Searching for proof that MJ actually lived at carolwood

[dejavu]

They were 7 the actors who interpreted the personage of James Bond
Sean Connery (1962-1971),(1983):

David Niven (1967)

George Lazenby (1969):

Roger Moore (1964),(1973-1985):

Timothy Dalton (1987-1989):

Pierce Brosnan (1995-2002):

Daniel Craig (2006-actualidad):

and Barry Nelson
Casino Royale (TV, 1954)
But it was an adactacion for the television, but in the cinema they were 7 till now.
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But "officially" only 6
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But this "007" road is interesting (Don't forget the MGM-Sony connection), we should explore some more... in another thread  :lol:

[Sinderella]

"I fell,trapped into her web of sin..but I loved it 'cause it's dangerous"

haha,of course he did.
Tune.

I see the number 7 is back in the room...all this math pains my brain

[dejavu]

[youtube:3bjr26hn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9cZJJcPk6Y&feature=related[/youtube:3bjr26hn]

haha no freakin way

there are 7 backing dancers (for part of it anyways)

pause at 1:24

[whatyourheartsays]

"I fell,trapped into her web of sin..but I loved it 'cause it's dangerous"

haha,of course he did.
Tune.

I see the number 7 is back in the room...all this math pains my brain

Wasn't me  :mrgreen:

[truthprevails]

I'm sorry, but what does living or not living at 100 North Carolwood have to do with #7? I just don't understand the passion for numbers on this forum, and it really just makes me want to give up... I'm a facts-oriented person, and feel like so much of what has been going on lately has been "reaching"... Just people jumping on tiny "clues" that aren't even necessarily clues.
So what if MJ loved the number 7? What does that tell us? What if he leased the house from Sean Connery? I don't see any significance... He probably still lived there (at least to some extent) between Dec. 2008 - June 2009, which means nothing (IMO) for hoax purposes. There were fans who saw Michael go in and out, and were even invited inside the house. So Michael certainly spent some time there.

[whatyourheartsays]

I'm sorry, but what does living or not living at 100 North Carolwood have to do with #7? I just don't understand the passion for numbers on this forum, and it really just makes me want to give up... I'm a facts-oriented person, and feel like so much of what has been going on lately has been "reaching"... Just people jumping on tiny "clues" that aren't even necessarily clues.
So what if MJ loved the number 7? What does that tell us? What if he leased the house from Sean Connery? I don't see any significance... He probably still lived there (at least to some extent) between Dec. 2008 - June 2009, which means nothing (IMO) for hoax purposes. There were fans who saw Michael go in and out, and were even invited inside the house. So Michael certainly spent some time there.

I don't know about number 7, it started with sean connery being James bond and MJ living in 007's house lol ! I also believe it has nothing to do with hoax.
If you know that some fans went into the house, then, lucky you ! That why I opened the thread for : getting some evidence to proove this house is not just "hoax purpose rented" as i feel it was. This was the exact purpose of my post : finding the clues and proofs to debunk the clues and make the result of all this.

[BabyShine]

Hello everybody!

I haven't read all your post but I can ASSURE you that Michael LIVED at Carlwood. At least in 2005. We were very few fans to know that he was staying there and my friend MET him as he was driving back home from the trial. Right before the gates opened, he opened his windows and my friend and him talked.
The idea of renting the house for the purpose of the hoax...why not. All I know is that there was a time when he was there to live in there, and during this time he was very weak and even sick, I think ( during the trials). Because of that purpose and by the time, he didnt want anybody to know he was renting this house because he really needed to rest and did not want to be haunted by the paparazzis. I have never met him personnaly there, but I drove by many times and could see upstairs some bodyguards walking around the house at night to make sure he was safe.
My theory is that he had the hoax in mind since few years, but the trials in 2005 have almost KILLED him and I'm sure it has motivate his will to take his revenge over the media (even if of course, revenge might not be the number one motivation for him). So he might have started working really hard on this hoax right after he was "freed", could be that he has been organizing everything in this house and did not want poeple to come in, but well, as to answer your question...he lived there for sure.

[Sinderella]

Hello everybody!

