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January 29, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
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Re: TIAI January 30th
January 29, 2011, 11:23:03 PM
Friday, January 14, 2011
TWIGGY AND PEARL JR. "THE ILLUSION" TALK OF PRELIM TRIAL OUTSIDE COURTS

[youtube:2y1jtyqp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NBuccjl05o[/youtube:2y1jtyqp]

We were there waiting for Michael at the rehearsal.
The night before he had said, "I'll see you tomorrow,
and I love you all."

He was very happy. We were rehearsing a big moment of the show that Michael was really excited about: an illusion we had designed together with one of David Copperfield's illusion builders.

It was a big day for us. We had two incredible rehearsals the night before where Michael had stepped it up. There was a whole new energy in the room.

"The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes
went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the
other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out
over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

He was really looking forward to it. The night before,
he had said to me he was very happy.

He saw the dream coming to light on the stage.
The only thing he wanted me to say to anybody creatively,
dancers, creative team was, 'I love them.

Everybody’s doing a great job.
I love you, Kenny. I’ll see you tomorrow. Thank you.'"

"He left, and we were invigorated. We came back that next
day and we were all up on the stage really excited working
with our illusion makers, working with our technicians.
We had our aerialist, Danielle, on the stage and Tony Testa
- one of our associate choreographers - was standing in for Michael.
It was just like we were getting everything ready for him to walk
in and step into what was going to be one of his favorite days
because he loved illusion.

When we discovered that, in fact, everything stopped."

JUNE 25th 2009 THE ILLUSION BEGAN THIS IS IT !!!
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Re: TIAI January 30th
January 29, 2011, 11:24:39 PM
I think Pearl Jr is in this because she is looking for a way to make some money.
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Re: TIAI January 30th
January 30, 2011, 03:34:33 AM
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
I think Pearl Jr is in this because she is looking for a way to make some money.

Ya mean like a paycheck?
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Re: TIAI January 30th
January 30, 2011, 04:48:34 AM
Ya mon and profits off the book she hawks on her website. :mrgreen:
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Re: TIAI January 30th
January 30, 2011, 08:30:07 AM
Among all the people who have profitted off Michael since his death (Rabbi S., Tatiana, Theresa Gonzales, J Randy Tarraborrelli and his five new editions- just kidding, only two-...etc) , I think Pearl is among the most innocent ones.  Plus, really, I have to give her credit, as, after month of not listening to my instincts, and telling myself that Michael HAS to be dead, I gave in, and read her book.  My argument was- well, lets see what the beLievers believe, and at that point, I had not found this site.  So, I downloaded her ebook on my ipad.  And it went from there...  
Pearl is known for her activist status and she made a documentary about the trial before that NO ONE wanted to publish (as it was pro-Michael)- and this was before his death.  So, really, credit her with spreading the message that Michael is alive (either because that is what she wants to do, or because she was asked to- either way..). Also, Pearl actually emails you back when you email her- which is SO nice!

So, back to the redirect: Thank you, TS, for reminding us of the illusion.  I keep thinking there must be more to it (there always seems to be), so I will put my thinking cap on, have another cup of coffee, and see what stands out.
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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 09:02:44 AM
The problem I have with Pearl is that she is making money with a book that she (let's be honest) just put together from theories of other hoaxers. If she was hired to make people believe that this was all a hoax, why ask money? We all publish our thoughts as well for anyone to read and none of us is asking a dime, which makes it easier for people to read because I don't think everyone is willing to pay for it. If I would let people pay to register and read the information on this forum, it would be the same because I would make money out of your theories and investigations. Besides that, she lost her credibility when she went after that YouTube fake and showed everyone a fake wooden door and made an elephant out of a mosquito over it.

Kenny is a key player in this, I'm sure of it and it's a shame we don't hear as much from him anymore. I remember people attacking and threatening him on Twitter, which was shameful. I am sure Mike trusted him fully after all those years. Kenny also says so on the extras of the blu ray disc.

June 25, the illusion starts. "We are all here because of him. May that continue, with him leading the way."
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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
The problem I have with Pearl is that she is making money with a book that she (let's be honest) just put together from theories of other hoaxers. If she was hired to make people believe that this was all a hoax, why ask money? We all publish our thoughts as well for anyone to read and none of us is asking a dime, which makes it easier for people to read because I don't think everyone is willing to pay for it. If I would let people pay to register and read the information on this forum, it would be the same because I would make money out of your theories and investigations. Besides that, she lost her credibility when she went after that YouTube fake and showed everyone a fake wooden door and made an elephant out of a mosquito over it.

