Bahrain protests banned as military tightens grip

[MissG]

What's going on there is I think very subtile in the sense that it is not a bad thing when a dictator leaves but problem is that the dark side wants to take advantage/control over the situation and direct the flow of the revolutions for the benefit of their agenda. What's happening in these countries was coming anyway because of the bad treatment these populations have had to endure throughout the years with the help of the western world who are only demonstrating their tremendous hypocrisy and are only making a mockery of what democracy really should be.... there is a limit maybe that cannot be crossed. Gaddafi was okay before but now the truth is too apparent so they prefer to disengage totally and point their fingers. So the same with Mubarak they really had a hard time to stop backing him up and remember what happened with Saddam.

I could have written that myself. I totally agree with your view Sarahli.

[everlastinglove_MJ]

Now Tunisia is also moving.

If the oil is not sold "we" (EU, USA) are going to have a hard time. Those countries moving towards something better gathers a lot underneeth  :|

Let´s hope that their manifestos are productive, because the next one taking power can be just as bad. Democracy is what they want but they don´t have a reference nor experience about what real democracy is. Hope the outcome is not as a 2nd Yugoslavia  :|

Anyway, not all is so bad, some fun came out of it   or t least, music...would this be the next hit?

[youtube:37bjqr2n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqPuKocHlU&feature=related[/youtube:37bjqr2n]

Wow, he sings better than he rules :lol:  :lol:


I agree, I hope it will not end up in a civil war, Gadaffi's son is warning about.

[MissG]

I am dancing to the tune   I found more remixes! :lol: Zanga zanga rocks!

[Supervision]

well, here is an assorted answer to some of the post I read here by various posters, reposting  excerpts to help me express/answer/suggest, what I am saying about the issue of LYBYA

...it's a long post once again, :roll:
 so, pls. all are welcome to read all or skip, if not interested

by everlastinglove_MJ » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:28 am
This is exactly what is going on in Libya. Because of the fact that this criminal regime is desperate gives them NO RIGHT to deprive the people’s freedom and right to protest! This is a serious crime.

The Power Brokers speak:

“The UN Human Rights Council has vigorously asserted its role in defending human rights by at long last deploring the rogue regime of Muammar Gadhafi for its brazen violence,” said AJC Executive Director David Harris.
“The Libyan regime’s flagrant human rights abuses deserve the fullest investigation and punishment by the world body.”‬

WE Turn the page back ...

Libya was elected for a three-year term on the Council just under a year ago, with a majority of 155 of 192 members of the voting in favor of the African country's admission.

page forward:

UN: Security Council Refers Libya to ICC


U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Sunday the United States was reaching out to Libyan opposition groups seeking to oust longtime leader Muammar Gadhafi.

Word/comment from the Gaddafis...in their own defense.
The Colonel speaks[/size]
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In a telephone interview with Serbia's Pink television station, he said Saturday's United Nations Security Council vote imposing travel and asset sanctions on him and close aides was null and void.


"The UN is not allowed to meddle in the internal affairs of other countries, unless a country is attacking another state," Gadhafi told the Belgrade-based station.

Media witchhunt implicated:

It said he had been speaking from his office in the Libyan capital Tripoli.
Gadhafi accused the world body of "making decisions on the basis of news reports" and said a UN commission should investigate the situation in Libya.

The Son..and heir apparent? :?  Seif Gaddhafi:?

A defiant Saif Gaddafi says most Libyans aren't up in arms against his father and he blames the media for broadcasting false reports

Interviewed by Christiane Amanpour on America's ABC network - he was asked for his reaction to  #FF0000]calls from the Obama administration for his father to go[/color]
.

SAIF GADDAFI:
First of all, it is not American business.
That is number one.
Second, do you think this is a solution? Of course not.


He says:
 there's a big gap between reality and media coverage; and rejects reports of air-force pilots firing on protesters.
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by everlastinglove_MJ
Reading all well written opinions and gathered news on this topic, the bottom line is that the human rights in Libya are severely repressed, we no longer do not tolerate this, it’s time for justice and it’s about time to ACT.[/size
“It appears to be a criminal desperate effort by a criminal desperate regime to prevent people from exercising their rights to protest”
.

Because of the fact that this criminal regime is desperate gives them NO RIGHT to deprive the people’s freedom and right to protest! This is a serious crime.

