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TMZ live january 5th (delete if already discussed)start looking at around 7:00You are not allowed to view links. Register or Logintwitter question : how long will MJ trial last?Harvey answers: this is not the trial just the prelim, 30 witnesses bla bla bla and then the judge will decide if Michael Jackson should stand trial...
He says, "The defence lawyers have to do something and what they're gonna try and do is reflect attention away from their client and onto Michael Jackson. The reality is Michael Jackson was not suicidal, he was not self-destructive in the way they're trying to say, and hopefully their defence will not succeed."I'm sorry that the defence is going to have to bash Michael Jackson to try and divert attention from their guilty client. The reality is he was a nice, kind, decent individual; he wanted to change the world in a positive away... and unfortunately I think the defence is gonna try and attack his character, and hopefully it will not work."
:ugeek: You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginLOS ANGELES, — Prosecutors this week begin offering evidence that Michael Jackson's doctor is responsible for the pop star's death in a case that could hinge on who gave the singer a fatal dose of a powerful drug he used for sleep. Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's physician in 2009, has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death, and a Los Angeles judge Tuesday starts the preliminary hearing -- largely seen by legal experts as a formality-- to determine if enough evidence exists to bring the physician to a full trial...Jackson, one of the best-selling recording artists of all time who generated hits like "Thriller" and "Billie Jean," died of a prescription drug overdose on June 25, 2009, at age 50, after suffering cardiac arrest while in bed at his rented mansion.Murray has admitted injecting Jackson with the powerful anesthetic propofol, which has been determined to be a key factor in his death. The drug is used mostly in hospital settings, but it was given to Jackson at home as a sleep aid.Prosecutors hope to paint the doctor, who was hired by a concert promoter to care for Jackson before a series of performances, as a man who was in financial trouble and would irresponsibly give the singer drugs to keep his paycheck.Murray has pleaded not guilty, and last week defense attorneys indicated they may focus on a mysterious syringe found near Jackson to explore whether someone other than Murray injected the singer with the fatal dose of propofol.Some experts are skeptical about that possible defense, which is based on the assumption that Jackson, an admitted drug abuser, could have administered the propofol to himself.."It plays to what people perceive Jackson was about and that he might have done it , but it's hard to see how it occurs without Murray having some role in it," said Laurie Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School.Prelude to a trial? Last week, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor cleared the way for the defense to test residue from syringes and an intravenous tube used to administer drugs to Jackson.Following Jackson's death, the Los Angeles County coroner determined that propofol and the sedative lorazepam were the main drugs that caused Jackson's death...In their investigation, police and prosecutors focused on Murray and whether he had given Jackson too many drugs when the doctor should have known better.Evidence in Jackson's death has been outlined in search warrant affidavits, but prosecutors will present more of their case against Murray in the preliminary hearing, which the doctor's attorneys say could last two weeks.That would be even longer than the one-week preliminary hearing for football great O.J. Simpson's notorious 1995 trial on a charge he murdered his ex-wife, Levenson said. Most preliminary hearings in Los Angeles last a few hours at most.In the end, the judge in the Murray case is largely expected to order a full trial because the burden of proof on prosecutors is low at a preliminary hearing.Legal experts also see obstacles to any last-minute plea deal between prosecutors and defense attorneys."It sounds to me that this is going to be a trial," said Bennett Gershman, a former New York prosecutor. "There's just too many close factual questions that don't seem like they're going to be resolved by some kind of plea."Steven Cron, an attorney who teaches at Pepperdine Law School, said Murray's lawyers may pursue a different defense if the case does go beyond the preliminary phase. If that occurs, Cron said testimony of medical experts will be key given that Murray was alone with Jackson in his last waking hours."It's going to be a case of dueling experts. Whose expert is more credible and why," he said. 8-) So the media is speculating and getting advice from other people in the same field or similiar field of Doctors, lawyers (maybe real or not real), the media is getting advice from Tabliod show hosts who pretend to be lawyers and so called experts. I see the same faces who reported on Michael's trial in 2005. I think there is a blackout to a certain extent. I see a few reports from certain MSM. There is no news of this on my local stations in Portland, OR. There is alot of info on the net from these same media that have real shows on the T.V. yet the reports seem to be just put out on the net. The people who are paying attention via the net are getting sound bite info of media making up shit. I think this is deliberate. If the info is controlled like via the net less people will find the truth. Less people will find out about all the inconsistances. The general public is being blocked out. Whatever thought they had about Michael is what they think now. That is why it is highlighted about how people perceive Michael to be. That is also why more things are being said as if it is Michael going on trial again.Harvey said something very interesting recently. He said that Michael Jackson will go on trial and it will take about three months. Hmmm did Michael's actual trial take 3 months?You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuote