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It's going to full trial.Official.The Judge ruled there is sufficient evidence to warrant that C.Murray stand trial for the manslaughter of Michael Jackson.What happened to this 'deal' of admitting it and getting a suspended sentence....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??That go 'poof' as well as all the other evidence.
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"From the FBI files.these docs seem to be driver license and application form, so probably filled in not be the authorities, but probably MJ himself, so the question is how old MJ was when he filed an application. It is assumed for man to change height even until the age of 21. Maybe this is the reason why it says only 5'9.This document was filled in, by hand, by Michael in 1984. He writes that he is 5' 9", 120lbs, his birthday is 8/29/58 and his middle name is "Joe". He would have been 25 or 26, depending on when he was getting or renewing the DL.Seem unlikely that he would have been lying about these things 25 years ago (2009).
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"From the FBI files.these docs seem to be driver license and application form, so probably filled in not be the authorities, but probably MJ himself, so the question is how old MJ was when he filed an application. It is assumed for man to change height even until the age of 21. Maybe this is the reason why it says only 5'9.
From the FBI files.
Sorry,this is getting on my nerves and it needs correctingQuote#21 Christopher RogersEmpolyed LA Co coroner/ Chief forensic medicine. Supervise doctors who work at coroner’s office, and occasionally does autopsies himself..Did you perform the autopsy in this particular case in case? Yes. On June 26, 2009Condition of overall health was excellentHe was 5’ 9” and 136 pounds.I don't think you were looking at the right body,Mr Rogers.My father is the same age and height as Michael,he hasn't shrunk with age as people are suggesting atm on twitter.He isn't THAT old ffs.People start shrinking in like their late 60s/70s/80s if they do at all.Not everyone does.The casket was still 5'7 and when one is required they add inches ON.They are snug but also allow room for cushioning,shoes and anything else the body may be buried in/with.They don't make them to measure exactly,it isn't a tuxedo!My cousin was 6'4,his casket was 7ft+ long.
#21 Christopher RogersEmpolyed LA Co coroner/ Chief forensic medicine. Supervise doctors who work at coroner’s office, and occasionally does autopsies himself..Did you perform the autopsy in this particular case in case? Yes. On June 26, 2009Condition of overall health was excellentHe was 5’ 9” and 136 pounds.
There will be another hearing where he will be given a date so his team can prepare for it,so I'd say in the next few weeks,but the trial itself won't be for a while.The statement 'there is sufficient evidence' is BS in itself.What evidence?from my understanding of this whole mess-and I have read a lot this past week...there is barely anything left/been tested.Unless someone has a secret stash somewhere,I fail to see what the Judge has based this opinion/ruling off of
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "encino_girl"Quote from: "Sinderella"Sorry,this is getting on my nerves and it needs correctingQuote#21 Christopher RogersEmpolyed LA Co coroner/ Chief forensic medicine. Supervise doctors who work at coroner’s office, and occasionally does autopsies himself..Did you perform the autopsy in this particular case in case? Yes. On June 26, 2009Condition of overall health was excellentHe was 5’ 9” and 136 pounds.I don't think you were looking at the right body,Mr Rogers.My father is the same age and height as Michael,he hasn't shrunk with age as people are suggesting atm on twitter.He isn't THAT old ffs.People start shrinking in like their late 60s/70s/80s if they do at all.Not everyone does.The casket was still 5'7 and when one is required they add inches ON.They are snug but also allow room for cushioning,shoes and anything else the body may be buried in/with.They don't make them to measure exactly,it isn't a tuxedo!My cousin was 6'4,his casket was 7ft+ long.Unless (between 2003 & 2009) Michael developed a severe case of rapid onset osteoporosis, two inches is a huge amount of height for a man at his age to lose. There was absolutely no evidence of him 'shrinking' in any of the photos taken post trial era.The coroner's reports are laughable, at best.BTW, kudos to you for pointing out the very public and easily obtained contradictory "official" information!There is more evidence that Michael is 5' 9" than 5' 11". The only thing that shows his height as 5' 11" is the booking in 2005 and people are not always required to remove their shoes when being booked and a mug shot is taken. This record of height could therefore easily be incorrect. I previously posted a copy of Michael's DL, that expired in 1989, from the FBI files which were recently released and Michael's height is listed as 5' 9". The DL number in the AR is the same number as the 1989 DL number, this number remains the same even when you get your license renewed.just emailed sheriff dep regarding shoes on or off , hope they'll get back to me