UN: Security Council Refers Libya to ICC

What really is going on in LYBYA..
A historical background to the Libya "Revolution"[/b]

Question we must ask to get a clearer picture:


Who is behind the demonstrations in Libya? Who forms the opposition to Gadhafi?

Exerpt from a Libyan Jew..Historian:

I attach great importance to the hatred and antagonism that exists between the two parts of that country - between the region of Cyrenaica which covers a little more than one half of the area of Libya and has Benghazi as its capital, and the region of Tripolitania with its capital, Tripoli.

The focus of the unrest is in Cyrenaica where they still remember that Gadhafi overthrew King Idris I who was born in the region.
In addition, Libya has a problem that is similar to the one we saw in Egypt, and that is unemployment.

There is tremendous unemployment in Libya despite the oil reserves and despite the huge water projects that the regime has introduced.

But the thousands of people with an academic education who graduate every year from the universities have no work, and the unskilled jobs in agriculture and construction are taken by refugees from other African countries, and this creates bitterness.
 Another opposition element is the Islamists who exploit the mosques.

There is a great deal of disinformation on both sides.

There are also reports that policemen have defected to the side of the protesters but that is typical mainly of the Cyrenaica region.

For the time being, it seems that the army and the revolutionary guards are standing behind Gadhafi.
 On Friday he headed a procession to show that he is in control of the situation and to give backing to his supporters.

But Libya also does not resemble Egypt from the point of view of its government. It has a very special regime that is locked up in its own ideology.

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by Gema » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:12 pm
Now Tunisia is also moving.

If the oil is not sold "we" (EU, USA) are going to have a hard time. Those countries moving towards something better gathers a lot underneath  

Let´s hope that their manifestos are productive, because the next one taking power can be just as bad. Democracy is what they want but they don´t have a reference nor experience about what real democracy is. Hope the outcome is not as a 2nd Yugoslavia  

The real issue about everything  Libya=OIL/Uranium other issues of importance of the land imo...

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned that volatility in international oil markets as a result of the instability in Libya posed a "serious threat to the world". London oil prices inched close to $120 on Thursday, a level not seen since mid-2008.

A call for Justice and humane values vs. Opportunistic self interest and the abuse of POWER etc i.e the SANCTIONS against GADDAFI.

Turkey's PM speaks out against Libya sanctions
We call on the international community to act with conscience, justice, laws and universal humane values — not out of oil concerns," he said[/colo.

An old ally of LYBIA  speaks about the nitty gritty issue re: this so called revolt for democracy in Lybya"


You can agree or not with Gadhafi,” Castro said. “The world has been invaded by all sorts of news … We have to wait the necessary time to know with rigor how much is fact or lie.”

But he did urge protests of something says is planned: A U.S.-led invasion of the North African nation aimed at controlling its oil
.

“The government of the United States is not concerned at all about peace in Libya and it will not hesitate to give NATO the order to invade that rich country,[/size]
perhaps in a question of hours or very short days,” Castro wrote.

“An honest person will always be against any injustice committed against any people in the world,” Castro said. “And the worst of those at this instant would be to keep silent before the crime that NATO is preparing to commit against the Libyan people.”
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my notes:
  the issue of a current and ongoing human rights abuse against civilians, a very small sample..where is the outrage of human rights abuse ... :?

Afghan gov't: NATO op killed 65 civilians
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 What people are saying re: the LYBYA issue: ...collected comments YT and elsewhere...

Another country going to be destroyed by mobs, all the strength of Arabia/Africa is being drained out by the CIA and the dumb people think it is revolution....
What a shame.

Think for yousleves, why is Gaddafi hated by the west and why are these uprisings causing so much delight in the west?
You foolish, foolish sheep.

· There are more than 200 countries in the world. Libyia is 44-th by GDP per capita does it mean, that Libyan people live in poverty?
I don't think so... If Libya has to remove regime what have to do other 166 nations? People are used by external powers to exploit   Libya, so stop hypocritical grieve about people's fate and human rights abuse!!!
 
