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Quote from: "Gema"Quote from: "Grace"OK, I never was interested in Oprah and I am not going to be, I'm afraid, but let me please sort this out:And doesn't that sound somewhat like Michael Joseph dying of drug overdose and Michael Joe coming back to life as the hidden half-brother I had the same thought, but with the brother "Brandon". May be Brandon did not die on the 1st place.And why would the Jackson family hide any twin, of any of their children, from birth?Why would they lie about the death of Brandon?What would that have accomplished?When the children were being born, the family was poor and they didn't know that they would eventually be as famous as they became.I am sorry but for me, this doesn't make any sense at all.
Quote from: "Grace"OK, I never was interested in Oprah and I am not going to be, I'm afraid, but let me please sort this out:And doesn't that sound somewhat like Michael Joseph dying of drug overdose and Michael Joe coming back to life as the hidden half-brother I had the same thought, but with the brother "Brandon". May be Brandon did not die on the 1st place.
OK, I never was interested in Oprah and I am not going to be, I'm afraid, but let me please sort this out:And doesn't that sound somewhat like Michael Joseph dying of drug overdose and Michael Joe coming back to life as the hidden half-brother
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "Gema"Quote from: "Grace"OK, I never was interested in Oprah and I am not going to be, I'm afraid, but let me please sort this out:And doesn't that sound somewhat like Michael Joseph dying of drug overdose and Michael Joe coming back to life as the hidden half-brother I had the same thought, but with the brother "Brandon". May be Brandon did not die on the 1st place.And why would the Jackson family hide any twin, of any of their children, from birth?Why would they lie about the death of Brandon?What would that have accomplished?When the children were being born, the family was poor and they didn't know that they would eventually be as famous as they became.I am sorry but for me, this doesn't make any sense at all.Why would O's mom hide it? It's something we don't know because we simply don't know the Jacksons. Not saying that Brandon never died, just pointing out that by now we should know that there is no use that 'they would never do that' or 'that doesn't make sense'. IF Brandon was still alive, I assume there is a reason they hid that. And if I am honest, their reason would be their reason and none of my business.
Everybody’s got some skeletons in the closet. Why is this such a big deal to her? She’s not God for heaven’s sake. :roll:
Marlon and Brandon would be the 6th & 7th children out of 10.Michael was born after Marlon and then there was Randy and Janet.Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, these are facts. It simply doesn't make any sense that the entire Jackson family would have hidden a twin away since birth or lied about Brandon's passing. There has been no evidence posted that there is anything factual as the basis to this "theory". Nor have those proposing this theory, ever provided any credible reasons as to why the family would have hidden a twin or lied about Brandon's death. Without substantiating evidence, this theory has no support, no basis in fact, nothing to stand on.If a theory can not stand up to scrutiny than that theory must be revised. If a theory has no factual basis, than it is a factual error. If the theory is based on an error of reasoning, than it is a fallacy. Either way, it is not supported and therefore must be either revised or discarded.An argument consists of one or more premises and one conclusion. A premise is a statement (a sentence that is either true or false) that is offered in support of the claim being made, which is the conclusion (which is also a sentence that is either true or false).There are two main types of arguments: deductive and inductive. A deductive argument is an argument such that the premises provide (or appear to provide) complete support for the conclusion. An inductive argument is an argument such that the premises provide (or appear to provide) some degree of support (but less than complete support) for the conclusion. If the premises actually provide the required degree of support for the conclusion, then the argument is a good one. A good deductive argument is known as a valid argument and is such that if all its premises are true, then its conclusion must be true. If all the argument is valid and actually has all true premises, then it is known as a sound argument. If it is invalid or has one or more false premises, it will be unsound. A good inductive argument is known as a strong (or "cogent") inductive argument. It is such that if the premises are true, the conclusion is likely to be true.A fallacy is, very generally, an error in reasoning. This differs from a factual error, which is simply being wrong about the facts. To be more specific, a fallacy is an "argument" in which the premises given for the conclusion do not provide the needed degree of support. A deductive fallacy is a deductive argument that is invalid (it is such that it could have all true premises and still have a false conclusion). An inductive fallacy is less formal than a deductive fallacy. They are simply "arguments" which appear to be inductive arguments, but the premises do not provided enough support for the conclusion. In such cases, even if the premises were true, the conclusion would not be more likely to be true.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
i am not saying there was a twin but i am not saying there wasn`t either. I think this is a perfect example of things that go on that people manage to keep hidden for years if they want to badly enough. There could be many reasons for the hiding - maybe one was so shy he could never dance and sing but maybe he could draw and write poetry and songs. or ...Maybe due to child labour laws, the Jackson`s needed an extra kid to be able to pull off all the performance`s they did....or it could be anything else...and I agree with Souza it`s not my business. But it could happen...hidden in plain site....no one was ever looking for it so it didn`t come up and it was never spoken about and it could explain many things like why the family was so private, didn`t have that many friends growing up, etc. etc.I don`t think we could say for certain there wasn`t
I know you are always jumping into your defence suit whenever I reply to one of your posts which often make me hesitate to reply at all, hell knows why, but maybe you need to take some things a little less serious every single time and read what I write, or ask what I mean next time because I always get the feeling I have to explain myself to you.[/color]
Quote from: "~Souza~"I know you are always jumping into your defence suit whenever I reply to one of your posts which often make me hesitate to reply at all, hell knows why, but maybe you need to take some things a little less serious every single time and read what I write, or ask what I mean next time because I always get the feeling I have to explain myself to you.[/color]I am answering your posts that commented on my post and nothing more. Stop suggesting I am "defensive", it is annoying and not correct. If you are unable to discuss anything with me without making it personal and/or you don't expect me to respond then refrain from starting a discussion with me. This solves both your misinterpretations of my emotional state and me having to explain myself to you repeatedly that I am not. If you comment on something I say, than there is an expectation that I may possibly reply, if you interpret that as being defensive, that is your issue and not mine. Such remarks are often made in an effort to invalidate another person's opinion, ideas, remarks, comments or are generally a misunderstanding, made by the reader, about what has been written. I am not trying to argue with you or anyone else, I see things differently on the whole twin/doubles theory and no evidence has been provided to change my mind. If there is irrefutable evidence that supports such claims than I will accept that but so far, that isn't and hasn't been the case.
It's something we don't know because we simply don't know the Jacksons
if I am honest, their reason would be their reason and none of my business.
Marlon and Brandon would be the 6th & 7th children out of 10.Michael was born after Marlon and then there was Randy and Janet.Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, these are facts
It simply doesn't make any sense that the entire Jackson family would have hidden a twin away since birth or lied about Brandon's passing.
There has been no evidence posted that there is anything factual as the basis to this "theory". Nor have those proposing this theory, ever provided any credible reasons as to why the family would have hidden a twin or lied about Brandon's death. Without substantiating evidence, this theory has no support, no basis in fact, nothing to stand on.
If a theory can not stand up to scrutiny than that theory must be revised. If a theory has no factual basis, than it is a factual error. If the theory is based on an error of reasoning, than it is a fallacy. Either way, it is not supported and therefore must be either revised or discarded.
An argument consists of one or more premises and one conclusion. A premise is a statement (a sentence that is either true or false) that is offered in support of the claim being made, which is the conclusion (which is also a sentence that is either true or false).There are two main types of arguments
A fallacy
i am not saying there was a twin but i am not saying there wasn`t either. I think this is a perfect example of things that go on that people manage to keep hidden for years if they want to badly enough
My point is that there are no valid arguments or proof against it as well. No one has birth certificates, no one was there when the twins were born, and this whole death of MJ is a lie, so who says other things are not? My point is that we simply do not know and therefore can not debunk that theory, nor confirm it.
People have been known to shelter family members with disabilities from public scrutiny. They can be very protective of those members. I'm not saying this is so, I'm just saying there may be justification if indeed Brandon did not die as we were led to believe and I would understand that.