Quote from: "encino_girl"Quote from: "Sinderella"Sorry,this is getting on my nerves and it needs correctingQuote#21 Christopher RogersEmpolyed LA Co coroner/ Chief forensic medicine. Supervise doctors who work at coroner’s office, and occasionally does autopsies himself..Did you perform the autopsy in this particular case in case? Yes. On June 26, 2009Condition of overall health was excellentHe was 5’ 9” and 136 pounds.I don't think you were looking at the right body,Mr Rogers.My father is the same age and height as Michael,he hasn't shrunk with age as people are suggesting atm on twitter.He isn't THAT old ffs.People start shrinking in like their late 60s/70s/80s if they do at all.Not everyone does.The casket was still 5'7 and when one is required they add inches ON.They are snug but also allow room for cushioning,shoes and anything else the body may be buried in/with.They don't make them to measure exactly,it isn't a tuxedo!My cousin was 6'4,his casket was 7ft+ long.Unless (between 2003 & 2009) Michael developed a severe case of rapid onset osteoporosis, two inches is a huge amount of height for a man at his age to lose. There was absolutely no evidence of him 'shrinking' in any of the photos taken post trial era.The coroner's reports are laughable, at best.BTW, kudos to you for pointing out the very public and easily obtained contradictory "official" information!There is more evidence that Michael is 5' 9" than 5' 11". The only thing that shows his height as 5' 11" is the booking in 2005 and people are not always required to remove their shoes when being booked and a mug shot is taken. This record of height could therefore easily be incorrect. I previously posted a copy of Michael's DL, that expired in 1989, from the FBI files which were recently released and Michael's height is listed as 5' 9". The DL number in the AR is the same number as the 1989 DL number, this number remains the same even when you get your license renewed.
Quote from: "Sinderella"Sorry,this is getting on my nerves and it needs correctingQuote#21 Christopher RogersEmpolyed LA Co coroner/ Chief forensic medicine. Supervise doctors who work at coroner’s office, and occasionally does autopsies himself..Did you perform the autopsy in this particular case in case? Yes. On June 26, 2009Condition of overall health was excellentHe was 5’ 9” and 136 pounds.I don't think you were looking at the right body,Mr Rogers.My father is the same age and height as Michael,he hasn't shrunk with age as people are suggesting atm on twitter.He isn't THAT old ffs.People start shrinking in like their late 60s/70s/80s if they do at all.Not everyone does.The casket was still 5'7 and when one is required they add inches ON.They are snug but also allow room for cushioning,shoes and anything else the body may be buried in/with.They don't make them to measure exactly,it isn't a tuxedo!My cousin was 6'4,his casket was 7ft+ long.Unless (between 2003 & 2009) Michael developed a severe case of rapid onset osteoporosis, two inches is a huge amount of height for a man at his age to lose. There was absolutely no evidence of him 'shrinking' in any of the photos taken post trial era.The coroner's reports are laughable, at best.BTW, kudos to you for pointing out the very public and easily obtained contradictory "official" information!
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"Quote from: "ForstAMoon"Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"From the FBI files.these docs seem to be driver license and application form, so probably filled in not be the authorities, but probably MJ himself, so the question is how old MJ was when he filed an application. It is assumed for man to change height even until the age of 21. Maybe this is the reason why it says only 5'9.This document was filled in, by hand, by Michael in 1984. He writes that he is 5' 9", 120lbs, his birthday is 8/29/58 and his middle name is "Joe". He would have been 25 or 26, depending on when he was getting or renewing the DL.Seem unlikely that he would have been lying about these things 25 years ago (2009).That's Michael's signature, but not his handwriting.Chris Tucker is appx. 6' 1" (he is officially 6' 3/4"). Michael is only about 2 inches shorter than him.I'm sorry, but Michael is not 5'9".And yes, you generally are required to remove your shoes when being booked for a felony crime.