Muammar Gaddafi is a real man, real leader, real patriot of his homeland and a father of his nation!!!!!
Libya is being sabotaged, infiltrated, manipulated and destroyed by foreign agents lead by the CIA.This is an orchestrated and staged coup by western intelligent agencies which is stirring up young people to protest who don't understand what's at stake nor do they value their country's sovereignty and independence.
USA has bought off government officials,(LYBIAN  deplomats/defectors at UN and/or US and where ever, handed out protest signs in English and mass produced the former royalist flag.Foreign agents are opening fire to blame the Lybian gov.

by Sarahli » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:57 pm
Gaddafi was okay before but now the truth is too apparent so they prefer to disengage totally and point their fingers. So the same with Mubarak they really had a hard time to stop backing him up and remember what happened with Saddam.

I wonder why is Al Quaeda so silent?
They don't care about the people is the real truth and i don't doubt that everything that is happening in the world right now has to do with the cleansing of the earth before the new coming age.

[/quote]

@RSCII Very well said,whoever can't see what's really going on must be dumb,I smelt a rat a couple of days into the Egyptian "revolt" everything seems too convenient,I think it has too do with peak oil or "they" want WW3 but my only Q is why the sudden rush??

bet my ass that the fucking international parasite is behind the turmoil in Libya
. There is no evidence whatsoever of any air attacks on Tripoli.
A Finnish eyewitness.
 who has eyesight from his hotel haven't seen any air attacks on the alleged places. There must be somekind of footage of it. But sure everything that the Jewish owned msm says are truth for the idiotic masses of the west.
suutari13 5 days ago

How is Libia bad? They are miles ahead of the other African countries, they take nice $ for their work, the law is strict. WTF? He's making the same mistake as Sadam - want's to sell petrol for euro !
US is bond to petrol sales, if petrol started to trade in euro the dollar will die, so US is again doing what they do - war's , start with "civil" one go to full scale one
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Support for Mr. Gaddafi from around the world..

trini2thebone ..Totally agree whith you..Mr. Gadaffi is a very intelligent person and a man of honour.
Why are all the speeches not properly translated like fi. foreign movies?? and we have to listen to a manipulated translation by somebody who is not speaking Arab at all (i suppose).
Here in the Netherlands we are with you mr Gadaffi!!! stay stron

Full support of Gaddafi! Colonel, hold out until the final victory! Do not allow to you these CRAZY people from USA and UK break up your country . ALL SERBIA IS WITH YOU

@judyroodi Exactly. Gadhafi was a saint compared to the reign of Hussein's terror. While the rise in commodities (denominated in US dollars) and inflationary food prices is mostly to blame.

It is also copycat revolts, provocateurs from intelligence agencies of the more powerful nations, and an information war aimed at stirring the pot intentionally.

Conclusion: IMO
These uprisings are no accident, and the global power structure (banking oligarchy) wants to create their order out of this renewed chaos[/color]

 My note: .
..NWO long standing  plan/MOtto= Order out of CHAOS..

Peace..

[MissG]

I wish to be wrong but looks like all these new situations will be another excuse for UN and/ or USA to "take over to put order" in those countries.

I don´t want to experience a WW3. Those countries, as I said, gather a lot underneeth and other countries around te corner gather nuclear power.

[Supervision]

by diggyon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:21 pm
@Supervision
i like the way you interpret the whole scenario in the Middle East. But what makes you so sure that it is all planned long before?

Because, that is basically how government operates...short term and very very long term plans.

The longest plan in general,  as I had mentioned already is the Magna Charta .
.the Great Works of the AGES...
i.e. an 'ideal" plan , constructed for the progressive leadership of humanity / the whole Globe if you will.=NWO.

Is it written somewhere in the newspaper or is it only your personal opinion?

No it is not an personal op,per se, just a historical fact in the history of civilization/s
. ...do a bit of research,if you will, to ascertain for yourself, how things work in the political arena, and you perhaps will come to the same conclusions as I.

Since I mentioned personal opinion, how do you think this whole up rise in the Middle East will end?

Well, if things go well, then, new “puppet pseudo democracies” will be set up for the now “democracy loving Arab people” , while, if that were to take effect, then, there will automatically follow  a consolidation of resources in the hands of the elite power brokers, ...

i.e. in this instance would be petrol,  as well other minerals materials and even the strategic location of the lands themselves as a strategic points of control.

Egypt is very important in this area/ it's location being very  Close to Israel, while she is   pretty much considered a foe of Israel by and large.
So, for that and other reseans, it is important for the U.S.to have Egypt under it's  control.

