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Michael Jackson might still be alive if Conrad Murray hadn't been chatting me up on the phone, claims Sade Anding

PRETTY Sade Anding told last night how Michael Jackson's doctor was chatting her up on the phone as the superstar lay dying.
The waitress claimed Jacko might even have SURVIVED if Conrad Murray had been giving him his full attention.


King of Pop ... Michael Jackson died from a lethal dose of Propofol
Murray - the star's £100,000- a-month personal physician - made the call after allegedly administering a cocktail of drugs. He is said to have left Jacko's bedroom before ringing, then returned still on his mobile to find him battling for life.

The time of the call and how long 57-year-old dad of seven Murray spent on the phone is set to be crucial at his trial, due to start next month.

Sade, 24, said Murray began calling her and showering her with cash after they met in a steakhouse and bar in Houston, Texas. He pursued her for seven months - despite him living with 28-year-old former stripper Nicole Alvarez at the time.

Describing her call with flirty Murray, Sade told The Sun: "I said, 'Hello' and he said, 'It's Conrad'. I asked him what he was doing and he seemed distracted. It just took him a long time to say anything.

"So I was like, 'OK, let me tell you about my day.' I must have gone on for five minutes or so.

"I started saying, 'Hello? Hello?' I pushed the phone towards my ear and I could hear coughing and mumbling - there was a lot of commotion.

"It seemed like the phone was in his pocket or somewhere that made a lot of noise. That's when I hung up. I called and texted him but he didn't respond.

"I knew there was something really wrong. I felt like this stabbing pain in my chest.

"For him to get off the phone like that without saying anything to me was not normal and, with all the commotion, it seemed to me like an emergency.

"I turned on the TV a couple of hours later and heard about Michael. I realised that must have been what was going on. I was really sad about his death and to have heard all that stuff over the phone was really upsetting."

Sade went on: "Maybe Conrad could have reacted faster. I'm mad that he didn't take care of Michael like he was supposed to.

"I wish he had never met me. Maybe if he hadn't called me, Michael would still be here. I feel so guilty."

Jackson, 50, collapsed at a rented Los Angeles mansion in June 2009. Murray tried to resuscitate him but paramedics were not called for 25 minutes.

The Thriller star was finally declared dead in hospital. It was revealed at a hearing last month that Murray had been on the phone at the start of the drama - but it was thought he had been calling Alvarez, the mother of his young son, at their home in Santa Monica.

The drugs Murray is said to have given Jackson include powerful sedative Propofol. Murray denies involuntary manslaughter and is expected to claim Jacko gave himself the fatal dose.

Sade said the first time she saw the cardiologist he handed her a $100 tip for a $10 drink.

She recalled: "He told me he was from Trinidad and that he had started a clinic in Houston.

"He told me he was very successful. He said the song I'm Coming Up is the theme of his life - that he came up from nothing to where he was now.

"He said nothing about a girlfriend and all these children.

"We talked for about 15 minutes and eventually he said he wanted me to look after him every time he came.

"Sure enough, he kept coming back and tipping well."

They would speak on the phone at least once a week, and Murray started referring to Sade as his girlfriend. But despite their numerous meetings she insisted they never had sex.

She said: "I told him I had a boyfriend. I was his confidant. I felt like I was important to him. I felt like he needed me to get things off his chest. He would call me and tell me about his day and his problems. We just talked about random stuff."

Within a few weeks he landed the role as Jacko's personal doctor. Sade said: "He said Michael and him had been good friends for a while, ever since Prince got sick and he was called out and Michael liked him.

"After he took on Michael he started to show off a little more. He tried to impress me with it.

"Every time he saw me there was money involved, but I didn't ask for it.

"We went to a pizza place for lunch and as I was leaving he gave me a hug, grabbed my hand and gave me $450. Another time he asked me to come to his hotel and gave me a black strapless dress. We went for a meal.

"He brought up Michael in a very weird way. He said, 'I bet Michael is missing me right now.'

"After the meal we went to a bar. On the way he took out $400 from a bank and gave it to me.

"Back at the hotel I sat in a chair in his room and he sat on the bed. He gets out a cheque book and writes something, rips out a sheet and gives it to me - it's a $500 cheque.

"Looking back I think he was hoping I would join him on the bed, but I said I had to go."

Murray promised to bring Sade to England to meet Jacko at his ill-fated gigs at London's O2 Arena.

Sade said they still spoke on the phone after the star's death, but calls would last no more than two minutes and Murray seemed worried they might be recorded.

She added: "He told me that whatever I hear about him to not believe it, that he would explain himself - and that he was sorry that I had to go through this."