from: "ijcsly"TMZ live january 5th (delete if already discussed)start looking at around 7:00You are not allowed to view links. Register or Logintwitter question : how long will MJ trial last?Harvey answers: this is not the trial just the prelim, 30 witnesses bla bla bla and then the judge will decide if Michael Jackson should stand trial...The article says that this is just seen largely as a formality by legal advisors. Like this is frivilous and just come on already. :roll: There is also alot of inaccurate info getting spread like wild fire over the net. It is all getting changed like the game telephone. I believe that some media people are aware of this hoax and they are determined not to be PUNKED so they stay silent and KEEP WATCHING! lolThis is exactly the circus crap from the media during 2005. This is also why T.M. said what he did before the trial started. Tom Mesereau speaks out on upcoming trial...You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuoteHe says, "The defence lawyers have to do something and what they're gonna try and do is reflect attention away from their client and onto Michael Jackson. The reality is Michael Jackson was not suicidal, he was not self-destructive in the way they're trying to say, and hopefully their defence will not succeed."I'm sorry that the defence is going to have to bash Michael Jackson to try and divert attention from their guilty client. The reality is he was a nice, kind, decent individual; he wanted to change the world in a positive away... and unfortunately I think the defence is gonna try and attack his character, and hopefully it will not work."That was a strategic move. He is very smart. He knows how to muddy the waters also. Payback is a bitch. The contradictions of witness statements is so that it will become so confusing as to cause so much reasonable doubt as to how, who did what, where, why... So I wonder how many other parallels will come out. A little competative Mike. You just had to have this pre-lim trial go a extra week to beat OJ. lolThis is truly stepping into Michael's world. He has created his surroundings for a very long time and this is no different. He doesn't do things like normal everyday folks. He has to do things this way because it is all he knows and the public and media hadn't allowed him to live a life like an average joe. Welcome to his world. Make Believe is very possible in a real world.I also wonder how is it that the same sherrif escort is with Murray. Hmmm Go watch the video on that link and see for yourself the same escorts. :ugeek: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Quote from: "Sinderella"Brian Oxman is outside the court saying Michael is a drug addict and claiming Michael's brain had swelling which was not in the autopsyThe AR on TMZ does report brain swelling on pages 26 - 28You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginSo unless this isn't the AR then there was brain swelling but I researched that too and could find no link to brain swelling and drug addiction. It's all in the videos I made about the AR when it originally came out. Unless someone with a medical degree can clear that up, I never understood what Oxman was on about.
Brian Oxman is outside the court saying Michael is a drug addict and claiming Michael's brain had swelling which was not in the autopsy
Cover-Up in Michael Jackson Death?3/1/2010 11:56 AM PST by TMZ Staff Michael Jackson received the fatal dose of Propofol through an IV in his leg, and law enforcement believes Dr. Conrad Murray may have tried covering it up ... this according to law enforcement sources and an anesthesiologist who reviewed the case.Dr. Murray told cops he administered only a very small amount of Propofol -- 2.5ml shortly before Jackson died. But Dr. John Dombrowski, a noted anesthesiologist and member of the board of the American Society of Anesthesiologists who reviewed the file, tells TMZ that 2.5ml couldn't put Jackson to sleep, much less kill him. Indeed, the Coroner's report notes the level of Propofol found in Jackson's body was equivalent to that found during "general anesthesia for major surgery."[...]If Dr. Murray did indeed attach the 100ml bottle to the tube and the contents emptied into Jackson's system, that would be 40 times more Propofol than Dr. Murray said he administered.There is no explanation for the empty bottle of Propofol in the hidden compartment.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
A cat can take a one-time injection of up to 8 mg / kg (translating in a total body weight of 25 kg / 55 lbs that could be injected with the content of a 20 ml ampule containing 10 mg/ml of the drug (=200 mg)).A cat can take a constant infusion of 0.1 - 0.8 mg/kg/min (translating into a 5 or 40 mg infusion per minute given MJ's body weight of 117 lbs / 50 kg thus an infusion duration of 40 or 5 minutes.So if MJ was first injected with 25 mg, this would have been sufficient for putting a kitten of 3.1 kg / 6.9 lbs. to sleep. Injection of the remaining 175 mg in one shot would have been sufficient to put a dog of 21.9 kg / 48.2 lbs to sleep.MJ was reported to have weighed 50 kg / 117 lbs.The veterinarian dosage advice translates for me into this conclusion:even one full bottle could not have been a letal dosis to a human being but put only a dog to sleep (to be confirmed by a physician).We discussed Propofol many times - this is a veterinary point of view on dosage:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Encino_girl, if you read my post you should have noticed I said EVERY possibility is open, even the one you think is going too far. You are the one saying that that is going too far, I never said yours was. Please don't twist my words every time and stop being so defensive every time. If you don't want to check if it is possible, that's fine. But I do want to know that, because it would shed a completely different light to all of this. If it's NOT possible, then the prelim is real which means there need to be charges against Murray and that way, there is a dead body because without a corpse no manslaughter charge. That would mean we should take a new turn. By only assuming things we will never get to the bottom.