As for the Islamist, they also, as quiet as it is kept are a part of the high Elite, in other words with pretty much the same agenda in the end???.

It is/may not be  transparent to the believers  of Islam, but really nevertheless, it is quite true, I am afraid.

It is only an appearance of opposites, at times,  but not always  in reality , the way I assess it has to work, for the final showdown to be realized...i.e. NWO..

Somehow I feel that you are not optimistic at all!

Well, the optimism I dare to hold lies in that, that, first of all, I believe in an Almighty God that is over all this man made much ado,....

after that, the way I see it, if  the world will accept it’s fate, and keep on churning according wht the planners say do, then, there should not be much of a problem,  :lol:

 that is to say, for the ones that would still be alive and kicking , the rest will be eliminated systematically through various methods.=Population reduction as planned.[/size]

As for running around seeking "revolutions", well,   in the end, really, there will not be too many direction left to run to . imo.

 All centralized governance , with a dictatorial type  edicts running the show, covert and overt.

 If you are a Christian like me, those times then,  would be called the reign of the AntiChrist, spoken of in the Bible.

 

So what do you think will happen to Europe next?!

Well, Europe is a block now, so it will breathe together as one with the U.S. ...the free trade agreements were put together to form blocks ....that would form and define, the few designated  divisions of power on the whole globe, the way I see it ,and a very needed thing for now, when you stop and consider the giant China .

 

Because of that uprise the European economy has been directly affected. I bet some Elite are facing some economic problems as well.

Yeah, the elite have real real big problems, and I am all hearts...ha ha.
 :lol:
And the real huge problem they got, that I see, is, how they can best pass the lie as truth through their propaganda, and numb the people of this world to believe one thing, while they go on and do another, like the how they would  swindle these  rich countries like Lybya, out of their natural  wealth.,

 and in this and other acts like it,they, no doubt will come to  enjoy, one more scramble for AFRICA, like the one in the old days in a different version of it,...a modern day Slavery if you will,

 the only difference this time will be, the majority of  all the peoples of the world are also invited to participate, black /white/green purpule does not matter much anymore,
all would be ideally, as modern "slaves" of the ruling organ.

So was that whole scenario necessary in the first place  

Yes..a long term plan on it's way to  coming to fruition..One world currency, NWO  , you know the story.. .

I guess no dictator would like to step down and leave, other wise he will be killed by his opposers.

No, imo. lol. a dictator is usually a power crazy person, and usually never steps down, it is not just the money they can steal or the power that they enjoy that keeps them on the spot, but actually, it is a sort of a mental disease. Lol. :lol:

 Other wise a lot of them will just steal and go become beach bums... for the rest of the lives.  :lol:

I think I read somewhere that Mubarak owns more than 70 billion $. So would he give this money to the Egyptians?

No, of course not. Do the American politicians return the money they make in kick backs, back to the people? That would be the day lol. :lol:

All politicians are uniquely positioned to enrich themselves, and most of them do take advantage of their position.

They usually have both feet in the whole pic.

 One foot they got in  government making policy, while they also sit on the boards of the multi billion dollar corps.
Again, a  revolving door is what  goes on in the most democratic set ups too.

So as you can see,it is not just dictators who steal and rob their constituency , the corruption is/may be present or  is even worse in the so called democratic states, like the U.S and the politicians here for instance.

It is the case of the pot calling the kettle black, to tell the truth .

Ghaddafi's fortune is even bigger as he ruled longer than Mubarak. lol.

Ghaddafi, to my knowledge,has been accused of many things except corruption,  Never.

The man really does believe in his “third way ideology”  as I understand him , and by and large
.
 as for corruption,$$$$, I can not say what is what with his sons though,having being raised/schooled in the modern ideologies of me first type of Greed..

If someone has 130 billion $ abroad and is about to be overthrown by his own people and is a dictator, then I wouldn't expect to hear something else from him, because he knows what might happen to him if he stepped down on his own: he will be imprisoned, and maybe killed as well.

No Gaddahfi could have taken the route of Mubarek,or other even worse "killer dictators" , and stepped down and  gone into the night,  with all his fortune in tact more or less, and nothing would have happened to him at all.