What stood out to me is the song mentioned. I'm coming up sang by Diana Ross.

I'm coming out
I'm coming
I'm coming out
I'm coming out
I'm coming out
I'm coming out

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

There's a new me coming out
And I just had to live
And I wanna give
I'm completely positive
I think this time around
I am gonna do it
Like you never do it
Like you never knew it
Ooh, I'll make it through

The time has come for me
To break out of the shell
I have to shout
That I'm coming out

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

I've got to show the world
All that I wanna be
And all my billities
Ther's so much more to me
Somehow, I have to make them
Just understand
I got it well in hand
And, oh, how I've planned
I'm spreadin' love
There's no need to fear
And I just feel so glad
Everytime I hear:

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

More of a perfect song for MJ...the words such as;
I'm coming out (BAM/Return)
I want the world to know (Announcement to the world that he LIVES)
The time has come for me (Timing of the BAM)
I have to shout (Tell us why he did it...to warn us)
There's so much more to me (he is not just a performer but someone who cares for the world and the people in it)
Somehow, I have to make them just understand (why he did it...faked his death)
And, oh, how I've planned  (not to worry because he always thinks things through and is a few steps ahead of everyone)
I'm spreadin' love (Army of L.O.V.E)
There's no need to fear (not to be worried it will all work out)

 are very telling

  Link

PureLove

Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"

What stood out to me is the song mentioned. I'm coming up sang by Diana Ross.

I'm coming out
I'm coming
I'm coming out
I'm coming out
I'm coming out
I'm coming out

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

There's a new me coming out
And I just had to live
And I wanna give
I'm completely positive
I think this time around
I am gonna do it
Like you never do it
Like you never knew it
Ooh, I'll make it through

The time has come for me
To break out of the shell
I have to shout
That I'm coming out

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

I've got to show the world
All that I wanna be
And all my billities
Ther's so much more to me
Somehow, I have to make them
Just understand
I got it well in hand
And, oh, how I've planned
I'm spreadin' love
There's no need to fear
And I just feel so glad
Everytime I hear:

I'm coming out
I want the world to know
Got to let it show
I'm coming out
I want the world to know
I got to let it show

More of a perfect song for MJ...the words such as;
I'm coming out (BAM/Return)
I want the world to know (Announcement to the world that he LIVES)
The time has come for me (Timing of the BAM)
I have to shout (Tell us why he did it...to warn us)
There's so much more to me (he is not just a performer but someone who cares for the world and the people in it)
Somehow, I have to make them just understand (why he did it...faked his death)
And, oh, how I've planned  (not to worry because he always thinks things through and is a few steps ahead of everyone)
I'm spreadin' love (Army of L.O.V.E)
There's no need to fear (not to be worried it will all work out)

are very telling


Ditto! :) A very amazing song choice to summarize the hoax. And about this news; the dramatic structure is very needed for a feature film. And this one feeds the drama side of the hoax. Michael is going to show the world and this is definitely going to be a Thriller II!
 :D


PureLove

February 03, 2011, 09:33:46 PM #31 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"

It is weird. She is overacting, a better actress would have cost more and they have a budget, this hoax has a big cast. lol

Sometimes Overacting is used on purpose to let the Viewers know that what they are watching is NOT real and it is all just a movie. ;) So probably she is overacting on purpose or she was chosen instead of a professional actress because overacting was needed, and it was known that she was going to overact.  :)

nefari

I just saw her on TV moments ago crying her eyes out saying how she regrets being on the phone with Murray and saying she heard choking and coughing sounds in the background but she's also very vague. She didn't say maybe I could have saved Michael by not being on the phone but instead maybe I could have prevented the things that went on in that room from happening the way they did.

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2good2btrue

I could be wrong, but she does look so familiar....is this the same person who was at the private funeral ???  The one that hugs the mystery man (who could be Dr Murray in disguise) ??????????????????? The one who is standing up in this still
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU ... re=related
[youtube:2ag3e72c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU7_8&feature=related[/youtube:2ag3e72c]


Sinderella

Quote from: "2good2btrue"

I could be wrong, but she does look so familiar....is this the same person who was at the private funeral ???  The one that hugs the mystery man (who could be Dr Murray in disguise) ??????????????????? The one who is standing up in this still
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU ... re=related
[youtube:14ivsk2v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU7_8&feature=related[/youtube:14ivsk2v]

She is an actual actress,her name escapes me atm though
She is the one the camera fixes on while she talks to someone and says something along the lines of
"I was crying,and then he told me he was still alive,and then we all went together,we went with him to (looks like she said hayvenhurst still working on it!)"