On December 23, 2006, James Brown, in ill health, showed up at his dentist's office in Atlanta, Georgia several hours later than his appointment for dental implant work. During that visit, Brown's dentist observed that Brown looked "very bad ... weak and dazed." Instead of performing the dental work, the dentist advised Brown to see a doctor right away about his medical condition.
Oral surgeons are second only to anesthesiologists in their training to administer the drug because it is so widely used to remove wisdom teeth or insert dental implants, Perrott said.
The government's drug czar warned Thursday that Jackson's death is a wake-up call to the nation about prescription drug abuse. Gil Kerlikowske, chief of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, said in an interview on CBS' "The Early Show" that more people are dying in the United States from drug overdoses than gunshot wounds.
Weber said. "I would think it would be very hard to overdose alone because once you stop, the effects go away."
A Teva spokeswoman said the company had been contacted by the Drug Enforcement Administration about a lot number on a specific propofol vial "in relation to an investigation they are conducting," which she did not confirm or deny involved the Jackson death.That lot number, she said, is not one of those involved in the recall.
More than 57,000 vials of Teva-manufactured propofol were recalled after the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a health advisory on July 13, 2009, warning physicians not to use 100 ml vials of propofol from two lots.
Teva Pharmaceuticals failed to have proper quality control measures in place to prevent bacterial contamination from entering batches of their generic version of the anesthetic propofol, leading to a recall last year after at least 40 people became ill, according to federal inspectors.
The Teva propofol recall, and another propofol recall by Hospira, Inc. due to particulate matter contamination in November, has caused a shortage of propofol in the United States. As a result, the FDA has given APP Pharmaceuticals Inc. permission to import Propoven, a similar drug, into the U.S. Propoven has not been approved by FDA, but is in use in a number of other countries around the world.
The drug is available as an aqueous lipid emulsion (Dipdvan| ICI Pharmaceuticals) containing I% propofol, 10% soyabean oil, 1.2% egg phosphatide and 2.25% glycerol. Product information provided with propofol states that the preparation should be "... drawn aseptically into a sterile syringe ... immediately alter opening the ampoule" and that it should be injected "... without delay." Despite these recommendations, it is often difficult in clinical practice to ensure that there is no delay between drawing- up and administration. Therefore propofol can often be left standing in a sterile syring~ for some period of time prior to administration.
The intravenous anaesthetic propofol may become contaminated once the ampoules have been opened. [...] When propofol is stored in opened ampoules, the bacterial contamination rate is high.
Propofol can support rapid microbial growth and endotoxin production. To avoid infectious complications, scrupulous aseptic technique should be used when preparing or administering this anesthetic.
Escherichia coli is one of the most frequent causes of many common bacterial infections, including cholecystitis, bacteremia, cholangitis, urinary tract infection (UTI), and traveler's diarrhea, and other clinical infections such as neonatal meningitis and pneumonia.
Therefore propofol can often be left standing in a sterile syring~ for some period of time prior to administration. For some anaesthetists, this delay is on occassion deliberate with several induction doses prepared in advance for an operating list. The problem of clinical practicalities occasionally resulting in diver- gence from package insert guidelines has been previously identified, l but not quantified.
26 News spoke to C.A. Reid Memorial Funeral Home and found out that Jackson had a personal viewing the night before Brown's funeral. They tell 26 News Jackson stood over Brown for more than four hours to honor him.26 News has also learned Jackson asked about the casket Brown had picked. It is the same type of casket he picked for himself.
Hey All,I was just wondering when the transcripts of day 3 of the pre-trial was going to be posted? I'm new to the forum and find the posts on here quite interesting.
Hello...I am new here too...well sort of...I've been lurking for months. ; )On the transcripts I have been wondering the same thing...I am thinking possibly tomorrow but more likely Monday.
