Jackson Time of Death a Mystery

Started by brunob12, January 06, 2011, 09:37:31 PM

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brunob12Topic starter

January 06, 2011, 09:37:31 PM Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 09:39:40 PM by brunob12

8/26/2009 1:22 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ the L.A. County Coroner cannot pinpoint the time of Michael Jackson's death ... but paramedics say when they arrived they believed he was dead for at least an hour and maybe longer.

Dr. Conrad Murray's statement to LAPD detectives lays out a timeline in which Dr. Murray administered Propofol at 10:40 AM and then ten minutes later (10:50) he walked out of the room, went to the bathroom and returned two minutes later (10:52) to find Jackson was not breathing. He did not have anyone call 911 until 12:21 PM ... approximately an hour-and-a-half later.

Sources say cops are suspicious of Dr. Murray's account. They say when Dr. Murray was interviewed by them two days after Jackson died -- his lawyer by his side -- the doctor's account seemed "scripted."

So when did Jackson really die? Rigor mortis typically doesn't set in for at least 3 hours, and often longer. If rigor mortis has not set in, the only way to approximate time of death is by body temperature. Once a person dies, their temperature eventually rises or falls to the temperature of the environment. For example, if Jackson were in a 70 degree room, his body temp would drop to 70. The body temperature typically drops a degree to a degree and a half per hour, but it's dependent on the ambient temperature.

Here's the problem -- when paramedics arrived the room was sweltering. So Jackson's body temperature could register in the 90 degree range, even if he were dead for a long time. But we're told paramedics did not get a read on his body temp because they were busy performing CPR.

Bottom line -- it's possible Jackson could have been dead much longer than Dr. Murray said. There's no scientific way of knowing.


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brunob12Topic starter

January 06, 2011, 09:39:12 PM #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Ops, sorry about that, guys. I opened by TIAI, thought it was a new post, but then I saw the date.

Sorry.


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scorpionchik

January 06, 2011, 09:44:51 PM #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "brunob12"

Ops, sorry about that, guys. I opened by TIAI, thought it was a new post, but then I saw the date.

Sorry.

Well, it is mystery as of today...............Because Michael did not die.  :lol:
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becca26

January 06, 2011, 10:03:07 PM #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Everything surrounding this case seems to be a mystery :geek:

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bec

January 06, 2011, 11:52:30 PM #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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Dr. Conrad Murray's statement to LAPD detectives lays out a timeline in which Dr. Murray administered Propofol at 10:40 AM and then ten minutes later (10:50) he walked out of the room, went to the bathroom and returned two minutes later (10:52) to find Jackson was not breathing. He did not have anyone call 911 until 12:21 PM ... approximately an hour-and-a-half later.

I see we are back to this time line again.

Too bad those cell phone records don't support it.

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scorpionchik

January 07, 2011, 12:12:46 AM #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
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Dr. Conrad Murray's statement to LAPD detectives lays out a timeline in which Dr. Murray administered Propofol at 10:40 AM and then ten minutes later (10:50) he walked out of the room, went to the bathroom and returned two minutes later (10:52) to find Jackson was not breathing. He did not have anyone call 911 until 12:21 PM ... approximately an hour-and-a-half later.

I see we are back to this time line again.

Too bad those cell phone records don't support it.

We should consider that Murrey probably was contacting or texting Michael waiting for instructions to see if it is time to call 911. Also other personal calls because he was not worry about anything. Nobody was dying that is what I would interpret from those phone calls. If Murrey left Michael intentionally dying, HE WOULD NOT MADE ANY CALLS TO HAVE ALIBI THAT HE WAS NEXT TO MICHAEL ON HIS DUTIES.You don't kill someone leaving bunch of mistakes, wrong track to become a suspect.
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bec

January 07, 2011, 12:19:46 AM #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "scorpionchik"

Quote from: "bec"

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Dr. Conrad Murray's statement to LAPD detectives lays out a timeline in which Dr. Murray administered Propofol at 10:40 AM and then ten minutes later (10:50) he walked out of the room, went to the bathroom and returned two minutes later (10:52) to find Jackson was not breathing. He did not have anyone call 911 until 12:21 PM ... approximately an hour-and-a-half later.

I see we are back to this time line again.

Too bad those cell phone records don't support it.

We should consider that Murrey was contacting Michael for instructions to see if he is far enough to call 911. Also other personal calls because he was not worry about anything. Nobody was dying that is what I would interpret from those phone calls. If Murrey left Michael intentionally dying, HE WOULD NOT MADE ANY CALLS TO HAVE ALIBI THAT HE WAS NEXT TO MICHAEL ON HIS DUTIES.You don't kill someone leaving bunch of mistakes, wrong track to become a suspect.
Ahhh! Indeed! You are right!

Common sense wins again. This is true, IF Murray were intentionally neglecting MJ to give him time to die, aka the murder theory, Murray would have made no phone calls or texts at all because cell phone activity indicates inattention to the patient and immediately casts doubt on Murray as distracted and irresponsible. No, if Murray was hired to kill MJ, he would have sat quietly in the corner and watched MJ die.

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