Kenny is a key player in this, I'm sure of it and it's a shame we don't hear as much from him anymore. I remember people attacking and threatening him on Twitter, which was shameful. I am sure Mike trusted him fully after all those years. Kenny also says so on the extras of the blu ray disc.

June 25, the illusion starts. "We are all here because of him. May that continue, with him leading the way."
Re Pearl: The sad fact is that many people do not just wander onto blogs or hoax forums until their interest gets peaked.  It is much more likely they are Michael Jackson fans, and search for material about him on Amazon or any other book source- and then find her book.  Actually, her book was pretty inexpensive. I know of her- so I knew she would be a somewhat intelligent source to at least see what she had to say.  If the goal is to spread the word and to raise awareness, then is the fact that she makes money really so big?  TII (and everyone attached to it)  made money.  Kenny Ortega made money (I am sure more than he has in years).  There are lots of people making money- and like I said, many with much more nefarious and selfish motives, I think (Rabbi S is about to release book Nr 2).
You are correct- her book is a compilation of facts- and she never claims facts as hers.  She gives credit every time.  Another sad fact in the world of publicizing: People are suspicious of things that come free.  If you attach a price tag- people will think it’s worth something.  We see this over and over.  Look at Twiggy- she tries to spread the word through her fee blog.  People discount her “as a nut”- Pearl is a known activist- so people tend to listen to her.  Not saying this is right, just saying that this is how it is.    
Unless the situation is pretty clear I try not to judge anyone’s motives at this point.  Heck, there was a time, I wanted Murray to fry in hell for “murdering” Michael.  And I also had less than love for Kenny, as his manner on TII just REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.  Now, from a different perspective, it all makes sense.  The last 19 months taught me so much about myself- including to not judge prematurely.  I never try to do that anyway as it can be disastrous in my work, but being human, and feeling passionate about something, it is difficult to avoid.
I agree, what happened to Kenny, and also to Teddy has been crazy.  Talk about people judging others! I am sure there will be more from him to come.  I might go back and watch TII today to see if anything new Kenny related stands out.  It’s funny, I have seen it so many times, and yet, at times, new things just jump out at me.
So, I ran Jan 30th in History, and didn’t come up with anything interesting (well, many interesting things, but nothing that stuck out, Illusion wise).  I also ran some numbers and nothing standing out yet.  I noticed the blog was not published until January 14, but the video was obviously shot the day Kenny testified, which was earlier, wasn’t it?
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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 12:15:50 PM
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We were there waiting for Michael at the rehearsal.
The night before he had said, "I'll see you tomorrow,
and I love you all."

He was very happy. We were rehearsing a big moment of the show that Michael was really excited about: an illusion we had designed together with one of David Copperfield's illusion builders.

It was a big day for us. We had two incredible rehearsals the night before where Michael had stepped it up. There was a whole new energy in the room.

"The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker
and out
over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

He was really looking forward to it. The night before,
he had said to me he was very happy.

He saw the dream coming to light on the stage.
The only thing he wanted me to say to anybody creatively,
dancers, creative team was, 'I love them.

"Everybody’s doing a great job.
I love you, Kenny. I’ll see you tomorrow. Thank you."

Oh yes Thank you Michael for the best damn illusion I have ever been involved in. I was fooled from June 25th 2009 to Feb. 9, 2010 when I signed up here on this death hoax forum. This illusion is way more fun on this side.

Regarding Pearl Jr. I agree with Souza. Pearl is only using all the hoax evidence other hoaxers found and put on the internet. The hoaxers do not charge money to play in this game with Michael. Pearl Jr. is charging money=PROFIT off Michael's dead body and other people's investigative work, and she is NOT crediting the people at all.

She acts like this was all her big secret REVELATION. Her past record of 2005 with Michael is over. I saw a video of her and she said Michael Jackson is a full time job.

Excuse me? lmao... she tries to justify making money off the ebook by saying Michael made money and she got to eat. She also states the family knows about her ebook, they don't shut her down, and they secretly nod to her. I agree she is needed for the hoax, she can get the message out there faster because she does have the connections. I just don't like her making money.

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by ~Souza~ » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:02 am

The problem I have with Pearl is that she is making money with a book that she (let's be honest) just put together from theories of other hoaxers. If she was hired to make people believe that this was all a hoax, why ask money? We all publish our thoughts as well for anyone to read and none of us is asking a dime, which makes it easier for people to read because I don't think everyone is willing to pay for it. If I would let people pay to register and read the information on this forum, it would be the same because I would make money out of your theories and investigations. Besides that, she lost her credibility when she went after that YouTube fake and showed everyone a fake wooden door and made an elephant out of a mosquito over it.

