Official General Prelim Discussion thread

[Sinderella]

From what I understand about the paramedic team and UCLA's handling of this...'death'
by way of testimonies from the past few weeks and previous to that, I have this evening concluded that there is probably more drama,real life based actions and truth in this music video than what went down on June 25th 2009.

Maybe they should start playing this on paramedic training days and give pointers like

:idea: 1.The importance of speed when aiming to reach the emergency room
:idea: 2.Lights and Sirens-switch them on
:idea: 3.Do not 'hang around' waiting for people to pack,this is not a vacation.
and so on.

[youtube:qwq4srwa]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN8b4ZJK_5c[/youtube:qwq4srwa]
(Note:this is a light hearted post but they actually should haha)

[2 Bad]

Thanks to all for all the posts here. There is a lot to consider.
All I know is from day one, 6-25-09 is that the timeline, the supposed facts, the outright lies and insinuations were all garbage. The Gov't agencies did not pay attention, the family did not pay attention, the media machine keeps chugging out more garbage. Meanwhile those of us that do try to figure this out are left pulling our hair out and banging our heads on our desks, but deep down we know this is all garbage for a reason. Just try to figure that out.  :lol:
I try to refrain from the "But that's wrong!!" for much of it because who really knows?

I did check out the site posted...

"In other news....
Here is a link that is an interesting read about what went on with his catalog...in case you missed it....check out the 'familiar' names involved."

http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/mi ... gain-22420

Right off it seems a huge task to understand. I also noticed that Mike is sporting a huge afro in a photo with Al Maknik. Now for sure as an adult I never saw him with an afro like this! This photo has to be BS, that leads to how much of what we find on Michael is BS??
Check it out, about 1/4 down the page you'll see the photo.

http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/mi ... 0?page=0,1

Thanks to all.
I'll keep simmering.
We love you and miss you so much Michael!!

[mjssoulmate]

That photo was taken at a party.  It's a retro wig.

[Sinderella]

Just to let you all know,the last few days will be up tomorrow.
We are then waiting on Murray's court hearing for the trial date OR possibly a deal...
What are the general thoughts on this 'deal' the media mentioned?That he will walk away with a suspended sentence if he admits he is guilty of manslaughter.

(NOTE TO EVERYONE:There is a member posting spam comments in a number of threads,please DO NOT click on anything it is likely to be a virus.The posts are huge in length,you can't miss them and the member is 'creelostedoda', so just letting you know if you see these avoid like the plague until Souza can delete them and ban the user.x

[encino_girl]

Just to let you all know,the last few days will be up tomorrow.
We are then waiting on Murray's court hearing for the trial date OR possibly a deal...
What are the general thoughts on this 'deal' the media mentioned?That he will walk away with a suspended sentence if he admits he is guilty of manslaughter.

(NOTE TO EVERYONE:There is a member posting spam comments in a number of threads,please DO NOT click on anything it is likely to be a virus.The posts are huge in length,you can't miss them and the member is 'creelostedoda', so just letting you know if you see these avoid like the plague until Souza can delete them and ban the user.x

Thanks for the heads up on the possible virus!

Be back later with some thoughts if I can gather them and put them in one place.  :D

[Sinderella]

@ E_G No worries,they have been blocked now but might sign back up with a new name so just wanted to let people know not to be clicking on any suspicious links or comments.

Haha,good luck with that one,if you succeed I look forward to an almighty post later on  :lol:

[suspicious mind]

the nurse my husband had for his treatment the other day was telling me what was going on as things progressed. at one point she pointed out a ivdrip of saline solution and told me that this was the buddy to the chemo. she went on to explain that in case of a reaction the treatment would be stopped and the buddy would be used to flush his system. and i remember also when he got his port and they gave him an antibiotic that there was another bag there. now from what i remember reading from testamony an iv bag was cut and the propofol bottle was found in it. why would murry do this if he already had an iv in the persons leg? it sounds like it was done in a manner to keep anyone from being able to help him and also like it was done quickly.that might also account for the broken syringe. murry could have just paniced and wanted to get rid of stuff even if he didn't do it because he knew he was being set up.

have i gone la la again . idk any thoughts

[Sinderella]

Was the cutting of the IV bag not done when he was packing things into bags and hiding things(doing a very BAD job at it) but doing it none the less...
Fleak said the solution in the IV bag was clear,not milky or cloudy so the profool was not being used via that,infact the only line that had a trace of it in was the branch line,not the main line,that was clear of drugs which indicates whoever it was inserted into was on saline and the branch line was just there..and again looks like a total set up.

The more I re-read it all and look into things myself and google...the more I Iaugh.
It's supposed to be a serious thing,I know..I truly feel very sorry for it but it's just all so hysterical,it is just too unbelievable....to be beLIEved I am afraid.

[suspicious mind]

i thought it said the bag was milky looking. rereading isn't in the cards for me tonight though. perhaps tomarrow at some point. :D

[Sinderella]

"If we are to go forward, we must go back and rediscover those precious values - that all reality hinges on moral foundations and that all reality has spiritual control."-MLKJr

Happy MLK day to everyone.
Great man.Greater legacy.

[voiceforthesilent]

Just to let you all know,the last few days will be up tomorrow.
We are then waiting on Murray's court hearing for the trial date OR possibly a deal...
What are the general thoughts on this 'deal' the media mentioned?That he will walk away with a suspended sentence if he admits he is guilty of manslaughter.

(NOTE TO EVERYONE:There is a member posting spam comments in a number of threads,please DO NOT click on anything it is likely to be a virus.The posts are huge in length,you can't miss them and the member is 'creelostedoda', so just letting you know if you see these avoid like the plague until Souza can delete them and ban the user.x

Hi - just my thought but if this is a parallel to the 2005 trial there won't be any plea bargain and Dr Murray will want to go to court to prove his innocence. I feel like anything less wouldn't complete this chapter of the lesson. Blessings.

[Sinderella]

i thought it said the bag was milky looking. rereading isn't in the cards for me tonight though. perhaps tomarrow at some point. :D

Saved you the hassle

Q: Did the tubing above it have liquid in it?
Fleak: Yes.
Q: Was that clear?
Fleak: Yes
Q: Was the IV bag clear?
Fleak: Yes.
Q: Did it have a milky appearance to it?
Fleak: It was clear

Also Syringe was not broken,it was in seperate parts

Q: Talk about the "broken" syringe.
Fleak: I should have described it as "separate." It was not cracked it was not broken it was not defective in any way. They were just separate—the needle and the plunger.

@Voice,Well there is that,we shall find out next week!It could go either way,the trial is a toal mess.It is so hard to predict anything,I mean Murray just doesn't seem bothered at all,he's out having dinner,shopping,going the gym....no fans are after him or harassing him daily..which I find really strange.Not that he is out and about,that the non believers aren't camped outside his door with pitchforks.
I know they want to see him go to prison so there is no point in harming him-highly unlikely but still...no reports from the almighty TMZ about how he is in fear of his life whilst out with his family.
So yeah....er....Keep Watchin'...lol.
there is also the strange fact Jermaine is out the country...

[Datroot]

.....and unable to ge back......allegedly.

[Sinderella]

I call BS going off my findings on the rules and regs for the length of time a US passport MUST legally have left on it to
1.leave the US
2.enter Africa

What do you call? haha

[~Souza~]

I call BS going off my findings on the rules and regs for the length of time a US passport MUST legally have left on it to
1.leave the US
2.enter Africa

What do you call? haha

Same here. I posted that in another thread. If I take a plane, my passport needs to be valid for at least 6 months, within the EU. I can imagine that could be longer if go outside the EU.