I haven't read all your post but I can ASSURE you that Michael LIVED at Carlwood. At least in 2005.

I am sorry but I am going to have to correct you
Michael lived in Neverland until the trials in 2005,he then went to live in Bahrain and Ireland for 18months from 2005 to the end of 2006, he organised a move to Vegas in Dec 06 with Jack Wishna.He lived at Monte Cristo way for about 6months and left there in June 2007.
The reports for him moving to LA and renting Carolwood started late in 2008.
He also rented a home at W. Palomino Lane which he supposedly lived in between Monte Cristo and Carolwood and up until early 2009.

[BabyShine]

I still can assure you that he was living at Carlwood way before 2008. When he was leaving the trials, two vans were actually leaving: everybody thought Michael was in the first and this van was going...where he was supposed to live back then (dont remember wether it was Neverland or not), and a second van was leaving afterwards with the real him inside. I know that it happened that way at least few times. My friends and I were close to some members of the family back then and thats how we knew he was hiding there. My friend had been waiting for him in fornt of the gates because she knew he would leave court and come directly home. The first thing that Michael did when he opened the window was to make her promise that she wouldnt tell anyone he was staying there. More because of the paparazzis than because of the fans, I guess. Again, he was extremely weak and needed to protect himself to survive Im sure ( so no offend to his fans). I dont know what has been said in the medias but whatever was said, believe me or not, he didnt first move at Carlwood in 2008, no way. Anyway, I was just trying to help and share what I know....Take care

[kalispera]

Oh, i see.
So if he lived there..that leads us obviously to..
to what?

[whatyourheartsays]

Oh, i see.
So if he lived there..that leads us obviously to..
to what?

you should re-read the purpose of the post   The point is that i THINK he might never lived there and so we work on prooving he actually lived there : pictures, videos etc...for the moment, apart from fans statement (and if they are insiders or non-believers or fakers, how can we trust what they could say...) we have ALMOST NOTHING about MJ actually living there.

The point is : if someone never lived somewhere, and that no paparazzi ever caught him in that place, how could he die in that place and have a paparazzi right there at the exact day and time of the day. My point is to proove that his stay in this house was staged, along with the presence of the paparrazzi on that special day, contrasting with the lack of paparazzi (and fans) pictures from the previous 7 months.

[kalispera]

exactly 7 months

[BabyShine]

WhatYourHeartSays, I am a believer and not a faker, I promise!!!!! I'm trying to find out  the truth, just like you, and I would never ever make any fake statements here!! I am sure my friends and I were not the only one to know Michael was living there... The friend who met him there believes that Michael died, still Im gonna ask her if she can maybe post something here and give more details/proofs, maybe she also knows other poeple who took pictures with him in front of the gates, I dont know!! I think your theory coud have been a good point to proove everything was fake/staged, but don't you think MJ could also have rented this house secretly to prepare his hoax without anybody to know? I totally agree with you, it's very strange that only a few poeple knew about it :?

[shelby61]

If people indeed saw MJ going to Carolwood during the trials this does not mean he lived there. It is also interesting that during his trial period, his children were no where to be seen.  He may have been heading there because it was a safe place to be during the trials (perhaps) and also he would be closer to the courthouse and didn't have to make the 2 or 3 hour trip every day.  Still that does not mean he was living there, per se.  Michael had many people who he could rely on and perhaps one of his friends or business associates let him use the place.  His main place of residence at that time was Neverland.

We have to have proof that he was indeed living there, just because we see him going in doesn't mean that he lived there.

Also, I am sure the paps were on his tail all the time, so he could have been moving around alot during that time period.

[Sinderella]

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You will see the convey of SUVs leaving Neverland in this video.
He lived there everyday until the trial was over.He will have been under house arrest, tagged and had curfew.
The courts would not of allowed him to be in another residence.When on bail/tag the perimeters of the house you live in are measured to the inch so if you go over those boundaries past curfew,your doomed and go back to court/prison.The system does not allow multiple residence for obvious reasons.
He lived in Neverland until the not guilty verdict was read out,packed up and went to live in Bahrain/Ireland for the rest of 05/06
During the trial the children where at the Encino house,KJ had temp custody of them.