DREAMSandTRUTH

February 04, 2011, 05:54:30 AM #35 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"

Quote from: "mdc"

Um, is she supposed to go around giving interviews if she's a witness in the case?

And...
Did that interview seem weird to anyone else? The whole time I was thinking they really should have gotten a better actress for that part. lol

It is weird. She is overacting, a better actress would have cost more and they have a budget, this hoax has a big cast. lol

Something is not okay with this many people being involved in the hoax. A secret can be kept when you involve as less people as possible. It bugs me from the beginning.
And the preliminary hearing... did they all lie under oath???
I can only imagine that maybe the whole "death" scene was played by a few people who were in the know, and others who also stayed in the house that day still think it was real. So they don't have to lie. (Although they are lied to... but it's another topic). Probably this Sade is not an actress, and she really thinks that Michael is dead.
But this theory of mine is also a little strange and I wouldn't really like if this was the case... But then again - how could so many people keep this big secret if they are all involved?
Sorry if it was discussed earlier (probably it was) but I never found a topic about it, and in the last months I have had less time to read the forum.


Sinderella

Who runs this TNZ on twitter,True news zone?
They don't have a clue what they are talking about

Example

Quote

TrueNewsZone TNZ [True News Zone]
Yet pretty odd that 'Sade Anding', is giving interviews about that "certain call" here and there, wasn't a witness in the dr. Murray case.

ER,she was?
On day 4,2nd on the stand,before lunch and before Bridget Morgan and Nicole Alvarez.
TNZ are about as good at reporting the actual news as TMZ....

Last week they tweeted that the 'fans' trying to get into FL-who we know are Taaj and one of her stalker friends-were believers trying to prove it's empty.

Give me strength.


2good2btrue

I agree with that.....how can so many people keep a secret.

But maybe because, all the certain people involved, have a "gag order" and are on payroll...or contract.  There are many, many actors trying to get a job, and I'm sure if the price is right, they will do what they have been told to do, under some signed confidentiality agreement...IMO.

I have seen many familiar faces at every public appearance and courtcases.

I have extensively researched this from the beginning, and it is possible that this is the case.  The rest is just nature taking its course.  There are beLIEvers, and fans fighting for justice, but we are not on a payroll.

Certain actors continually show up, and it leads me to believe that these people are playing their part in this amazing hoax.

Remember the first child support hearing with CM???  There were some weird looking people there, who seem to be in disguise.  They may have been used later for other roles and have not been recognised in their new role.


DREAMSandTRUTH

Quote from: "2good2btrue"

I agree with that.....how can so many people keep a secret.

But maybe because, all the certain people involved, have a "gag order" and are on payroll...or contract.  There are many, many actors trying to get a job, and I'm sure if the price is right, they will do what they have been told to do, under some signed confidentiality agreement...IMO.

I have seen many familiar faces at every public appearance and courtcases.

I have extensively researched this from the beginning, and it is possible that this is the case.  The rest is just nature taking its course.  There are beLIEvers, and fans fighting for justice, but we are not on a payroll.

Certain actors continually show up, and it leads me to believe that these people are playing their part in this amazing hoax.

Remember the first child support hearing with CM???  There were some weird looking people there, who seem to be in disguise.  They may have been used later for other roles and have not been recognised in their new role.

Thank you for your answer 2good2btrue!
I haven't thought of this possibility yet. I should have though, as during this hoax we have been looking for disguises continuously  :)
I find it absolutely possible - although these are still a little too many people who MUST keep this secret. Even if they get a lot of money, there is a risk that they tell their boyfriends/girlfriends, etc after having a little wine or something. Okay, maybe nobody believes them even if they blab out something about the hoax  ;) Oh, okay I got a little better concerning this question  :lol:  Sometimes writing helps to solve problems, having new ideas  :)

But I still would like to hear your opinion about the preliminary court hearings. Did they lie under oath, or some of them don't know a thing about the hoax or...? How can this problem be solved? They must have figured out something for not causing these "witnesses" any trouble.


DancingTheDream

This is what stuck out to me:

Quote

She added: "He told me that whatever I hear about him to not believe it, that he would explain himself - and that he was sorry that I had to go through this."

Here are my thoughts:

She is speaking now because she gave evidence in the court and now she has sold her story... MONEY. I think thats the reason and i have to give her credit for waiting this long to sell her story.   Karen Faye didnt wait for the prelim, did she???

