TIAI January 30

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tylerjo608

January 30, 2011, 03:13:19 PM #15 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I have a different view of Pearl Jr........and her position in this roller coaster ride of "the greatest show on earth".  Yes, she has probably used much of the investigative work that hoaxers on this forum presented and put it into a book that she is able to receive money for.  I say...."good for her". She has a means to get the truth out there through a "normal" avenue....a book that can be purchased on Amazon and others.  Most non-believers are not looking at websites or blogs for information (certainly not hoax websites), on Michael Jackson.  However, someone surfing through Amazon might have their interest peaked with this book, especially if it is not very expensive.  Non-believers will go to the "common, normal, reputable"...places for information as opposed to some blogspot with a title that might indicate "nut job" (at least in their mind).

Michael Jackson is a historical figure.  How many other historical figures (presidents, celebrities, activists...) have been written about after their death?  Many......Do we complain about books that have been written about Martin Luther King Jr. and suggest that it's wrong for the author to receive compensation for telling the story of a beautiful man with an incredible mission?  If it were not for these books, many people would not know about him and his life work.

I see the same here with Pearl Jr.  How many people may be exposed to Michael's mission and begin to understand the "truth" behind him because of her book?  What ever means there is to get "THE TRUTH" about Michael Jackson out there, I say.........YES! And as she and Twiggy continue to do spots like this one, I think more people may willing to finally go..."hmmmm maybe there is something more going on".

It wasn't that long ago that some on here were willing to give money to Eliza to help support her and her quest for "her truth". Is Pearl's Jr's. position any different?

The other thing and most important thing, I think, is that TS used her and the video as a redirect.  If she is just scamming and out for money, would TS/Michael be comfortable using her as such?  Why not then use something from Rabbi Schumley or Halperin or the host of others that really are scamming?  Pearl Jr. is helping to spread "THE TRUTH".  I would think Michael is happy about that.


~Souza~

January 30, 2011, 03:37:29 PM #16 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "tylerjo608"

I have a different view of Pearl Jr........and her position in this roller coaster ride of "the greatest show on earth".  Yes, she has probably used much of the investigative work that hoaxers on this forum presented and put it into a book that she is able to receive money for.  I say...."good for her". She has a means to get the truth out there through a "normal" avenue....a book that can be purchased on Amazon and others.  Most non-believers are not looking at websites or blogs for information (certainly not hoax websites), on Michael Jackson.  However, someone surfing through Amazon might have their interest peaked with this book, especially if it is not very expensive.  Non-believers will go to the "common, normal, reputable"...places for information as opposed to some blogspot with a title that might indicate "nut job" (at least in their mind).

Michael Jackson is a historical figure.  How many other historical figures (presidents, celebrities, activists...) have been written about after their death?  Many......Do we complain about books that have been written about Martin Luther King Jr. and suggest that it's wrong for the author to receive compensation for telling the story of a beautiful man with an incredible mission?  If it were not for these books, many people would not know about him and his life work.

I see the same here with Pearl Jr.  How many people may be exposed to Michael's mission and begin to understand the "truth" behind him because of her book?  What ever means there is to get "THE TRUTH" about Michael Jackson out there, I say.........YES! And as she and Twiggy continue to do spots like this one, I think more people may willing to finally go..."hmmmm maybe there is something more going on".

It wasn't that long ago that some on here were willing to give money to Eliza to help support her and her quest for "her truth". Is Pearl's Jr's. position any different?

The other thing and most important thing, I think, is that TS used her and the video as a redirect.  If she is just scamming and out for money, would TS/Michael be comfortable using her as such?  Why not then use something from Rabbi Schumley or Halperin or the host of others that really are scamming?  Pearl Jr. is helping to spread "THE TRUTH".  I would think Michael is happy about that.

Just to be clear, I don't care what Pearl does or how much money she makes out of this, that is her own choice, it would never be mine. I have said from the start that I will not make any money out of this and I still stand by that, even though I could fill this site with ads and earn some nice $$ on the side. There are a few reasons why I won't, one of them being that this forum is full of theories that are not mine and therefore I would make money out of your investigation, and also simply because it goes against everything I stand for. There have been too many leeches trying to make money out of him, please let at least me be someone who won't. It simply doesn't feel right.

All I am saying is she lost her credibility for me and I don't think many non-believers will buy the book. With non-believers I mean the fans that scream that Murray and Kenny are murderers. They closed their eyes for the truth and they will never spend any money about something they are against so much. Information that is free on the web is easier for them to read when they accidentally bump into it. They aren't buying albums and DVD's because they scream that people are only making money out of his death, so why would they buy a book about a hoax they say is disrespectful to MJ? They are slandering us. The non-fans won't buy the book simply because they don't look for it and aren't interested. The non-believers already know about the hoax and they reject it passionately. It's the non-fans (and with that I mean people like me, who like his music but never really paid attention to the man behind it) that should be made aware of all this. I think that's a big group and that is the group that is the hardest to reach because they don't search for news on MJ.


paula-c

January 30, 2011, 03:50:45 PM #17 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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Im_convincedmjalive wrote:

We were there waiting for Michael at the rehearsal.
The night before he had said, "I'll see you tomorrow,
and I love you all."

