Official General Prelim Discussion thread

[allforus7]

loyalfan, please, be strong no matter what. do not panic and don't forget you have people here you can talk to.

[Scream]

Oh, come on!  :roll: It's only been one day and there's already contradictions in the testamonies.

Besides, this part of the hoax was always going to be a bumpy ride, just let everything unravel before judging.

[allforus7]

there're already contradictions in the testimonies.
with a script there wouldn't have been.

[MissG]

Sorry, but why the sadness?

Michael faced a trial based on fake events and accusations. Contradictions happened all the way and it was a real trial, costing money as well.

The only "truth" supporting a guilty person is that MJ is gone, but we don´t know what happened, if he was murdered, suicidal or wathever.

The same scenario we got in 2005. The "evidence" were the child criying telling he was molested and the mother creating a circus.

Our evidence? a memorial, people who cried? ah, yes, a photo taken by Michael´s friend  the day he passed :|

[allforus7]

That's a simple way to put things just to lift our spirit, but nice.

[peggy99]

@Gema. I totally understand where you are coming from but when Michael faced trial someone actually brought these allegations against him so it was a legal case.  What I am trying to say is, if Michael was indeed alive, then there would be no legal case to answer and I don't understand a legal system that would let this happen knowing it was a hoax.  I have worked in the legal profession in the UK for 25 years and here, at least, there has to be strong evidence to suggest a crime has been committed.  I'm not trying to be sad or to bring anyone down and in one way I do still believe.  Just from my own perspective I'm finding all this really hard to swallow.

[allforus7]

And Peggy, what are the consequences for those who  start a trial based on fake documents (such as death certificates etc)?

[Pablito]

We should wait.

Anyway, as I said before, if Mike is really dead, then all of this, the Teddy Rilley's tweets, the "5alive" thing, the fake ambulance picture, the contradictions, all the stuff and facts, and things related to the hoax that proves that Michael is alive, they are a bunch of things from another hoax that want us to believe that he is alive.

I'm not saying he's dead, I will wait till 2012.

[allforus7]

a bunch of things from another hoax that want us to believe that he is alive.

[peggy99]

The consequences here in the UK would be severe with the distinct possibility of prison sentences.  This is what I don't understand about the whole thing.  I can understand the hoax being created and followed but what I don't understand is how a Court of Law would be involved.  Here in the UK, this just wouldn't happen.

[Pablito]

a bunch of things from another hoax that want us to believe that he is alive.

Yep, but with other purpose.

Money.

Not L.O.V.E. and "The greatest show in the world"

BTW: I'm from Argentina and my english sucks so bad, so it's a little harder to express myself

[allforus7]

I know.
Different actors.
Different purpose.
Fooled audience.

[peggy99]

Fake documents, actors, paid officials etc., I can deal with this but you cannot fake a court of law or indeed a Judge.  The consequences would be too extreme.

[MissG]

Looks like the American System has legal lagoons.

Back in 2005, Sneddon was supossed to fake evidences and go against the law.

Also, people being convicted to the death row for crimes they never commited or the other way, people being free after killing their wifes, i.e

If Michael is indeed alive, all this will prove how damaged the legal system is in USA.

[Pablito]

He's right.

The only thing that made me believe that Michael is still alive is that this hoax went wrong, and Ortega, the bodyguards and Michael's staff do not know that he's alive or that he faked is death.