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Gema I want to remind you that we are talking of a man who we think is possible to have faked his death.
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"It's amazing how we are so open to believe MJ faked his death, but so reluctant to believe the mental and psychological "machinery" that could have leaded to such an extraordinary possible hoax.......I would like to ask everybody a question: do you think we made any progress in discovering the man we never knew?The man we never knew? who, Michael?I have not read any post from Michael at all.So, no, i canĀ“t consider Michael to be "the man we never knew" since we have no idea if Michael is alive on the first place.I woud like this nonsense trolling to stop, makes us look even more ridiculous.
It's amazing how we are so open to believe MJ faked his death, but so reluctant to believe the mental and psychological "machinery" that could have leaded to such an extraordinary possible hoax.......I would like to ask everybody a question: do you think we made any progress in discovering the man we never knew?
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"It's amazing how we are so open to believe MJ faked his death, but so reluctant to believe the mental and psychological "machinery" that could have leaded to such an extraordinary possible hoax.......I would like to ask everybody a question: do you think we made any progress in discovering the man we never knew?I think the more interesting question would be this:Have you learned anything about yourself?
Quote from: "Gema"Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"It's amazing how we are so open to believe MJ faked his death, but so reluctant to believe the mental and psychological "machinery" that could have leaded to such an extraordinary possible hoax.......I would like to ask everybody a question: do you think we made any progress in discovering the man we never knew?The man we never knew? who, Michael?I have not read any post from Michael at all.So, no, i canĀ“t consider Michael to be "the man we never knew" since we have no idea if Michael is alive on the first place.I woud like this nonsense trolling to stop, makes us look even more ridiculous.You feel ridiculous because you think Michael could be alive Gema?
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"What am I trying to say Sinderella? That we don't really know him after all this time. Do we know how his mind works? Do we know his character? Do we know how he is behind the closed doors? DO ANY OF YOU KNOW?Being believers doesn't make us know him better than the nonbelievers. Maybe just a little better.......but what does that have to do with locking threads and people's opinions and removing the trolls and fakers?That question has just made this thread go off topic now too.Do you know who I am?What I do?Who I know?Do you know how my mind works or my character,what i'm like away from this forum?I would say no you definitley don't and you have no right to.Same goes for Michael.Just because you are die hard life long fan,it is not written anywhere that you get to know more than you are told or are allowed to know and there is nothing you can do about it.Even if that upsets you,it is fact.
What am I trying to say Sinderella? That we don't really know him after all this time. Do we know how his mind works? Do we know his character? Do we know how he is behind the closed doors? DO ANY OF YOU KNOW?Being believers doesn't make us know him better than the nonbelievers. Maybe just a little better.
Before one of the threads was locked, I was about to post a sincere positive observation to keyboardwhizz. I know he may have been at the epicentre of this war, but he answered my question earlier with I believe honesty. I believe TS may in the future come clean about his motivations, and we won't hold anything against him, hopefully. Keyboardwizz's observation do show us something about ourselves and perhaps we were uncomfortable with that. I looked back at even some of my own posts on TIalmostI, and I take nothing back. We all enjoyed discussing things, and learning. If anything Keyboardwizz was simply a discussion starter. Simple, direct. I've always enjoyed games where it gets your brain juices flowing. Quoteby keyboardwizz Ā» Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:35 am This experience foremost showed me how clues are interpreted, sometimes I tweeted something and I would read explanations I never thought of, and those where just single words sended in cyberspace. I even was analyzed by someone and most of the meanings he/she gave to the tweets where totally off........ I even think there is a posibility that some of my "followers" still believe that I'm Michael even after my revelation, and what shocked me even more is how people confuse assumtions and facts. I firmly believe in the power of words and think a lot of "secrets "in this world can be unveiled by going back to the true origin of those words. Sadly nowadays the world is lost in translation...So it did shed a different light on T.S. , because he even took it a step further by re-directing to posts of members here by which he literally is directing the things we should look into. So I'm not calling him a fraud or anything, but his redirects are in no way a proof that Michael is alive.So his intentions or validity can only be proven after a revelation or BAM.For me personally there still isn't any solid evidence that Michael is alive, but no evidence he's dead either, so I'm totally with you : 5050I could say more and that's all for now. It appears to me like there's two sides in this forum right now. Those who want to put it all behind and go on, and those who want to dig a hole to China before they're done. I actually don't care as long as this site stays alive and going till BAM and maybe beyond because we'll have an explosion of stuff happening here, with like a million new members, and all our work will be the revered archives.