He was very happy. We were rehearsing a big moment of the show that Michael was really excited about: an illusion we had designed together with one of David Copperfield's illusion builders.

It was a big day for us. We had two incredible rehearsals the night before where Michael had stepped it up. There was a whole new energy in the room.

"The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out
over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

He was really looking forward to it. The night before,
he had said to me he was very happy.

I believe that this is what more we called the attention, and i do not perceive as a man feeble, sick or addicted quite the opposite


Serenitys_Dream

January 30, 2011, 03:51:29 PM #18 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"

A couple of questions for clarification:

1. How was David Copperfield working for MJ as of June 24, 2009 if reports are from March 2009 that AEG did not hire him? http://www.musictoob.com/michael-jackso ... hows-9233; http://dalje.com/en-bestseller/michael- ... how/256690

Michael Jackson Comeback 'Loses Magic Man David Copperfield'
By Jason Gregory On May 8, 2009

Michael Jackson has decided against hiring magician David Copperfield for his comeback shows in London this summer, it's been reported.

The singer had planned on using David to bring some extra magic to the gigs but was apparently put off by the magician's fee. According to a report in the Sun newspaper, the magician was demanding £1million per show. "He was so excited about working with David but fell out with him over the money he wanted," a source said. "Michael told David he would be wasting his time with the London residency if he was splashing out so much on just one person. So he told him the deal was off."

Michael is believed to have hired Las Vegas magician and star of TV show Mindfreak, Crissangel, as a replacement for David. The source described the magician as a "superb entertainer", adding that Michael was "delighted to have in on board".

The King of Pop's 50 shows begin at the O2 Arena on July 8 and run until next February.
http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/48357/michael-jackson-comeback-loses-magic-man-david-copperfield


suspicious mind

January 30, 2011, 04:10:08 PM #19 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

did i hear right. did they mention kenny was the person who said their throat was dry and asked for water?
what would make that worthy of mention?

"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

~Souza~

January 30, 2011, 04:37:50 PM #20 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "suspicious mind"

did i hear right. did they mention kenny was the person who said their throat was dry and asked for water?
what would make that worthy of mention?

I heard the same, no clue what to make of it.


mumof3

January 30, 2011, 05:00:31 PM #21 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Off topic a bit pearl does continually advertise her book andshe did make the big thing about the door but one thing iwill never understand is how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it  this is confusing


ForstAMoon

January 30, 2011, 05:04:35 PM #22 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "mumof3"

Off topic a bit pearl does continually advertise her book andshe did make the big thing about the door but one thing iwill never understand is how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it  this is confusing

Oh, this is very good question!

And if I recall correctly, Pearl has not been a believer from the very beginning. I think I saw some video with her or heard some radio interview, when she was like: what? what clues? what hoax?


chloead505

January 30, 2011, 06:04:19 PM #23 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"

Quote from: "mumof3"

Off topic a bit pearl does continually advertise her book andshe did make the big thing about the door but one thing iwill never understand is how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it  this is confusing

Oh, this is very good question!

And if I recall correctly, Pearl has not been a believer from the very beginning. I think I saw some video with her or heard some radio interview, when she was like: what? what clues? what hoax?

Great point! The Jacksons act deaf n blind when it comes to the hoax. Convenient!

PureLove

January 30, 2011, 06:49:27 PM #24 Last Edit: January 30, 2011, 07:02:20 PM by PureLove
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The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana'
he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

I found this part very important as well. It summarizes the hoax. The hoax is an illusion, Michael disappeared ("died") suddenly but he is going to rise up (Resurrect), and appear (BAM) suddenly. And the audience is us, his Army of LOVE; we will begin to Beat IT (NWO/ Killuminati) with his command!
Quote from: "mumof3"

how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it  this is confusing

This is another very important sign that the Jacksons are all very aware of what's going on. They never said anything about Pearl's book or they never said any anti hoax thing when Teddy Riley was talking about the hoax. Even when Taj and Teddy were fighting on Twitter, Taj only accused him about the fake songs but never wrote anything about Teddy's "belief" about Michael being alive. It is so open and clear that the Jacksons KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON and they knew if they talked anti-hoax that would hurt believers and cause losing our hope, so they prefer to say nothing about it.

RunFaYaLife

January 30, 2011, 06:57:09 PM #25 Last Edit: January 30, 2011, 07:10:12 PM by RunFaYaLife
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Besides that, she lost her credibility when she went after that YouTube fake and showed everyone a fake wooden door and made an elephant out of a mosquito over it.

Thank you
Souza

I've been thinking about that particular Vid a lot lately....I did read or watch on the tube Pearl's take on it...wasn't it her theory that could not be him because it was not at his condo...or something like that...WHY would he even BE in the country?
If I am mistaken you will have to forgive me...as the rest of you I've seen a LOT of Vid's and read a ton on the MJ subject.

