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12/28/2010 10:00 AM PST by TMZ Staff  

TMZ has learned more than 2 dozen witnesses will testify at  Dr. Conrad Murray's preliminary hearing in the Michael Jackson manslaughter case.



Sources say the prelim will last roughly 2 weeks and approximately 30 witnesses will be called.

We're told there won't be a "Perry Mason" moment -- instead, prosecutors will lay out their case, piece by piece, to show Dr. Murray acted recklessly by medicating Michael with Propofol and other drugs at his home the day he died.

Sources say the witnesses include various medical experts, as well as 3 LAPD detectives who investigated the case.

And, we're told, prosecutors will present more evidence than in a typical manslaughter case, because the legal theory here is novel -- that a doctor committed a homicide in the treatment of a patient.
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Andrea

Yes, "piece by piece" is what I noticed right away....piece by piece indeed!
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Buckle up guys.
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Quote from: "Andrea"
Yes, "piece by piece" is what I noticed right away....piece by piece indeed!

I noticed this too:

And, we're told, prosecutors will present more evidence than in a typical manslaughter case, because the legal theory here is novel

Novel
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2. a printed and bound book that is an extended work of fiction: "his bookcases were filled with nothing but novels"; "he burned all the novels"

Adjective
1. fresh; new; an original and of a kind not seen before: "the computer produced a completely novel proof of a well-known theorem"
2. refreshing; pleasantly new or different: "common sense of a most refreshing sort"
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mjkate

Will the public get to hear all of this evidence. Will we get to follow along or will it all be sealed
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Andrea

I'm guessing the BAM won't happen during this prelim - hence the "We're told there won't be a "Perry Mason" moment" - meaning there won't be that climactic moment in court when something amazing happens and there is a shocking confession or evidence brought to light and everyone realizes what's happened.  

There are 30ish witnesses - seems like a lot but then again there seem to be about 30 conflicting stories as to what happened that day.  I think the "piece by piece" comment is quite telling, I do think there will be significant "clues" during the prelim that will leave a lot of people scratching their heads.
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Sources say the witnesses include various medical experts, as well as 3 LAPD detectives who investigated the case.

Great, Maybe they can explain to the judge why they waited so long to begin the investigation, making it easy for anyone to just come in and out and take things from the crime scene.
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June 25, 2009 - The Day I Woke Up

About the "no Perry Mason moment..."


Perry MasonFrom Wikipedia

Perry Mason is a fictional character, a defense attorney who originally was the main character in numerous pieces of detective fiction authored by Erle Stanley Gardner. Perry Mason was featured in more than 80 novels and short stories, most of which had a story line which involved his client being put on trial for murder. Typically, Mason was able to establish his client's innocence by demonstrating the guilt of another character. (Note:Are we to understand that no one else will be identified as guilty? [/color])

Gardner, who was one of the best-selling authors of all time, had "135 million copies of his books in print in America alone in the year of his death" in 1969.[1] The character of Perry Mason was portrayed each weekday on a long running radio series,[2] followed by the well-known depictions on film and television, including "television's most successful and longest-running lawyer series"[3] from 1957 to 1966, another series in 1973-1974, starring Monte Markham and Brett Somers, and more than 25 made-for-TV movies from 1985 to 1993.[citation needed]
 
[edit] CharacterThe name "Perry Mason" dates to creator Gardner's childhood. As a child, Gardner was a reader of the magazine Youth's Companion. The magazine, best known for producing the original Pledge of Allegiance in 1891, was published in Boston, Massachusetts, by the Perry Mason Company (later renamed "Perry Mason & Co." after the founder died). When Gardner created his fictional attorney, he borrowed the name of the company that published his favorite childhood magazine.[4]

Gardner provided more information about Mason's character in the earliest novels, although his character is largely taken for granted in later novels, as well as the television series and movies. In the first novel (The Case of the Velvet Claws, 1933), Perry Mason describes himself as follows:

You'll find that I'm a lawyer who has specialized in trial work, and in a lot of criminal work. ... I'm a specialist on getting people out of trouble. They come to me when they're in all sorts of trouble, and I work them out. ... If you look me up through some family lawyer or some corporation lawyer, he'll probably tell you that I'm a shyster. If you look me up through some chap in the District Attorney's office, he'll tell you that I'm a dangerous antagonist but he doesn't know very much about me.