 Have you not heard the old corrupt  goat, Duvalier of Haiti, is actually  back in Haiti, since the earth quake,with ambitions to try to get back in office again? :roll:  lol.
 I mean the saga of the Duvaliers was as shameful as it was  ridiculous as the Marcos’s in the Philippines..

So why die alone? Let the people suffer a little, exactly the way he is suffering.

Not it has nothing to do with letting the people suffer,per se, in most cases, except where there is tribalism going on, like it is in Lybya now or in RAWANDA, or UGANDA,

In LYBya's example, The East LIbyans , the socalled “protesters" are of a different tribe, and do not like the GADDFas ..from which Gaddafi originates, and still has his loyal supporters as we speak..

So, if they frail to come together, after they already having seen the carrot stick of "independance" these past few days,Lybya perhaps will become like it was in  RAWANDA, God forbid..you know what I mean?  
A tribal Civil war.

Soooo, to conclude, in my view, that is what is happening in Libya ,and the hands of the Americans and the west is no doubt in it,all achieved perhaps, by triple dealings with the other factions within the ARAB community at large, including Al Quiada.
 Yes al Quiada..lol.  

He doesn't want to die in vain. These are not the words of a hero but rather the words of a criminal who is about to be caught by the police.

No,  Gadhafi,imo. is no more a criminal,imo. than the police force, who are pretending to be the police as you describe  them here. :roll:  

They, just about all of them, are also are criminals of one sort or another,if you will,  who are lying through their teeth to take advantage of the situation they themselves created for their own benefit..

 All is about power and economic gains. .. they could not give a S...t about human rights .Sorry if you believe otherwise,and I will respect your op.
 
But...Pls. believe me when I tell you. No one cares too much about that sort of thing the way they profess to do,, all part of the whole make believe show to a great extent..  :?

The people who really care about human suffering are other "regular" humans, people like me and you.

The Govs ?
...nahh...they certainly,don’t care ,at least not the way the average citizen thinks they do or would, all is expendable if it comes to a choice of interest vs. conscience etc.imo.

 

He kills the hostages and fights till the end.

The "protesters"  are not hostages, they are a group that is seeking to secede , since we already see them busy setting up a side  government, and are actually trying to get recognition by the world at large in just a few weeks "protest".  :roll:


This whole thing is stinking up to heaven...lol[/size]

This would then be a  Civil War, if GADhafi can hold out, which I don’t know how he can.
He seems to be pretty hemmed in now, and I do so hope, if he in the end will be on the loosing end,  bloodshed would be avoided.

This is not new!

.

Well, the new thing is , the Powers that be want to make Gadhafi a poster boy, or a quick  precedent for war crime criminal/against humanity ,

which such one voice condemnations,set a precedent,
and  could later be used or applied to all sorts of other "rogue:  nations, if they even dare to breathe, let alone make any sort of "trouble" against the wishes of the Masters of the UNIVERSE ;)

. All of those pointing fingers at Colonel Gaddhafi now, for crimes agains humanity, bla bla bla,...almost without exception, are all "honorable" holders  of, perhaps more grave records in human rights violation.

Now that is  what is new,  

the neck breaking speed in which these "humanitarian heart throbs" gathered together to do the dirty deed without so much of a pretense of double checking to see what really went down in the "demonstrations" in Tripoli , LIBYA . Imo.
I hope this helps.
Peace.

[paula-c]

The following Article is one of the few Venezuelan journalists more or less impartial, in this case i agree with him.

The news of Libya

Eleazar Díaz Rangel | Sunday, 27 February 2011 09: 24 am

I price as one of Latin Americans who have most studied the movement of news in the region. In my book "International information in Latin America" show how the news agencies (that since 12 May 1876, when they signed a treaty to spread worldwide, for the first time included Latin America) are running their information policies in line with the geopolitical interests of their respective countries. What is good for us is good for the AP and CNN; It can be repeated with England and the Reuters, France and the AIA and the majority of agencies. Course changes in world politics is have been reflecting on the interests of agencies and services. Why Senator Hiram Johnson could say in 1917, during World War I, the first victim of the war was the truth. Truth that is still valid to this day, and that the events of return to demonstrate

Almost all information that we transmit these events, especially the first days was oriented to affect the image of the Government of to the Gaddafi and favor those who have rebelled. Not these correspondents has private effort to disseminate the reality of what was happening. They spread rumors without any confirmation and species. Find and write the truth wasn't the ethical standard of many of these journalists and media.