Back to that particular Vid....JMO.
Personally I am not so sure it is fake.
My thoughts on it are it could be MJ in rehab.
I know for a fact that withdrawal from long term Benzo's can and does.....
cause you to have seizures and that guy in that video looks like he is trying to
dance but is having trouble doing so.


~Souza~

January 30, 2011, 07:05:39 PM #26 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"

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Besides that, she lost her credibility when she went after that YouTube fake and showed everyone a fake wooden door and made an elephant out of a mosquito over it.

Thank you
Souza

I've been thinking about that particular Vid a lot lately....I did read or watch on the tube Pear's take on it...wasn't it her theory that could not be him because it was not at his condo...or something like that...WHY would he even BE in the country?
If I am mistaken you will have to forgive me...as the rest of you I've seen a LOT of Vid's and read a ton on the MJ subject.

Back to that particular Vid....JMO.
Personally I am not so sure it is fake.
My thoughts on it are it could be MJ in rehab.
I know for a fact that withdrawal from ling term Benzo's can and does.....
cause you to have seizures and that guy in that vidio looks like he is trying to
dance but is having trouble doing so.

That was not MJ and I really don't think he could have pulled this all off while being addicted to any kind of drugs. He is NOT a druggie. He hates it and has made that known many many times. Medications for illnesses and treatments for whatever? Yes. Drugs just to be out of it or to sleep? No, I don't believe that for a second. Never have, never will. I must say that I was surprised to hear on June 25 that he might had died because of a drug overdose, because as far as I knew he didn't do drugs. I think they drugged him enough back in the days against his will, to make him hate everything about it.


RunFaYaLife

January 30, 2011, 07:27:35 PM #27 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Wow That was quick...hahahah

Okay this is JMO once again.

I think he did take some zanax or a form of benzo's because he suffered from
anxiety problems....which would not be an abnormal thing to do considering his life and what went on from a very young age.

However, they are verra addicting and I can understand him taking more than prescribed because of the tolerance buildup and he was in SO MANY situations like that it  can be overwhelming.
If you have ever had an anxiety or panic attack...you would know what I mean.
It is the scariest most frustrating thing in the world.

You can tell from observing him some vid's which involve
crowds...especially the paparazzi.....and fans when he is trying to shop.

I watched one one night of him that made ME anxiec just watching it! I went laterally in his place and shaking like it was me.

He was in a book store and it was a small one he finally went and tried to hide from all of the fans and the paparazzi behind a shelf of books and you could see him talking on a  cell phone and he was shaking.
while his security was trying to get rid of the crowd and get him out of there.

This would be nothing to be ashamed of millions of people suffer from this world wide...more than ever in these trying times.

Hell I would have to be on something like that just to LIVE his life. I put a Vid on here somewhere the other night titled beat boxing that shows just a few of the times he was sued in court. UUhhhhhh. Poor Guy!

As far all of the other drugs they found at his house....not sure so I am buying  into that.


~Souza~

January 30, 2011, 07:37:13 PM #28 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"

Wow That was quick...hahahah

Okay this is JMO once again.

I think he did take some zanax or a form of benzo's because he suffered from
anxiety problems....which would not be an abnormal thing to do considering his life and what went on from a very young age.

However, they are verra addicting and I can understand him taking more than prescribed because of the tolerance buildup and he was in SO MANY situations like that it  can be overwhelming.
If you have ever had an anxiety or panic attack...you would know what I mean.
It is the scariest most frustrating thing in the world.

You can tell from observing him some vid's which involve
crowds...especially the paparazzi.....and fans when he is trying to shop.

I watched one one night of him that made ME anxiec just watching it! I went laterally in his place and shaking like it was me.

He was in a book store and it was a small one he finally went and tried to hide from all of the fans and the paparazzi behind a shelf of books and you could see him talking on a  cell phone and he was shaking.
while his security was trying to get rid of the crowd and get him out of there.

This would be nothing to be ashamed of millions of people suffer from this world wide...more than ever in these trying times.

Hell I would have to be on something like that just to LIVE his life. I put a Vid on here somewhere the other night titled beat boxing that shows just a few of the times he was sued in court. UUhhhhhh. Poor Guy!

As far all of the other drugs they found at his house....not sure so I am buying  into that.

Again, I do not think he could have pulled this off and be a druggie at once. Taking meds for treatment (like I said) is different from being a drug addict. Anyone pulling off something like this is in total control. That is my opinion. And I never said anyone should be ashamed for taking anti-anxiety medication because I really can understand that. But you were claiming MJ was in some kind of rehab house near the street to get rid of his drug addiction, letting people film him while he was having withdrawel signs. That and someone being in total control of his hoax do not match in my world, sorry.

RunFaYaLife

January 30, 2011, 07:39:39 PM #29 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Okay if that was him...how do we know for a fact that he knew he was being filmed?

Another thing to consider is this...perhaps he did not plan a hoax...someone who cared about him did.


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