Gardner depicts Mason as a lawyer who fights hard on behalf of his clients and who enjoys unusual, difficult or nearly hopeless cases. He frequently accepts clients on a whim based on his curiosity about their problem, for a minimal retainer, and finances the investigation of their cases himself if necessary. In The Case of the Caretaker's Cat (1935), his principal antagonist, District Attorney Hamilton Burger, says: "You're a better detective than you are a lawyer. When you turn your mind to the solution of a crime, you ferret out the truth." And in The Case of the Moth-Eaten Mink (1952), a judge who has just witnessed one of the lawyer's unusual tactics says: "Mr. Mason ... from time to time you seem to find yourself in predicaments from which you extricate yourself by unusual methods which invariably turn out to be legally sound. The Court feels you are fully capable of looking after your own as well as your clients' interests."

Another frequent antagonist, Lieutenant Tragg of the Homicide Squad, has a discussion with Mason about his approach to the law in The Case of the Drowsy Mosquito (1943). Mason is recovering from having been poisoned, and Tragg is investigating. He says:

"How does it feel to be the victim for once? ... You've been sticking up for criminals and now you can see the other side of the picture."
 :idea:  :idea:  :idea: "Not 'sticking up for criminals'," (Mason) protested indignantly. "I have never stuck up for any criminal. I have merely asked for the orderly administration of an impartial justice. ... Due legal process is my own safeguard against being convicted unjustly. To my mind, that's government. That's law and order."  

Other than what we learn of his character from his actions in the novels, we know very little about Perry Mason. We are told nothing about his family, his background, his personal life, or his education. In Season One of the television series, Perry helps out an old friend from World War Two. He mentions that he was in a company that was at D-Day. Mason has a professional relationship with Paul Drake though after The Case of the Velvet Claws fees are seldom discussed. Della Street is Mason's only (unacknowledged) romantic interest. We only know that he lives in an apartment because he is occasionally wakened from sleep to go to his office—he does not entertain anyone at home. We know his tastes in food, because many scenes take place in restaurants, and that he is an excellent driver, because he participates in the occasional car chase. Other than those scanty facts, there is so little physical description of him that the reader is not even really sure what he looks like.

The movies from the 1930s were not closely based on the character of Perry Mason as revealed in the books and contain plot and character developments which are not taken as canonical in the remainder of the books and adaptations—for instance, in one film Perry marries his long-time secretary Della Street, while Paul Drake turns into comic sidekick Spudsy Drake.

In one episode of the TV series, Perry meets an old friend from his childhood, and we learn that at least part of it — the part when he knew her—was spent in Oregon.

[edit] NovelsMain article: Perry Mason (novels)
Erle Stanley Gardner "had spent more than twenty years practicing law in California, and the knowledge he gained was put to good use in the Perry Mason stories, which hinge on points of law, forensic medicine or science as clever as a watch mechanism ... and also the total lack of characterization".[5] While the Mason novels were largely a form of pulp fiction of the sort that began Gardner's writing career, they are somewhat unusual in that the whodunnit mysteries usually involved two solutions: one in which the authorities believed (whereby Mason's client was guilty) and an alternative explanation (whereby Mason's client was innocent).   8-) The second half of each novel is invariably devoted to a lengthy courtroom scene, during which Mason arrives at the alternative explanation and proves it to the satisfaction of the court. "It is perfectly true that our author works to formula; in one sense, the plot never varies. Having said this, one must add that the variety of persons and circumstances and the ingenuity in contriving the details that Gardner dreamed up in his dozens of cases are astonishing and entrancing."[6]

A hallmark of the stories is that Perry Mason (with the assistance of his devoted secretary Della Street and his faithful private investigator, Paul Drake), once embarked on a case, will juggle the evidence using unusual, even bizarre tactics, in order to mislead the police—but (except for the very earliest novels) always in an ethical fashion. From The Case Of The Long-Legged Models (1958):

"It's my contention, Della, that an attorney doesn't have to sit back and wait until a witness gets on the stand and then test his recollection simply by asking him questions. If facts can be shuffled in such a way that it will confuse a witness who isn't absolutely certain of his story, and if the attorney doesn't suppress, conceal, or distort any of the actual evidence, I claim the attorney is within his rights."