Where they released the news that "military aircraft libios…bombardearon several places" Tripoli, as reported Arabiya TV Monday 21 and that "at least 250 people had been killed in the capital in the bombing of the air against the manifestantes… force" as transmitted on the same day to the Jazira? Not presented any image of the effects of the bombing, and five days later not had been able to offer them. Any agency explained that loyal to Gaddafi had cleaned up the streets and hidden debris! And how is it that no building is damaged? Everything that I had said "witnesses" unidentified, of course

These "news" were retransmitted by all agencies and have been published in hundreds, thousands, say, media from around the world, and they read or heard millions, tens or hundreds of millions of people in all countries, and were "analyzed" by articulistas and TV and radio commentators.


In the same vein of inventing the news very British Chancellor Willian Hage said Gaddafi had flown to Venezuela, and other "not identified, but all credible sources" invented the kind of Cubans piloting the aircraft the Libyan military refused to do so to continue shelling the civilian population. (And regarding bombing, the agencies have not remembered in 1986, executed by aircraft USA, which caused) (60 deaths, including a daughter of Gaddafi).


In Libya there has been an important reaction against the Government of Gaddafi, that after 40 years it has against the wall, and at least three important cities in the East of the country, close to oil wells and oil and gas pipelines, have been taken by the rebel forces. In Tripoli there is apparently a calm situation as Telesur has been reflected in their transmissions, but information remain unclear. Until Friday, despite the exhortations of the son of Gaddafi, seems that had not entered foreign journalists. Its absence hinders the movement of information to better understand the situation. I don't know if to you, but we were surprised and confused over the own Gaddafi announced publicly the presence of Al Qaeda in the area controlled by the rebels and the Taliban.


Of course there are complex domestic and foreign factors are not alien to the chaotic situation affecting that country with the largest reserves of oil from Africa and major supplier of USA and Europe. The role that should be playing some of the powerful tribes in that area is not clear. Not sure how can be aligned some son of Gaddafi as Seif Al-Islam, nor who control oil production. These eastern cities and the role that can be playing Al Qaeda who dominate

Washington Consulting peers from the European Union to take joint action. The EU adopted some but unaware of military order. Already oriented actions from UN and just read statements by heads of the most powerful countries to know where are the shots. It speaks the Libya Division into three pieces.


The fall of Gaddafi, with or without foreign military intervention, with the presence or not of the UN seems possible. If this happens, the dam greater Libyan oil, one of the lighter world, coveted by the Western powers. Soon they have valid calls to make the Libyan people that resolved this enormous crisis

[Grace]

What's happening in these countries was coming anyway because of the bad treatment these populations have had to endure throughout the years with the help of the western world who are only demonstrating their tremendous hypocrisy and are only making a mockery of what democracy really should be....

Yes, Sarahli, indeed, most European leaders preferred a carpet crawler perspective and one of a shut mouth and "hurray, long live the regime".
That is a truth that many are not aware of.
This is diplomacy by intelligence, resource exploitation and weapon sales and not diplomacy by statesmen.

As to resources, this is an interesting link:
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It is also true that tourist business was of similar colour as to "keep your eyes off and your mouth shut". Hundreds of thousands of tourists should have known better but did not care.
I hope that some minds will be changed after all.
God bless those fighting for their freedom.

[diggyon]

@Supervision
thank you for this post. I bet it took you a very long time to explain every detail!
I also believe in God and I believe that the Antichrist will show up one day!
This means the end of the world is near. I don't know if it is going to be 21.12.2012 or not!
But anyway God can change all these devilish plans of the elite. God is our only hope!!

P.S. How come you know so much about the NWO and their plans?!?!?

[Sarahli]

Supervision wrote:
Egypt is very important in this area/ it's location being very Close to Israel, while she is pretty much considered a foe of Israel by and large.
So, for that and other reseans, it is important for the U.S.to have Egypt under it's control.