Also.. about her "lying" about Murray inviting her to London.  This could be the truth.  Murray seems to have a lot of women on the go, and it could be that he lied to her and promised a trip to London as a way of impressing her and getting her to stick around.  That, along with the flashing the cash, is classic womanising behaviour.

Also..  this stuck in my mind...  anyone remember Sam Gossen tweeting threats to Kenny Ortega?>>>   she tweeted to him "I HOPE YOU COUGH TO DEATH"


~Souza~

Quote from: "DancingTheDream"

Also..  this stuck in my mind...  anyone remember Sam Gossen tweeting threats to Kenny Ortega?>>>   she tweeted to him "I HOPE YOU COUGH TO DEATH"

I remember that and I thought it was disgusting. Are you thinking that because Kenny asked for water? Was SdG in the courtroom that day?

DancingTheDream

Quote from: "~Souza~"

Quote from: "DancingTheDream"

Also..  this stuck in my mind...  anyone remember Sam Gossen tweeting threats to Kenny Ortega?>>>   she tweeted to him "I HOPE YOU COUGH TO DEATH"

I remember that and I thought it was disgusting. Are you thinking that because Kenny asked for water? Was SdG in the courtroom that day?

I know SDG was hanging about the prelim as i saw her on one of the videos.  I dont know if she was there every day or if she went into the court.

I thought of that comment after Sade Anding said she heard "coughing and mumbling" in the background.

Probably means nothing, but it just brought to mind the threat Sam Gossen made to Kenny Ortega. x


~Souza~

Quote from: "DancingTheDream"

Quote from: "~Souza~"

Quote from: "DancingTheDream"

Also..  this stuck in my mind...  anyone remember Sam Gossen tweeting threats to Kenny Ortega?>>>   she tweeted to him "I HOPE YOU COUGH TO DEATH"

I remember that and I thought it was disgusting. Are you thinking that because Kenny asked for water? Was SdG in the courtroom that day?

I know SDG was hanging about the prelim as i saw her on one of the videos.  I dont know if she was there every day or if she went into the court.

I thought of that comment after Sade Anding said she heard "coughing and mumbling" in the background.

Probably means nothing, but it just brought to mind the threat Sam Gossen made to Kenny Ortega. x

Ah okay. I tend to think that particular 'fan'group are the ones that made his life miserable at times and therefore I find it odd that Karen seems to be best friends with them, since she claims to have been so close to MJ. Maybe Karen's role is to expose them for what they are: ignorant and dangerous stalkers. Maybe they all play a role, although I can't see why they would act like that, and maybe Karen is equally crazy. Everytime I look at her with him or see her talk about him, I get the feeling she always wanted to be more than just his make-up artist, but then again, she would be one of millions I guess. I must say I am honestly puzzled about KF, but I think we will know in time.

all4loveandbelieve

Quote from: "Liberian Girl Heehee"

Quote

all4loveandbelieve wrote: ever since Prince got sick and he was called out and Michael liked him.

She said ever since Prince got sick, I may be mistaken, but wasn`t Paris sick, and not Prince? I am not really sure. Not to believe what we hear about Conrad? He has this one right. He is not a cardiologist, nor a doctor,and does not know how to operate CPR. He got that one right :lol:

I never understood why a cardiologist would be called to treat a child who wasn't feeling well.  Why not a pediatrician?  According to a New York Times article in September 2009, "Dr. Murray met Mr. Jackson in 2006, when the singer's daughter, Paris, became ill on a trip with Mr. Jackson to Las Vegas, Ms. Sevcik said. A member of the singer's entourage knew Dr. Murray and called him in to treat her; he struck up a friendship with Mr. Jackson."

Once again...nothing about the events surrounding Michael's "death" add up.   8-)

Thank you  for posting this. I knew it, wasn't Prince who was sick it was Paris. Again wrong information. This is what I said all along why a cardiologist taking care of a young child? Pediatricians are for young children. Go figure that one out. thanks again.


I'm happy to be alive, I'm happy to be who I am.
Michael Jackson

ForstAMoon

Quote from: "Sinderella"

Quote from: "2good2btrue"

I could be wrong, but she does look so familiar....is this the same person who was at the private funeral ???  The one that hugs the mystery man (who could be Dr Murray in disguise) ??????????????????? The one who is standing up in this still
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU ... re=related
[youtube:5x2qyc68]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU7_8&feature=related[/youtube:5x2qyc68]

She is an actual actress,her name escapes me atm though
She is the one the camera fixes on while she talks to someone and says something along the lines of
"I was crying,and then he told me he was still alive,and then we all went together,we went with him to (looks like she said hayvenhurst still working on it!)"
yep, her name is Regina Hall

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