The influence of the television series has given the general public the impression that Mason is highly ethical. In the earliest novels, Mason was not above skulduggery to win a case. In The Case of the Counterfeit Eye (1935), he breaks the law a few times including manufacturing false evidence (glass eyes). Mason manipulates evidence and witnesses, resulting in the acquittal of the murderer in The Case of the Howling Dog (1934). The Case of the Curious Bride (1934) is:

"...a good Perry Mason except for one great flaw, which the author would scarcely have been guilty of later on: he tampers with the evidence, by having a friend move into an apartment and testify to the state of the doorbells. ... One is left with the uncomfortable idea that maybe the murder did not take place as Mason reconstructs it."[6]

In later novels, the only crime which he can be seen to commit might be illegal entry, when he and Paul Drake are searching for evidence, and even then he would expect to put up a strong and effective defense leading to an acquittal. Hamilton Burger is constantly under the impression that Mason has done something illegal, but has never been able to prove it.

Gardner prefaced many of his later novels with tributes to coroners and forensic pathologists whose work was instrumental to solving cases. Gardner inserts his ideas about the importance of proper autopsies into many of his Mason novels. In The Case of the Fugitive Nurse, for instance, close scrutiny of dental records in the identification of burned bodies is a key point. In that same story, the possible use of additives to track illegal resale of medical narcotics is examined.

However, a study of Gardner’s novels by critic Russel B. Nye (The Unembarrassed Muse, Dial, 1970) did expose a pattern. Nye called Gardner’s novels as formal as Japanese Noh drama. He described fairly rigid plot points:

1.Attorney Perry Mason’s case is introduced.
2.Mason and his crew investigate.
3.Mason’s client is accused of a crime.
4.Further investigations ensue.
5.Then the trial begins.
6.In a courtroom coup, Mason introduces new evidence and often elicits a confession from the lawbreaker.


NOTE: So, no Perry Mason moment means we'll get no new evidence and no confession from the lawbreaker.  We'll get nothing remotely substantial from this hearing? Or, this actually is a Perry Mason moment and the comment was intentionally meant to throw in Perry Mason like similarities as a clue about strategy and motive, but throw us off that trail at the same time?  
This wouuld be an Approach/Avoidance tactic and Law of Disinformation
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paula-c

This audience is going to have a duration of 2 weeks, good has prepared now is that the good stuff
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:cry: I'm sorry but every time they go there for MJ's case I feel very scared because it seems so real  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
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I LOVE YOU MICHAEL,PLEASE COME BACK \":(\"

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:cry: I'm sorry but every time they go there for MJ's case I feel very scared because it seems so real  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:


Take a deep breath, repeat after me, I beLIEve Michael is alive and it will all be ok. ;)   Just tighten up your safety belt and hold on very tight.

Love and hugs to you.

God Bless you.

 :)
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I am so excited to see what happens!  :D This is going to be so intense! Everyone got there seatbelts buckled?
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June 25, 2009 - The Day I Woke Up

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And piece by piece.....Michael will be called to testify! Bam!
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("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

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Quote from: "giuliana78"
:cry: I'm sorry but every time they go there for MJ's case I feel very scared because it seems so real  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:


Take a deep breath, repeat after me, I beLIEve Michael is alive and it will all be ok. ;)   Just tighten up your safety belt and hold on very tight.

Love and hugs to you.

God Bless you.

 :)

thank you so much, you're so kind.
it is not easy after 18 months, and you all know it.
but you're right  'I beLIEve Michael is alive and it will all be ok'.
thank you again  ;)
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I LOVE YOU MICHAEL,PLEASE COME BACK \":(\"

SEAT BELT!!!    no no no, that will not do...I need a safety bar with this roller coaster ride, all the loops and up and down hills, and can I please have a helmet for how many times I might bash my head against a wall.
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