Mubarak was the perfect puppet and appreciated by Israel because he helped greatly to maintain the inhumane Gaza blockade for example. So Israel/USA, the NWO powers, etc. surely would have prefered that Mubarak had stayed safely in power, they already controlled Egypt. There's no denying that he was a dictator oppressor of its people. So i really don't understand what would be their point in making Mubarak fall. Obviously Israel was pissed off and tried as well as others to maintain him despite the people's rejection. Of course the NWO plan is in march but i feel like what happened has shaken a little bit their arrogance and this situation will surely make them hasten their plan to take control over the world (as if it was possible) but i'm sure that they will make a lot of mistakes and self destroy. Maybe yes that it is the end of this world and maybe that invisible beings have been busy stamping some people on their foreheads.

Israeli president defends Mubarak as peacemaker, warns against Muslim Brotherhood

JERUSALEM - Israel's president said Saturday that Egypt's embattled leader, Hosni Mubarak, will always be remembered for preserving three decades of peace between the two nations.

Israel is deeply worried about the prospect that Mubarak could be forced to step down by the unprecedented street protests in Egypt and that a less friendly government will emerge. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that any new government must maintain their 1979 peace deal — Israel's first with an Arab nation.

On Saturday, President Shimon Peres delivered an impassioned defence of Mubarak, crediting him with saving both Arab and Israeli lives by preventing war in the Middle East.

"His contribution to peace, as far as I'm concerned, will never be forgotten," Peres said in an address to hundreds of visiting members of the European Parliament.

During the three decades Mubarak has been in power, he has consistently enforced the peace treaty signed by his predecessor, and he has mediated between Israel and the Palestinians.

Peres warned against the possibility that Mubarak's ouster would bring the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's best organized opposition movement, to power, saying the fundamentalist group won't bring peace.

"We're very worried about having a change in government or a change in the system of elections without introducing a change in the reasons that brought this explosion, this bitterness," Peres said.

He appealed for foreign investment to bring technology, development and openness to Egypt.

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[NightOwl]

Great posts, people!
What has been very odd about this situation is the domino effect in a number if arab countires. How come so many countries are cracking simultaneously? Hmm....
The western vultures are circling above waiting for enough reason to enter.

Here we go, another move on the chess board:
"U.S. repositions military forces around Libya"
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[Sarahli]

Great posts, people!
What has been very odd about this situation is the domino effect in a number if arab countires. How come so many countries are cracking simultaneously? Hmm....
The western vultures are circling above waiting for enough reason to enter.

Here we go, another move on the chess board:
"U.S. repositions military forces around Libya"
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That's the one million dollar question!  :lol:

[paula-c]

The following article explains a bit whoever is behind these " revolutions " and the way to defeat,..a little difficult

Win the Revolution in the Comfort of your Own Home

Many people who visit this site ask “What should we do about this?”. Some criticize those who spend time seeking information, blaming them (even calling them cowards) for not taking part of a violent revolution. While I used to believe that taking the streets and shoving police in riot gear was the epitome of change, I’ve understood that it is not. Real revolution can happen while you’re sitting at home, wearing sweatpants and petting your cat. Is there something less threatening than a person in sweatpants petting a cat? No. But if this person understands the system’s traps and pitfalls, it can become the elite’s worst nightmare. Here’s an article that perfectly puts into words this concept

Believe it or not, growing your own food or visiting your local farmers market is more revolutionary and constructive than burning down your own city and killing security forces

As Washington plunges the Middle East and North Africa into chaos, and city by city collapses into the hands of globalist stooges, many have mistakenly interpreted this “change” as a positive transformation.

On the contrary, the regimes that will replace the embattled nationalistic dictators in each nation the globalists despoil will interface not with the national governments in the service of their people, but will interface with the “civil society” underlay the Western backed NGOs have meticulously built up over decades. This “civil society” will in turn answer to corporate serving globalist institutions, like the IMF, WTO, World Bank and the UN, instituting crushing economic “liberalization.”

We have been given a prepackaged ideal of what “revolution” is supposed to look like. So when we see people in the streets battling security forces, waving flags, all within the backdrop of their burning society, we are satisfied that “revolution” is taking place. But the reality is, this is not a revolution by any stretch of the imagination. It is a high-tech, high-speed invasion and subjugation, a corruption of the sovereign state similar to what Tacitus described in Roman conquered Britannia.

