TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!

[Yas]

Maybe it's just a short name for Joseph? many people do that?
People say my name all the time like this : "Lies" when it is "Marlies" so..
maybe i've got a twin too now (sorry didn't mean to mock with you guys )

It can be short name for Joseph, but you can use short name in legal documents. By low in my country only one letter wrong in full name is considered as different person and makes the document invalid. I don't know about US low, but it should be the same.
If there is anyone here that knows more about US low...Help, please!  

[Léa]

I strongly believe his real name is Michael Joe Jackson, and Michael Joseph Jackson is just a screen name which most celebrity do have.. :ugeek:

this could be a possibilty!! to keep some of his private life private!!

example - Cliff Richards real name is Harry Webb!! he changed cos Cliff Richard sounds better than Harry Webb!! loads have done it cos they had noraml names!! Madonna is another.. she's Madge really!! lol..

I think that's the better theory too,

Because MJ doesn't have a  lot of privacy (to say the least) and this could have been a try to try keeping some things secret such as certificatesn marriage...

[EarthAngel90]

I don't think that Michael would change his name anytime soon unless he wanted to ... I think his name is Same Michael Joseph Jackson  ...  The Name Joseph does change in two different ways : Joe or Short Term of Joe - Jo-Jo.  I know this because My Brother's Name is Joseph - the name does change time to time.

[tiida11]

TMZ admitted that the Michael's middle name is Joe.

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[Yas]

TMZ admitted that the Michael's middle name is Joe.

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I really think you should post this as new thread, so everyone could see it. I think it's very important.
Weird thing is that this video is posted on September 03, 2009 and nobody noticed it earlier.

[CC]

THANK YOU YAS! I CHANGE THE NAME OF THE TOPIC ...

[Yas]

THANK YOU YAS! I CHANGE THE NAME OF THE TOPIC ...

That is good idea, too   . But... no need to thank me, tiida11 found that video. I just found it (veeeeeeeeery) important.  

[Crescendo]

I dont believe in the 2 people theory either. Like Ive stated in the past if Mikey had a twin he would have been part of the J5. Their dad would have made sure of it. lol
but in all seriousness...

I think its possible he changed his name. its very easily done.
ive never seen Mjs BC but i know in court his name was read out to be Michael Joe. So..
which could be very interesting because if he changed his name legally to Joe then his DC may be invalid and so may keep him out of any legal trouble if he is still alive.

thank you tiida and CC for that video. Tmz never ceases to interest me. lol

just thought i'd add an example here:

I will not reveal my full name but my middle name is Anne. So say my name was once Stephanie Annette Fisher but i changed it to Stephanie Anne Fisher.. Im no longer known as Stephanie Annette Fisher.

I know Miley Cyrus changed her name legally from Destiny Cyrus to Miley Cyrus. So I would believe a document like a DC would say Miley Cyrus and not the her former name. I could be very wrong.

[Alem (Thetruth)]

During the Dangerous Deposition he had to state his full name in court and he stated "Michael Joseph Jackson".

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During the 2005 trial he had to state his full name and it was MICHAEL JOE JACKSON.
Its all on tape.

[Melzy777]

like I said in the other thread, I posted the BMI stuff on MJHD ages ago.
Here's my old post. Damn you MJHD for closing down. *hmph*  But thank you google cache for saving info!!  :lol:
(strangely though, it seems so much longer ago that I posted this.. oh well.)

Post by Melzy777 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:16 pm
And the BMI publishing site does NOT have a Michael Joseph Jackson listed.
They only have Michael Jackson, Michael J Jackson, and Michael Joe Jackson. If MJ was ever going to use "Michael Joseph Jackson" then that would have to be on there too..
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CAE/IPI #: 523553664
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CAE/IPI #: 523553762
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CAE/IPI #: 2961801
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These 3 different aliases, each with a different CAE/IPI number cover the 3 names MJ would/could use. These are legal names.
As we can see there's no Michael Joseph Jackson.