by keyboardwizz Ā» Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:35 am This experience foremost showed me how clues are interpreted, sometimes I tweeted something and I would read explanations I never thought of, and those where just single words sended in cyberspace. I even was analyzed by someone and most of the meanings he/she gave to the tweets where totally off........ I even think there is a posibility that some of my "followers" still believe that I'm Michael even after my revelation, and what shocked me even more is how people confuse assumtions and facts. I firmly believe in the power of words and think a lot of "secrets "in this world can be unveiled by going back to the true origin of those words. Sadly nowadays the world is lost in translation...So it did shed a different light on T.S. , because he even took it a step further by re-directing to posts of members here by which he literally is directing the things we should look into. So I'm not calling him a fraud or anything, but his redirects are in no way a proof that Michael is alive.So his intentions or validity can only be proven after a revelation or BAM.For me personally there still isn't any solid evidence that Michael is alive, but no evidence he's dead either, so I'm totally with you : 5050
Look you guys, I don't know why BlackJack decided to wish me happy birthday on that thread, it was a total surprise to me and I still don't know how he knew when my birthday was :? . He even posted it a day in advance :? like he couldn't wait ...And the next day he offered me a "cold shower" and left me speechless :lol: .I can't figure this out entirely by the time being.What I can see is that a lot of people feel hurt and deceived by BlackJack because he said Michael is OK and nothing more. Yet BlackJack made AMAZING previous comments about Michael and many of you spoke highly about his comments. Now I should have been mad with him, really.... for playing with me like that, one day wishing me happy birthday and the next day accusing me of terrible things, and for calling Michael a big faker, but you know what? I just can't be angry with BlackJack. I know for many of you feelings don't count too much..... for me feelings count as much as solid facts. Feelings are real, yet so undervalued. Feelings drive us and we don't even always realise it.What BlackJack did after all? I know you don't like him now, but what's wrong in telling people to rely on themselves, to be the best that they can be? To fulfill themselves without relying on aid from outside, to discover their own power..... not that Michael is not a hero, because he is.... but if we want to build an army of love, each soldier has to be strong by himself, has to be the best that he can be without taking his power from outside sources...... maybe I am taking this too far, maybe you will think I am a troll, but I woudn't be so hasty in judging BlackJack. He made valuable comments which are still there for us to read it again. His thread hoax within a hoax within a hoax revealed new strong aspects of this story and of MJ himself, aspects that we might not be ready to accept or to discuss yet.Whoever BlackJack might be, I am not mad with him and I think his points are still valid in his original posts on Hoax within a hoax within a hoax and on the re-education threads
"Hoax within a hoax within a hoax", which got locked recently, was one that I personally was very interested in, but it does seem to me that it got out of hand, with B-day wishes and little jokes...
[You are so quick to dismiss the fact you may have been fooled or lied to or lead on and are questioning others for seeing or feeling it.
Every organization rests upon a mountain of secrets
"Hoax-(Forum) Leaks": Free speech is essential for finding possible 'leaks'. Locking specific threads can be contraproductive. How can truth be found by silencing topics of interest?
Quote from: "onemoretime""Hoax-(Forum) Leaks": Free speech is essential for finding possible 'leaks'. Locking specific threads can be contraproductive. How can truth be found by silencing topics of interest?Totally agree