:
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There's this pic:
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Check out in the same blog (Nov 2009, older entries):
The Mike J Jackson ~ Michael J Jackson thing again
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It Takes Two To Tango…The Truth, The Lies, The Guilt & Making up

More threads:
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And then there's these pictures eg:
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A double's video - see that smile:
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Since teeth can be made to look identical, we may think about about ears, jaw line (reduction) and hands.
Sometimes it is useful to check early thoughts again.
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This person in the first vid of the original post must be a shapeshifter! Reptilian teeth - OMG!
Was MJ a shapeshifter? I don't think so.
Vid quality has got nothing to do with that - Casey Casem's teeth are normal........
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thank you Grace for taking time to collect teh links and photos.
I do think it is more to this than many want to believe, nevertheless one has only to look at old photos to see that
they cant possibly all be of the same person, they are soo different...
But here is what I think about the real michael: during the  funeral and memorial they had pictures from the early 90's and  the 80's  nothing later, so taking that  in mind, and taking  in to account how the "different" mj's act on tv or in photos (sparlkle in the eyes, his smile, the way he mimics) etc I would say that the person being the real MJ is the MJ with a  rounder face, a cute little smile, less makeup and  a sweet little nose...
I've got some photo examples....
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Re: 1983: Is it just me or something is off?
August 24, 2011, 06:42:03 PM
I believe this is the real MJ in both videos. I do not agree that the interviews were on the same day. He probably just wore the same outfit. His teeth look to me like he was in the process of getting them fixed. MJs smile is too beautiful not to have been cosmetically altered. I do see a difference in the nose. The skin does look lighter, but he said himself that the vitiligo became more pronounced later than 1983. I think this is just the lighting in the video (not well lit).
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