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by Elsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:34 am
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RunFaYaLife wrote:
I think Pearl Jr is in this because she is looking for a way to make some money.

Ya mean like a paycheck?

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by RunFaYaLife » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:48 am

Ya mon and profits off the book she hawks on her website.  :mrgreen:

lmao...I agree with the above quotes!

Hi TS. Thanks for this entertaining piece of info.

Peace
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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 02:21:07 PM
I personally didn't buy her book just because I didn't want to spend the money, but I guess I don't have a problem with her doing that if that's what she wants to do. There's all kinds of people involved in this hoax. I know she took material from SD and that may have happened with others as well. So just throw her in the controversial pile along with so many that seem to have nefarious purposes. Pearl does seem to be speaking at various events for Michael and getting the word out. So TS used this video of her to remind us of the grand disappearing illusion on June 25. I've learned also over these 19 months not to judge anyone too harshly, just because I don't know the whole story yet. The David Copperfield's illusion buiders reminds me of Unbreakable rap part. It is discussed a little on this MJ site. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Uh, uh, what, uh
I'm a lime to a lemon, my CeCe women
Bringin in ten G minimums to condos with elevators in 'em
Vehicles with televisions in 'em
Watch they entourage turn yours to just mirages
Disappearing acts, strictly nines and macs
Killers be serial, Copperfield material
My dreams is vivid, work hard to live it
Any place I visit, I got land there
How can players stand there and say I sound like them
HELLO?!
Push wigs back and push six Coupes that's yellow
Plus clips that expand from hand to elbow
Spray up your Day's Inn, any 'telle you in
Crack braggin sick of braggin how my mink be draggin
Desert ease street sweeper inside the beamer wagon
I rely on Bed-Stuy to shut it down if I die
Put that on my diamond bezel, you're messin with the devil
WHAT!!
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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 02:24:14 PM
this is probably off topic but isn't geraldeen hughes also usually somewhat involved with the jacksons. as i understand she is quite upset at having been told by someone , one of the brothers i think that they didn't want her reporting on the preliminary hearings. anyone have any info or insite into that? how is she different than pearl jr. in all of this? not being argumentative just wondering if anyone has more details to the difference between the two as far as the jacksons go.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 02:39:38 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
this is probably off topic but isn't geraldeen hughes also usually somewhat involved with the jacksons. as i understand she is quite upset at having been told by someone , one of the brothers i think that they didn't want her reporting on the preliminary hearings. anyone have any info or insite into that? how is she different than pearl jr. in all of this? not being argumentative just wondering if anyone has more details to the difference between the two as far as the jacksons go.
You know what the confusing part is here? Many fans claim to know the Jacksons, or Mike himself while most of them were his worst nightmare, making his life miserable by stalking him. So who is genuine and does things with HIM in mind every step, and who is only thinking about him/herself?
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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 02:55:25 PM
What stands out for me is that part (don't know why):

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"The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes
went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the
other side of the stage rising up
on the cherry picker and out
over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

 :?:
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 03:04:22 PM
A couple of questions for clarification:

1. How was David Copperfield working for MJ as of June 24, 2009 if reports are from March 2009 that AEG did not hire him? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

2. Why do you think TS is reminding us again about an illusion on the 25th?  Don't we know that already? I'm curious about the redirect to twiggy's site vs. a redirect on this forum given that Kenny's comment during the prelim about the illusion were discussed thoroughly here.  Is the reminder meant for something more to see than just a mere confirmation from Kenny while on the witness stand?  I know that sometimes we should just take things at face value -- not everything is a mystery - and  I do not mean to be rhetorical.  I am truly unclear about the real purpose of this redirect.
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Re: TIAI January 30
January 30, 2011, 03:10:10 PM
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"
A couple of questions for clarification:

1. How was David Copperfield working for MJ as of June 24, 2009 if reports are from March 2009 that AEG did not hire him? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

2. Why do you think TS is reminding us again about an illusion on the 25th?  Don't we know that already? I'm curious about the redirect to twiggy's site vs. a redirect on this forum given that Kenny's comment during the prelim about the illusion were discussed thoroughly here.  Is the reminder meant for something more to see than just a mere confirmation from Kenny while on the witness stand?  I know that sometimes we should just take things at face value -- not everything is a mystery - and  I do not mean to be rhetorical.  I am truly unclear about the real purpose of this redirect.

you know aside from the fact that these two kind of gave me the creeps in this thing ( actually didn't watch it all because of it) i was wondering if maybe i should be paying attention to what was going on the background instead.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

 

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