**And, like I just said in the other thread, If there were a Michael Joseph at BMI.com then I'd be posting it here too. But there isn't one.. And, there really SHOULD be if Michael was using Joseph for any legal reason.

[Leah-Kim]

Ok here we go...
My name is Kimberley
On my Current Passport  it says Kimberley Anne (Surname)
On my Driving license it says Kim (surname)
On my birth certificate says Kimberley Anne (surname)
On my old passport says Kim Anne (Surname)
On my bank cards Kimberly (Spelt wrong) KIM on another. and K.A (Surname) on another

OK im English but i also have a USA work Visa and residency my Visa document says Kimberley Anne (Surname)
My Green card (Residency card) Says Kim A (Surname)

I dont think its such a big deal and i have never had any problems and its my FIRST name not even my middle name..
Hope this helps.

[Melzy777]

Kim, I think the old argument was that legally you can shorten your name to Kim, but you can't lengthen it to Kimberly.
So, Michael Joseph could shorten it to Joe, but Michael Joe could not lengthen it to Joseph.

[Leah-Kim]

Kim, I think the old argument was that legally you can shorten your name to Kim, but you can't lengthen it to Kimberly.
So, Michael Joseph could shorten it to Joe, but Michael Joe could not lengthen it to Joseph.

I agree i forgot to mention actually my middle name is spelt incorrectly on my passport it should be Kimberley AnnE  but they missed the E of Anne so it reads Kimberley Ann and actually that is a pet peeve of mine all my documents are different sometimes the E in KimberlEy is also missed out.
So conclusion for me is that MJ is..........
Michael Joseph Jackson  (Legal Name)
He shortened it to
Michael JOE Jackson  (Because he could)

PS Melzy thanks for replying to me i feel less invisible now!!!  :lol:

[Alem (Thetruth)]

I see your point of view, Kim. However while in court you would have to state your full name and Michael previously used Joseph but after 2003 he used Joe. This is in writing and on tape.

[Melzy777]

Kim, I think the old argument was that legally you can shorten your name to Kim, but you can't lengthen it to Kimberly.
So, Michael Joseph could shorten it to Joe, but Michael Joe could not lengthen it to Joseph.

I agree i forgot to mention actually my middle name is spelt incorrectly on my passport it should be Kimberley AnnE  but they missed the E of Anne so it reads Kimberley Ann and actually that is a pet peeve of mine all my documents are different sometimes the E in KimberlEy is also missed out.
So conclusion for me is that MJ is..........
Michael Joseph Jackson  (Legal Name)
He shortened it to
Michael JOE Jackson  (Because he could)

PS Melzy thanks for replying to me i feel less invisible now!!!  :lol:

That would get annoying. I like Anne with the e on the end too. My surname is long, and rare, and so many people spell it wrong. It really annoys me. So, I have to be extra careful when I write it down or spell it out. Of course, I can see the bonus in being able to say "Oh, that's not me. That's not how I spell my surname"  :lol:
But, a judge would just laugh and say "95% of other details we have here match up to you, so too bad."  :roll:

And,  I always thought MJ was Michael Joseph. So I don't know which one to choose.. Because...
A,) Michael Joe: Michael hates Joe as his middle name, it sounds so unprofessional, so he lengthens it to Joseph whenever he can because he's the King of Pop, and when you're the King of Pop you can do these things.
B,) Michael Joseph: Michael hates Joseph as his middle name, because that's what he had to call his father as a child, so he shortens it to Joe whenever he can, which sounds more down to earth, because he's the King of Pop, and when you're the King of Pop you can do these things.
C,) What's it matter?? Michael/Jack/Manuel/Omar/Paul/Jimmy/Peter etcetc has so many aliases that Joe or Joseph is irrelevant.  :lol:  What? Don't laugh. He's the King of Pop, and when you're the King of Pop you can do these things!

(and, thanks for replying me. Same deal! hahaha!)