            From HistoryWorld.net:
‘His object was to accustom them to a life of peace and quiet by the provision of amenities. He therefore gave official assistance to the building of temples, public squares and good houses. He educated the sons of the chiefs in the liberal arts, and expressed a preference for British ability as compared to the trained skills of the Gauls. The result was that instead of loathing the Latin language they became eager to speak it effectively. In the same way, our national dress came into favour and the toga was everywhere to be seen. And so the population was gradually led into the demoralizing temptation of arcades, baths and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as ‘civilization’, when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement.’

Tacitus Annals of Imperial Rome, translated Michael Grant, Penguin 1956, 1975, page 72

As we can see, “civil society” is not a new idea, nor is the concept of lulling a population into decadence and complacency while rolling them into a corrupt, exploitative domineering empire.

Real revolution will take place when people realize what indeed is really happening, who is behind it, and then no longer paying into their corrupt system. This translates into boycotting the corporate combines behind the very policies we deplore, and replacing “their” system that benefits only them, with our own system that solely benefits ourselves.

The following lists contain the corporations and institutions that constantly turn up behind the most heinous atrocities unfolding today. From the millions murdered in the misadventure in Vietnam, to the millions dying or maimed in the global “War on Terror,” and of course the the chaos unfolding during the premeditated reordering of the Middle East and North Africa that will indefinitely affect millions of lives and their future, these are the people responsible:

CFR Corporate Membership
Chatham House Major Corporate Membership
Chatham House Standard Corporate Membership
International Crisis Group Supporters
Movements.org Supporters

Some may be skeptical of whether or not boycotting and replacing the elitist system that currently domineers mankind is even possible, however it is already taking place. The alternative media is one such example, where people fed up with being lied to by obnoxious propagandists have decided to turn off the TV and report the news themselves. It has become a self-sustaining industry with exponential growth, where reputation and accuracy is replacing the slick graphics and 500 dollar suits that used to represent “legitimacy.”

The alternative media offers people accurate information. Accurate information is essential when making life decisions. Hearing the truth allows us to make decisions that benefit ourselves and our community. This stands contra to the current corporate owned media who would have us living our lives to benefit their shareholders, even to our own detriment.
We can and we must translate the success of the alternate media to all aspects of our life. The globalists have this unwarranted power because we have continuously paid into the corrupt system they have created and monopolize.

If young men became local deputies instead of joining the army, if we stopped shopping at Walmart (CFR), drinking Pepsi (CFR), eating at all the corporate owned junk-food restaurants, canceled our credit cards, canceled all but our internet connections, and basically boycotted all globalist corporations in general – along with replacing them with our own local system, where would the globalists get their manpower? Their money? Their legitimacy?

They need us, we don’t need them. That’s the big secret. We get our freedom back as soon as we take back our responsibilities for food, water, security, the monetary system, power, and manufacturing; that is independence. Independence is freedom, freedom is independence. We’ll never be free as long as we depend on the Fortune 500 for our survival.

Fixing these problems unfolding overseas starts with fixing the problems in our own backyards. Boycott the globalists, cut off their support, undermine their system, and they lose their ability to commit these atrocities. That will be a real revolution and it can start today. Not burning cities and masked rebels waving flags, but communities no longer dependent and fueling a corrupt system we all know must come to an end.

Source: Activist Post

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[everlastinglove_MJ]

@supervision

All is about power and economic gains. .. they could not give a S...t about human rights .Sorry if you believe otherwise,and I will respect your op.

The people who really care about human suffering are other "regular" humans, people like me and you.

I appreciate your ops a lot. That I don’t always react doesn’t mean I’m not with you, it means that I don’t know all the facts, although I try to keep up with the news (when I got the time   ). It’s a serious matter which deserves all the attention. The political and economical controversies are based on own national profits as a priority, though human rights are down below the priority list, that’s the reality. I agree, I am a “regular” human who really cares about human suffering, but that doesn’t make me an idealist. I’m now even more determined to plead and fight for human rights, because people who stand up for freedom, to fight for a better life like you and me, deserve to be protected, specially in this battle for power. Of course I have a personal political opinion, yet I find that less important than human rights at the moment.

[MissG]

Great posts, people!
What has been very odd about this situation is the domino effect in a number if arab countires. How come so many countries are cracking simultaneously? Hmm....
The western vultures are circling above waiting for enough reason to enter.

Here we go, another move on the chess board:
"U.S. repositions military forces around Libya"
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That's the one million dollar question!  :lol:

together with who is TS and when is MJ coming back!  :lol: