TMZ one big hoax?

[TheRunningGirl]

TMZ as a TV show maybe!  

TMZ has shown at least 4 articles with references to GHOSTS recently and the video below (Esprit467) does an excellent job in "connecting" those articles to Michael and the hoax.

[youtube:18rlxhfu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAscTcJcx10[/youtube:18rlxhfu]

With L.O.V.E

[Andrea]

Ya RunningGirl, I totally noticed all the "ghost" stories and thought of MJ right away.  What I'm curious about is why are they making subtle references to the hoax and yet not reporting about any of the court stuff the last couple days - jury selection, who must testify, etc.  They should be all over that. Now that I think about it, I think there will be an MJ day soon on TMZ, they tend to save up and run a lot of his articles together...

[Sinderella]

Personally,I think TMZ's role partly has been to over saturate the internet,social networking sites,other media sources with info on Murray's trial so that -as we are seeing now- it is impossible to find a Jury to sit in on it.
They have dismissed over 200 juror applications because they showed they knew too much about the trial already,about Michael,Murray,and the whole thing really.
There will be no one sitting there who is with a fresh and non bias mind,making judgements based completley on what's being said in court,not what they already know/have heard from people like TMZ/on twitter etc.
And it doesn't matter what age group they target either,more and more people have profiles on twitter and facebook so really...they are doomed to find anyone who knows nothing.

Can't have a trial with no jury...
Totally Brilliant.

[GINAFELICIA]

OK I have something to say about TMZ.
I never heard of them before Michael's death.
So I didn't know who they were, as celebrity gossip never was my concern.

I thought that they made fun of Michael, even if he was officially dead, because they were in the hoax and I saw that "fun" as another clue.

But now I see they make fun of anyone, alive or dead.

So, even if I enjoy their sense of humor, I have some doubts about TMZ.
But I like Harvey anyway.

[Kristina4LOVE]

Look at what Jermain Jackson tweeted regarding TMZ!
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[TouchedByAnAngel]

Not sure why I feel it is relevant to MJ but more TMZ and Charlie Sheen observations...

TMZ currently has a story where Charlie Sheen references and compares himself to Errol Flynn.

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What I found interesting when I looked up Errol Flynn is that he apparently died of a heart attack at the age of 50 and he is interred at Forest Lawn Memorial Park Cemetery, in Glendale, California.

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Flynn's most celebrated role was in The Adventures of Robin Hood. At a quick glance I saw a couple things related to Robin Hood that I found relevant but I'm off to do a bit more reading on this subject.
OAN...Why do I feel like I've read this before? I'm either going in circles or having some serious deja vu.
ETA: I HAVE read this before in relation to the "Green Man"... I've read so much mess I can't keep track any more. lol

Hi everyone   Here are some videos I recently saw that connect Errol Flynn to Michael and his hoax

[youtube:2vrif0yj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp6A9TcaBUE[/youtube:2vrif0yj]

This person uploading these videos is called themichealproject20 and has been talking about the movie Godspell and how it relates to Michael. In parts 3 & 4 this person shows how Errol Flynn is connected. Underneath the above video it says this:

The continuation of Michael's connection and influence of this classic film. Also a revelation of why you are definitely witnessing a hoax and how legendary swashbuckler Errol Flynn plays a major role in it.

[youtube:2vrif0yj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mORvih7dWDw&feature=related[/youtube:2vrif0yj]


I know there is a thread here about the Godspell movie, perhaps this was already mentioned there? Anyway, food for thought.

Love & Light
Carol aka Touched By An Angel aka TouchedByAngelM on Twitter

[GINAFELICIA]

Look at what Jermain Jackson tweeted regarding TMZ!
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I don't know...what do you make of it  :? ?

[TheRunningGirl]

Not sure why I feel it is relevant to MJ but more TMZ and Charlie Sheen observations...

TMZ currently has a story where Charlie Sheen references and compares himself to Errol Flynn.

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What I found interesting when I looked up Errol Flynn is that he apparently died of a heart attack at the age of 50 and he is interred at Forest Lawn Memorial Park Cemetery, in Glendale, California.

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Flynn's most celebrated role was in The Adventures of Robin Hood. At a quick glance I saw a couple things related to Robin Hood that I found relevant but I'm off to do a bit more reading on this subject.
OAN...Why do I feel like I've read this before? I'm either going in circles or having some serious deja vu.
ETA: I HAVE read this before in relation to the "Green Man"... I've read so much mess I can't keep track any more. lol

Hi everyone   Here are some videos I recently saw that connect Errol Flynn to Michael and his hoax

[youtube:2xombwpg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp6A9TcaBUE[/youtube:2xombwpg]

This person uploading these videos is called themichealproject20 and has been talking about the movie Godspell and how it relates to Michael. In parts 3 & 4 this person shows how Errol Flynn is connected. Underneath the above video it says this:

The continuation of Michael's connection and influence of this classic film. Also a revelation of why you are definitely witnessing a hoax and how legendary swashbuckler Errol Flynn plays a major role in it.

[youtube:2xombwpg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mORvih7dWDw&feature=related[/youtube:2xombwpg]


I know there is a thread here about the Godspell movie, perhaps this was already mentioned there? Anyway, food for thought.

Love & Light
Carol aka Touched By An Angel aka TouchedByAngelM on Twitter

Yes! You are RIGHT TouchedByAnAngel, I think that Errol Flynn is a sure influence on Michael's Hoax.

Here is a link to the Errol Flynn thread "TMP - Michael and the Movies":
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Also More Errol Flynn Parallels in this thread "TMP - Michael and the Movies- Godspell" (As referred to above by TouchedByAnAngel):
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It is also said that Errol Flynn may have faked his death!  

With L.O.V.E

[GINAFELICIA]

I just did a little reading through TMZ MJ stories before June 25th.
They made big (good) fun of Michael, picturing him as weird, making fun of his plastic surgeries, childish behaviour not fit for his age and so on.....

I just want to ask - how does this fit with TMZ in the hoax?

[GINAFELICIA]

I just accesed this forum from TMZ site. We all know they are following this site so what if they are just believers and nothing more?

Maybe all the clues we see in their posts are only normal reactions from people who don't believe Michael died?

[~Souza~]

I just accesed this forum from TMZ site. We all know they are following this site so what if they are just believers and nothing more?

Maybe all the clues we see in their posts are only normal reactions from people who don't believe Michael died?

Just one question: How did they publish the article that he died 6 minutes before he was pronounced dead? harvey said he even knew wayyyyyyyy before.

[GINAFELICIA]

"...he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m
.....................................................
The first reports that Jackson had suffered a cardiac arrest, then that he had died, came from TMZ.com, a Los Angeles-based celebrity news website. Doctors at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center pronounced Jackson dead at 2:26 pm, and 18 minutes later at 2:44 pm. TMZ published: "Michael Jackson passed away today at the age of 50."[19]"

This is the wiki link to the above quote.

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On TMZ I found this:
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posted at 2:20 LA time I suppose.

Why wikipedia says different?

Is it possible that TMZ changed the minutes of their post later?

I never saw the proof that TMZ really announced it 6 minutes earlier, I was reading about it on hoax sites  :? or the proof is that post from 2:20 but I'm not sure, maybe they could change the time of the post? I wasn't there to see that post in real time.


Oh and there was also this:

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posted at 1:30 and updated, but we can't see the hour of the update...or maybe that update was posted at 2:44  :? ?

[~Souza~]

Both can be altered, so there is no way of telling. I only have seen 2:20 pm, since the beginning (well actually it was set to ET first, 5:20 PM). I have seen that since the early days, so if it was changed, it was changed very soon after publication, and if so, for what reason? They were the first already, even if it was published at 2:44 pm, so why change it that quick to 6 minutes BEFORE death?

Here is an interview with Harvey on June 25, which is pretty interesting. Nostraharvey predicts it will last for a long time and that there are many tentacles to the story. He is also talking about the Death Certificate that same day, busy with the DC? They always have the DC's pretty quickly, just look at Liz' DC, yet this one is only available two weeks later, on 7/7 and again TMZ is the first to show. But Harvey was already busy with it on June 25? Weird...

[youtube:3lhr9oq6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI-Xpc_NDZM[/youtube:3lhr9oq6]

Nostraharvey also KNEW up front that Propofol would be the cause of death:

[youtube:3lhr9oq6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZapvP14Z9oE[/youtube:3lhr9oq6]

[GINAFELICIA]

Both can be altered, so there is no way of telling.

I was told the same by other people.

 

I have seen that since the early days, so if it was changed, it was changed very soon after publication, and if so, for what reason? They were the first already, even if it was published at 2:44 pm, so why change it that quick to 6 minutes BEFORE death?.

To create a death-hoax story ?

I can't see another reason, as they were the ones who broke the news anyway.

[GINAFELICIA]

but let's say they were in from the beggining - why would they post it 6 minutes before death?